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2006-05-22 7:35 AM

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barfing! My daughter has a real problem with this. Whenever she races hard, she throws up. Especially in shorter races where she has to push through the whole thing. Some of you old-timers here might remember her earlier isssues with adrenalin, ie. major mood issues for the first 30 minutes or so after a race. Is there any way to help her acclimate to the adrenalin rush? She has tried to push hard enough in training to get to the point where she has that feeling in her stomach and then back off some, but so far it hasn't helped her. She still throws up during nearly every race. I'm pretty sure that this is not a good thing. And it really does bother her. Any suggestions?


2006-05-22 8:06 AM
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I had that problem in HS. Still do, stometimes. I don't throw up as much now, but it does cause me to back off tremendously. I have yet to figure out why it happens, and I've tried every pre-race ritual I could come up with to try to hold it off. Nothing ever really worked.

If you DO figure something out, let me know, too, because it really really sucks. I've lost medals because of it.
2006-05-22 9:23 AM
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She could wear a heart rate monitor and keep her heart rate at a certain level......that would definitely keep it from happening. However, if you push long enough around and above LT then it's is going to happen. I would say she needs to learn from experience and slow down a little when necessary if she doesn't want it to continue.
2006-05-22 10:26 AM
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BeCivil - 2006-05-22 10:23 AM She could wear a heart rate monitor and keep her heart rate at a certain level......that would definitely keep it from happening. However, if you push long enough around and above LT then it's is going to happen. I would say she needs to learn from experience and slow down a little when necessary if she doesn't want it to continue.

Depending on the sport on question, that may not be an option.

I get a very similar feeling when I go extreme. But instead of barfing I bowels become unfriendly for the next three days. But that is only when limits are broken.

If you find a cure, let me know.

2006-05-22 11:40 AM
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Does she take anything but a multivitamin? I quit taking anything before a race but painkillers because I had the same issue and it went away. But then again, I worked with a kid in a youth group that would puke when he got nervous. After he did, he felt fine and was ready to go. I can't tell you how many football games he played in that he puked on the field.

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2006-05-22 11:51 AM
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Does it seem to be only in races?  I'm wondering if it's more from nervousness or if there's another reason.  I can eat anything before a training session, but sometimes before a race I just can't seem to digest my normal breakfast, the same thing I have every day.  Especially milk, it doesn't want to sit right in my stomach and it feels like it's due to pre-race jitters and anticipation.  If that's the case, maybe you can do some experimentation with what she eats before a race.

 



2006-05-22 12:00 PM
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That happens to me, too. It first started when I was a swimmer in high school. I used to throw up before every meet because I was so nervous, thinking I was going to fail, etc. I never found a way to deal with it. In college, it started happening before exams, presentations, anything like that. I finally talked to my doctor, who thinks that they are basically panic attacks. I was taking medication (before school things) to make the feeling go away. Now, I'm trying relaxation techniques: slowing down my breathing, listening to music, tuning everyone out, and just trying to stay really positive before a race. I still get the nervous feeling in my stomach, but I've stopped throwing up.

I'm not saying that she's having panic attacks, but I wonder if she is feeling how I used to feel? Does she worry about doing poorly? That really contributed to the making me sick.

Oh, and to go along with what Max said, I'm really careful about what I eat before races.  I don't eat very much, never dairy.  That helps a lot, too. 



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2006-05-23 7:45 AM
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm pretty sure she has got the breakfast thing down. She has done morning swim practice in the summer since she was seven years old, so she has had to learn what to eat before practice and racing. I don't think it is anxiety either. She has never had a problem when doing longer races. We thought it might be from ingesting salt water or heat/dehydration. But we monitor her hydration really closely, so I sure it is not dehydration. She has become much better heat-acclimated and it also happens when it is cool(for South Florida) so I don't think it is the heat. It also happens after the short, fast bikes and runs sometimes, so its not salt water. I am pretty certain it is from pushing hard when sprinting. The common denominator is short distance with intense effort, 1/4 mile swim, 5-6 mile bike and 1 to 1 1/2 mile run. She is not really a sprinter, and when she has to race short and fast, her body just doesn't adjust well. Funny thing is, once she throws up she can continue to race with little or no problem. But she really wishes she could get through a short race and not throw up.
2006-05-23 8:04 AM
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I'm just thinking that maybe her genetic makeup is leaning towards the slow-twitch muscular side and that she's cut out to perhaps be a long course athlete!  Maybe her body just rebels at the short, hard efforts.  As she gets older and builds up to longer distance racing, she may find that "energizer bunny" within her that allows her to just go and go.  We could be looking at the next Natascha Badmann here.  10 years from now we can look back and say we knew her when she was just starting out on BT!

 

 

2006-05-23 8:17 AM
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You are right about her genetic make-up Max. She is built just like her father. And she made her first cut in swimming in the 200 free, at eight years old. Her last cut was in the 50 free. I guess that is why the super sprint races take so much more out of her than the longer sprint distance ones. This is the last year for her to race the shorter super sprints, so I guess she just needs to "Suck it up, Buttercup"!



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2006-05-23 9:14 AM
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Have her try some tumms before the race...some people use them during the race as well


2006-05-23 9:14 PM
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Thanks Sue, I never thought of that. I will have her try that next time she races.
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