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2012-08-03 8:13 PM
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OP - Also keep in mind the event you're training for.  If you expect it to be in the 90's and Humid, you may want to get a few sessions outdoors to make sure you hydrate correctly, understand how it will affect your run, etc. 

I am in the Southeast and travel around the country for work, so one day it could be beautiful for a morning run and others I may be in 95F/95%Humidity with poor air quality.  I prefer to run outside in the morning or in the evenings, just after a rain shower passes by is always great if you can.

The really important thing is to stay safe if you are not accustomed to running in that weather.  Hydrate and know the signs of heat injuries.

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2012-08-03 8:24 PM
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I wouldn't race indoors so why train there. That being said I have cut some runs short because of heat but try to adjust my pace accordingly to not have this happen. It's pretty much 78-100 degrees any given time of the day here and humidity is pretty high too. Only saving grace is a little afternoon seabreeze but a hot breeze isn't exactly comforting.

HTFU, get some salt sticks and a handheld, and run outside Tongue out

2012-08-03 9:04 PM
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Only if I'm well hydrated. If not, I take it inside. Sometimes I don't get in as much fluids as I need to run in this sauna like weather, so I won't risk it.
2012-08-03 9:07 PM
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depends on the day.  chose the former today.  generally I prefer to run outside, though.

 

 

2012-08-04 7:20 AM
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axteraa - 2012-08-03 1:27 PM

The correct answer is never the treadmill - regardless of the question.


True Dat! Dealing with conditions is what makes running great. (It's a love/hate thing.)
2012-08-04 9:04 AM
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If that was my borderline for going indoors, I would rarely run outside in Saigon, or race in Singapore. I'd generally go out anyway, making sure to take plenty of water and electrolyte drink, and probably run early AM or just before/after dark. If you almost always race in these conditions, then it helps to mostly train in them.  I do have a gym membership with good treadmills available, and I tell myself I can always bail if I want/need to (esp. on bricks after long rides) but in reality I never have called it on account of heat, only when I can't run outside due to heavy rain (so heavy I can't see), flooding, or lightning. I'd probably get better quality in some cases on a treadmill and am going to try to discipline myself to do it more, but for me, running outside, no matter how miserable the conditions, is still more fun than running on a treadmill!


2012-08-04 10:51 AM
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Real run. Go early or late. Lately here in FLA, time doesn't matter and I welcome a little afternoon rain shower too.
2012-08-05 9:10 AM
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mrbbrad - 2012-08-03 1:42 PM I have, and would. I'd get up early though, and go before the sun gets too high.

This summer, the humidity has been worse at 5:30am than the heat at 5:30 pm.  Its been a summer to pick your poison from a training standpoint!

2012-08-05 9:22 AM
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rjrankin83 - 2012-08-03 9:24 PM

I wouldn't race indoors so why train there. That being said I have cut some runs short because of heat but try to adjust my pace accordingly to not have this happen. It's pretty much 78-100 degrees any given time of the day here and humidity is pretty high too. Only saving grace is a little afternoon seabreeze but a hot breeze isn't exactly comforting.

HTFU, get some salt sticks and a handheld, and run outside Tongue out

 

Couldn't agree more, though that seabreeze at least keeps the air moving. Nothing worse than either a) no wind moving at all, or b) a dry/hot land breeze.

2012-08-05 10:26 AM
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Yes.  Not every race is going to be low humidity.  I like the suffering, at least a little bit.
2012-08-05 10:32 AM
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I hate running in extreme heat and humidity. For me, a Swede living in Wisconsin, that's over 90°. I'll do it because it doesn't seem to harm me, but I sure don't enjoy it as much as I enjoy running when temps are in the 70s.

I would try to do your run outdoors, being careful to listen to your body's signs of overheating.



2012-08-05 7:08 PM
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If you have a choice of times to train, it might help to experiment. I've noticed that even at the hottest/stickiest times here, there's a "sweet spot" in the morning when the night-time humidity has lessened but that sun's not too high so the heat seems more bearable. It's not as early as one might think--maybe 6-7 AM, or 6:30 to 7: 30 in winter. It's proceeded by a nasty 30-60 minute window when the pavement can literally steam while the previous day's precipitation/dew evaporates.  Evenings have higher temps but noticably lower humidity.

I'm sure it differs depending on climate or location but if you have a choice, you could experiment/ check daily weather data and find the best time for you.

2012-08-05 7:28 PM
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i only run outside.  i try to make half my runs in the AM and the other half in the heat and sun.  if the heat is getting to you slow down.  it takes time to get used to it.  don't expect to be able to go out at the same pace/duration as you would in cooler weather.  as you get acclimated you will see your heat runs speed up to what you are used. 

i tried to find a reference link that i read a while back that stated that gettin heat acclimated can increase blood volume by up to 27% since you have more flow into your capillaries to try and cool your body when training in the higher temperatures.  when you switch to cooler temps the increased blood volume allows for higher oxygen supply to your muscles, resulting in a performance boost.

 

2012-08-05 7:30 PM
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JohnP_NY - 2012-08-03 12:23 PM

would you...

Go for the run outdoors, even if the heat/humidity feels like 95+, knowing it will be a horrible showing for yourself, and you might even need to stop a few times...

or

Do the run at the Gym, crank up the treadmill to an aggressive pace, and enjoy the cool temp and the ipod?


Um, I go run outdoors 95% of the time. I live in Dallas, TX... if I didn't, I wouldn't make it outside. With it being 105+ most days, 95 would be awesome about now.

Anyways, I do run outdoors in 100-105 degree heat and humidity. I have to go slow and drink water. If I want to do speed work, then I go to the gym and get on the treadmill.

2012-08-05 8:09 PM
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southwestmba - 2012-08-03 6:52 PM Besides when it is 90 degree and 90% humidity no one else is outside to see you if you decide to stop.
That is so true, when i run at 3pm with 95 deg and 90% in full sun, I see nobody. I don't enjoy it but I think it will make you a stronger runner when it does finally cool off (at least 2 more months of it here).
2012-08-05 8:22 PM
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I don't have access to a tredmill so it is always outside for me. If I had a tredmill I wouldn't have an issue using it though.


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thebigb - 2012-08-03 12:24 PM I wish it felt like 95 outside.  I'd have to grab my stocking cap and gloves.  Suck it up buttercup and enjoy the outdoors.

 

x2; NEVER the dread mill!!  Been reefing futbol games last 3 weeks-103++.  Might get an occasional breeze (drop the temps down to 100!!)

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2012-08-05 9:17 PM
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It's YOUR workout, do what YOU feel is better training.  If the run needs to be a tempo run or faster and you feel the heat will have a negative impact on that, then treadmill it.  If it's a long run where you just to run X minutes etc. then maybe you go for it outside.

The nice thing about the treadmill is that you can keep a consistent pace.  Sometimes the workout is actually more beneficial on the 'mill.  Heat can take away from a high quality workout.

2012-08-06 12:14 AM
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My goal for 2012 is not use the treadmill at all.... I enjoy the outdoors.  Yep, I'm in Ohio and the humidity was 84% today, but I just go slower and carry water to make up for the heat and humidity.

 

 

2012-08-06 12:18 PM
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...well this thread is still alive, cool.

Yes, someone noted...hills build character. For some reason all my races involve hills, so that means almost all my training has to involve hills. And so it does. And I've alsmost learned to like it. Almost.

But not all my races involve heat and humdidity. Actually, most don't. The long races and the hard races are May, June and early October.

At this point I do prefer to get outside and run, thinking to myself that it will help me if a race is on a hot humid day. But then I ask myself, if its really so bad, do I really even need to race that day?

I wonder if hard core intersects anywhere with common sense.

I tried the hard core way. I've had blood in my urine in the past, I collapsed on the road once. Does that qualify me for putting on those big boy pants?

What got me to re-think about this?

A couple weeks ago I went out for a run in Central Park in NYC. It was in the low 90s but humidity was very high. First two miles were fine. But I quickly noticed two things, (1) not as many runners and (2) no runners that looked a day over 28 (and I am pushing 50).

At the 4 mile mark I felt tired, but could have continued. I had to ask myself, why am I doing this? If the race is on a day like this would I run it? Heck no.





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