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2012-08-04 7:23 PM

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Subject: PSAs from your friendly LBS mechanic
PSA #1: If you are bringing your bike in for service, have the decency to at least take a damp cloth to it and wipe your sweat off. Think of it this way, would you like it if I came to your work place after a hard ride and rung my jersey out all over your work space? Your bike is our work space so please wipe it off before bringing it in. Also, you shouldn't be surprised when your computer stops working after being caked in sweat since you bought it two years ago.

PSA #2: If you have not cleaned your bike since the last time you renewed your membership in the yellow sock club, please warn us so we can wear appropriate personal protective equipment (and charge you extra for the cleaning required). If you are too embarrassed to admit to being a member, you probably shouldn't be a member.

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2012-08-04 7:31 PM
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Really? I thought part of bike service (like a tune up) included cleaning my bike. Am I wrong? I need to clean it before they charge me to clean it?
2012-08-04 8:04 PM
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At my local LBS, I've routinely seen MUD-covered mountain bikes brought in for service. 

 

Do you wash your car before you bring it into the shop? 

 

2012-08-04 8:08 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-08-04 8:31 PM Really? I thought part of bike service (like a tune up) included cleaning my bike. Am I wrong? I need to clean it before they charge me to clean it?

They didn't set up shop to give  cleaning time away free.  I guess I would rather pay them to work on it than pay them to clean it. 

Never got my car back washed after getting service. 

2012-08-04 8:13 PM
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yazmaster - 2012-08-04 8:04 PM

At my local LBS, I've routinely seen MUD-covered mountain bikes brought in for service. 

 

Do you wash your car before you bring it into the shop? 

 



Mud isn't a bodily fluid. I've got no problem with mud, road grime, grease or anything else a bike picks up. It's bodily fluids I'd like to avoid. I avoid sweating all over the inside of my car and I wouldn't expect an auto mechanic to like working on my engine if I pee'd in the gas tank. I take a shower before I go to the doctors for a physical, brush my teeth prior to going to the dentist, take a shower prior to getting a hair cut, I could probably come up with many more examples.



Edited by graceful_dave 2012-08-04 8:20 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-08-04 7:31 PM

Really? I thought part of bike service (like a tune up) included cleaning my bike. Am I wrong? I need to clean it before they charge me to clean it?


We do clean bikes, after all the work is done so that any grimy finger prints are also cleaned in the process. It's ridiculous to expect us to work on your sweat soaked bike. Not to mention, you should really be wiping the sweat off after every ride. It corrodes cables, bolts and other bits and generally wreaks havoc on your bike.

Do you clean the equipment off at the gym or expect everyone who works out after you to not care?

Again, how would you feel if I came to your office and wrung my sweaty jersey out on your key board?


2012-08-04 8:38 PM
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graceful_dave - 2012-08-04 8:19 PM
lisac957 - 2012-08-04 7:31 PM Really? I thought part of bike service (like a tune up) included cleaning my bike. Am I wrong? I need to clean it before they charge me to clean it?
We do clean bikes, after all the work is done so that any grimy finger prints are also cleaned in the process. It's ridiculous to expect us to work on your sweat soaked bike. Not to mention, you should really be wiping the sweat off after every ride. It corrodes cables, bolts and other bits and generally wreaks havoc on your bike. Do you clean the equipment off at the gym or expect everyone who works out after you to not care? Again, how would you feel if I came to your office and wrung my sweaty jersey out on your key board?

Then just charge extra? If you're cleaning it ANYWAY, I don't get it. Same with dentists as mentioned above - if you eat a package of Oreos before you go in, they're still going to do their job and clean your teeth (or charge extra). It's part of what you're paying for. 

The sweaty jersey on my keyboard does not compare. Maybe if you were bringing in your keyboard for service and it had a bunch of crumbs between the keys? 

I disagree that its ridiculous to have an expectation that my bike will have residue on it. I think it kind of comes with the territory - if you work on bikes you kind of have to expect to deal with that kind of stuff, no? Is that really a surprise? Otherwise you need to be clear with customers about what you will and will not work on (or complain about). Or charge extra, problem solved.

2012-08-04 8:41 PM
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dexter - 2012-08-04 8:08 PM

lisac957 - 2012-08-04 8:31 PM Really? I thought part of bike service (like a tune up) included cleaning my bike. Am I wrong? I need to clean it before they charge me to clean it?

They didn't set up shop to give  cleaning time away free.  I guess I would rather pay them to work on it than pay them to clean it. 

Never got my car back washed after getting service. 

I guess maybe it differs between bike shops? My LBS states that, say, a tune up comes with a cleaning. Which is why this "PSA" was a surprise to me. Maybe not all bike shops offer that and it's a perk unique to mine.
 
I wouldn't expect my entire car to have been washed after I get my oil changed, but I would expect the affected areas to be cleaned up and not have oil everywhere.  



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2012-08-04 8:45 PM
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Who wears socks?
2012-08-04 8:51 PM
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Also, you might want to make sure your aero bottle is empty before the bike mechanic pics up the bike and spills water all over his shoe.....

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2012-08-04 8:51 PM
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I think you're being whiny. Sorry, but if I'm paying a service and you don't want to deal with it, either charge me extra or tell me it's unacceptable. Btw, I visit two different car dealers and they both clean my vehicles inside and out for anything I have done. No questions asked.


2012-08-04 8:57 PM
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If I owned the shop there would be a mechanic wanted sign in the window.
2012-08-04 9:00 PM
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I had the privilege of picking up a 400lb person off of a dirty bathroom floor today.  The person was covered in urine and bleeding.  I got both urine and blood on me.  Then I had the pleasure of being puked on by a drunk who decided it would be a good idea to smoke, "Mr. Happy" ( a real product).  I will gladly take a little sweat.

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2012-08-04 9:14 PM
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No one wants to swim in a pool full of pee but there okay with handing off their bike reeking of pee to be worked on interesting.

The LBS I frequent, has a notorious customer that bikes reeks of pee, they take it out back and hose it down before they will even touch it. Even for a retape, doesn't matter no one at the shop wants to be near it.

I think its bad form personally to expect someone to work on a bike that is covered in urine.

2012-08-04 9:14 PM
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No one wants to swim in a pool full of pee but there okay with handing off their bike reeking of pee to be worked on interesting.

The LBS I frequent, has a notorious customer that bikes reeks of pee, they take it out back and hose it down before they will even touch it. Even for a retape, doesn't matter no one at the shop wants to be near it.

I think its bad form personally to expect someone to work on a bike that is covered in urine.

2012-08-04 9:27 PM
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running2far - 2012-08-04 10:14 PMNo one wants to swim in a pool full of pee but there okay with handing off their bike reeking of pee to be worked on interesting. The LBS I frequent, has a notorious customer that bikes reeks of pee, they take it out back and hose it down before they will even touch it. Even for a retape, doesn't matter no one at the shop wants to be near it. I think its bad form personally to expect someone to work on a bike that is covered in urine.
I don't think the pee is the thing in question here. It is the general dirt and sweat. I think we can all agree that a peed on bike should be wiped off.


2012-08-04 10:22 PM
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As a former wrench monkey, I have to agree with the OP.  Its pretty rude to just bring your bike to them caked in crap and expect them to just deal with it.  I worked in 4 different shops over 10 years, and I absolutely HATED it when someone would bring in a bike caked in mud, or if it reeked of pee.  I wouldn't even touch that bike.  I'd tell you to take it and high tail it out of the shop, and wouldn't care if you came back or not.  That's just poor form.

Take care of your mechanics and they'll take care of you.  This goes for way more than just bikes.

2012-08-04 10:35 PM
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My son's bike needed a new rear derailleur today (he crashed).  I walked into the shop, they grabbed the bike as soon as I walked in, took a derailleur off a bike from their floor since they didn't have the one I wanted in stock, and I walked out the door 25 minutes later.

I walked next door while they worked on my bike and bought them a gift certificate that will pay for their lunch one day next week.

Our bikes stay clean, so nobody expects they should clean them....my kids are learning to wipe their bikes when they are done with their ride.....I couldn't imagine expecting someone else to do that.

I NEVER have a complaint about my LBS.....they take care of me, I take care of them.



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2012-08-04 10:46 PM
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Maybe I have not raced long enough, but dang, bikes smelling like pee?! Is that really hat much urine flowing on rides these days? No depends under garments?!
2012-08-04 10:48 PM
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As the manager of an LBS my suggestion to people is: Clean your bike.   Not for when I work on it, I have latex gloves and a hose...you'll pay a little extra, but I can clean it and it can actually be a nice break in my day.  I say clean your bike because you'll have to see me less often and your bike will need less when it comes in.

 

I've cut forks out of Cervelo's because they were corroded together with the headset bearings, we replace a front derailleur or two a month that are no longer functioning because they were left coated in sweat and gatorade (or your beverage of choice).  Rear brakes don't work because the cables are corroded from sweat.  Fixing each of these problem costs more than $20, the most expensive...well over $400, the cost to you to hose it off after a ride/every once in a while is minimal.

 

2012-08-05 4:02 AM
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I know people who" tidy up" before the house cleaner gets there.....I think its a threshold issue here ( except for urine). If its just a little sweat and dirt the lbs needs to htfu but if it is a tremendous mess than the onus should be in the owner to clean it up a little.


2012-08-05 5:33 AM
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I'd never bring any machine to a shop dirty...I feel that a mechanic will always take care of me better if they know I have more respect for my machines; cars, mowers, motorcycles, snowmobiles...bikes included.
2012-08-05 7:31 AM
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Personally, if I were working in the shop, you could bring it as is. Mud, pee, blood, bits of roadkill,whatever. Bring it on. High fives all around for the hardcore down and dirty riders who pay my rent.. I'm sure I'd have a box of surgical gloves on the shelf. I don't plan on licking the bike. I plan to fix it. Clean it,fix it right, hand it back and tell em to rock on. Hopefully while you browse the shop if it's a quick fix.Man up guys.
2012-08-05 7:37 AM
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When I bring my bike it comes with a cleaning..

 

Then again, I haven't had to take a leak on my bike though...

2012-08-05 7:38 AM
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graceful_dave - 2012-08-04 8:19 PM
Again, how would you feel if I came to your office and wrung my sweaty jersey out on your key board?

 

How is that even a good comparison??

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