Bike price points for stepping up
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2012-08-24 2:41 PM |
Regular 73 Odessa | Subject: Bike price points for stepping up Background: I'm a guitar instructor and a students shows up with his $300-$800 guitar. They want to purchase a $1k-2k guitar next, but I tell them to save more money (2500 and up) since the difference would not be worth the extra money.
So, I have an entry level Giant Defy (5 I think, cost me about $700). While I know this is a very vague and open question, what would be the next price point to consider. Goal is HIM next summer, and plan on upping my mileage soon since I am really starting to enjoy riding more. |
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2012-08-24 2:48 PM in reply to: #4379051 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up next step is a tri specific geometry frame, so that you can achieve a real aero position. Entry level tri bikes start at around $1500. Once you find a bike (THAT FITS YOU) that lets you achieve the desired position, the next "step" is going to be at around $5k+ - superbike territory... where integrated front ends and such will "buy" you a couple more seconds. It's like a mountain... a road bike is the base, a tri geometry is the meat of the climb, and a superbike is the pointy top. |
2012-08-24 3:08 PM in reply to: #4379062 |
Veteran 660 Northern Illinois | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up Leegoocrap - 2012-08-24 2:48 PM next step is a tri specific geometry frame, so that you can achieve a real aero position. Entry level tri bikes start at around $1500. Once you find a bike (THAT FITS YOU) that lets you achieve the desired position, the next "step" is going to be at around $5k+ - superbike territory... where integrated front ends and such will "buy" you a couple more seconds. It's like a mountain... a road bike is the base, a tri geometry is the meat of the climb, and a superbike is the pointy top.
Very well put.
To the OP I went from a Giant Defy 3 to a Trek Speed Concept 2.5 ($1600). Very big difference and I have been very pleased. |
2012-08-24 3:22 PM in reply to: #4379051 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up I wouldn't say that the next step up is a tri bike... it could be, but it doesn't have to be. It all depends on what you expect to use the bike for... If predominantly tri's, then yes, a tri bike will allow you to be in a more efficient position (increase aerodynamics, with compromises to comfort and efficiency, but overall speed gains are possible). If you also plan to use the bike for group rides (although some groups do allow tri bikes, others not at all), or organized rides such as centuries or charity rides (they pretty much ban tri bikes). Don't get stuck on certain brands or models... start with a bike fit and then buy the best bike that fits YOU and works with your budget. In general, components like Shimano 105 or better, SRAM Apex or better and Campagnolo Centaur and better are all race worthy. Once you're above the second lowest price point, you start to get lighter frames, lighter components, better wheels, etc. but they are all functional. Here's kind of a vague price point for road bikes... Sub-$1000 Below $2500 Below $4500 Below $6000 Above $6000 For tri bikes, it's slightly different.... Below $1500 Below $3000 Below $5000 Below $8000 Above $8000 Edited by audiojan 2012-08-24 3:25 PM |
2012-08-24 3:29 PM in reply to: #4379051 |
Expert 1224 Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up Good question OP'er. I have about 1800 into my steel road bike that I love and will never get rid of. But I want to step into the world of a tri bike. I think I can get my ave mph on an Oly into the 23 - 24 range on a tri bike rather than at 20.5-21 on my roadie. However, I love RAGBRAI, group rides, centuries, etc so the road bike will remain in my life. I'm thinking 3,500 for my tri with some additional upgrades. |
2012-08-24 3:42 PM in reply to: #4379144 |
Member 91 Baltimore, MD | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up siouxcityhawk - 2012-08-24 3:29 PM I'm thinking 3,500 for my tri with some additional upgrades. I've have a few bikes that cost 4 figures, but if I ever spend $3500 on something with 2 wheels, it better have an internal combustion engine! |
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2012-08-24 3:47 PM in reply to: #4379177 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up schaumi - 2012-08-24 1:42 PM siouxcityhawk - 2012-08-24 3:29 PM I'm thinking 3,500 for my tri with some additional upgrades. I've have a few bikes that cost 4 figures, but if I ever spend $3500 on something with 2 wheels, it better have an internal combustion engine! I paid WAY less for my motorcycle than I did for my TT bike. Granted, the motorcycle was used and the TT bike was new. |
2012-08-24 3:48 PM in reply to: #4379144 |
Member 325 Groningen, Netherlands | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up siouxcityhawk - 2012-08-24 9:29 PM Good question OP'er. I have about 1800 into my steel road bike that I love and will never get rid of. But I want to step into the world of a tri bike. I think I can get my ave mph on an Oly into the 23 - 24 range on a tri bike rather than at 20.5-21 on my roadie. However, I love RAGBRAI, group rides, centuries, etc so the road bike will remain in my life. I'm thinking 3,500 for my tri with some additional upgrades. Wowzers thats a big speedbump |
2012-08-24 5:42 PM in reply to: #4379051 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up I wrote some typically protracted, verbose, demerly-esque diatribe on price point once with charts and graphs. Here it is: http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/store/howmuch.shtml And the summary if you don't want to read 5,000 words about bike pricing: |
2012-08-25 10:16 AM in reply to: #4379051 |
Regular 73 Odessa | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up Thanks for the input. While I know I don't get all out of my bike that I can, seeing all these sexy bike pics definitely makes me want to start saving up. Just need to get a bike fit. I'm thinking I'll go with a tri-bike specific next, and use my current bike for any group rides (although been a year since I rode with anyone). |
2012-08-25 10:55 AM in reply to: #4379354 |
376 | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up Tom Demerly. - 2012-08-24 5:42 PM
And the summary if you don't want to read 5,000 words about bike pricing:
I love this chart! Probably because it's exactly how I approached bike shopping. It can apply to so many different things (adjusting the numbers of course). When shopping for my bike, I found this to be relatively accurate, but my breakover price was $2500. Unfortunately that was about $1000 over my budget. I ended up finding a used bike, just a year old, that fell below my budget. New it was $2200 so it was close to the breakover. |
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2012-08-25 11:29 AM in reply to: #4379354 |
New user 147 Overland Park, KS | Subject: RE: Bike price points for stepping up Tom Demerly. - 2012-08-24 5:42 PM I wrote some typically protracted, verbose, demerly-esque diatribe on price point once with charts and graphs. Here it is: http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/store/howmuch.shtml And the summary if you don't want to read 5,000 words about bike pricing: An excellent graphic. Let me add, from my experience, what the bikes in the peak value area will look like:
This is a great platform, you can spend a lot more money to save several 10's of grams, if you weighed the cash vs the weight savings of going to a $5k+ bike I'm pretty sure the stack of cash would be heavier. This also leaves you plenty of opportunity to spend more in the future in the form of trick wheels, power meter, etc. |