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2013-01-25 7:20 AM

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Please feel free to tell me I'm over reacting to this but it really bothered me.

At the pool this morning I was the only one there when it opened.  By time I finished my first 100 all lanes were taken by females (yes, that's important to note).  Finish my w/u set and 900 yards into my m/s (so I've been there a little while at this point) I'm returning back to where everyone jumps in and 10 yards from the edge this person swims under me going the other way!  I finish the 25 stand up and look.  Sure enough there was a guy that jumped into my lane and swam under me!

Start swimming again and get to the other end of the pool and he's just hanging onto the side.  I stop and look at him and this was our conversation.

him: "good morning"
me: "look buddy you have tell someone you are joining their lane, you can't just swim under someone like that"

He turns and looks away from me, so I swim away and continue my workout.  He was in the lane for maybe 200 yards and left.

I realize he joined my lane being another guy, I get that, no problem there.  But to not let me know and to just swim under me?  Can't dangle your feet at the end of the pool for another 5 seconds?

This guy is at the pool all the time so it's not the first time I've seen him and it surely won't be the last.



2013-01-25 7:27 AM
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over reacting. he just swam under you.  i'd hate to accidentally swim over you in a race.
2013-01-25 7:28 AM
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Strange. This happened to me last night with a slight variation. A guy caught my attention and asked if we could split the lane. I said sure, but continued with my workout quickly as I was right in the middle of a set. I'm sure he said "split" so I stayed on one side. I do open turns, so I saw he was just starting out from the other end as I headed back to the end of the pool where he caught my attention. About halfway through, there he was underneath me. I thought it was strange.

I caught his attention after another lap and verified that we were splitting and not circling. I think that's all it really was.

But no ... not an over-reaction on your part. I think you were good to say something. 
2013-01-25 7:29 AM
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Clempson - 2013-01-25 8:27 AM over reacting. he just swam under you.  i'd hate to accidentally swim over you in a race.

A race is a different story in my book.  You're expecting bodies everywhere.  On you, over you, under you, pulling you.  

2013-01-25 7:33 AM
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I'd say that is certainly weird and I'm sure I would've made some type of comment myself, but maybe that was just his way of letting you know he was joining your lane.... not the way I would do it, but I guess not the worst thing in the world either.
2013-01-25 7:38 AM
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I agree OP.  That was not cool on his part.  If this were the outdoor recreational pool everyone goes to in the summer than ok but not for the lap pool.  I've had it happen to me but they just decided that they were swimming to the ladder to get out and didn't even try to go under and I almost collided with them.  Screwed up my whole workout after that.


2013-01-25 7:39 AM
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The only time I ever swim under someone is if we are already splitting the lane and they're hovering over the center of the line instead of off to the side like we agreed. Minor inconvenience but I've never had any problems with another swimmer (I've also got a lot of room with no danger of hitting the other person or being hit).

Or if I know the person personally. Then its just for fun. But as you can tell from my perspective its not that big of a deal, there isn't really much danger there especially to the person on top. Disconcerting maybe but not much more than that.

2013-01-25 7:41 AM
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Overreacting.. what's the big deal? He joined your lane, you saw it and nothing happened.

I circle swim even when alone for that very reason, people can just join, no need to ask or tell or interrupt my workout. In the rest time I check if new people are on the deck who might want to get into my lane, and when I swim I always stay alert to new blobs in the water.

So he swam under you? If you were going back when he was going out, it could just be the normal pull out in breast stroke. If he tried to pass you by going under that's risky, he can't see if he's passed completely.

2013-01-25 7:44 AM
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cornick - 2013-01-25 7:20 AM

I realize he joined my lane being another guy, I get that, no problem there.



Huh. I never think about whether it's a man or woman in the lane when I ask if I can share the lane. Normally I just look for someone who is swimming freestyle at a consistent pace and is swimming in a straight line.

But to your original question, I don't think you overreacted. I don't like surprises like that when I am swimming laps. Just common courtesty to make sure the person you are going to share with knows you are going to be sharing the lane.
2013-01-25 7:44 AM
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The way I read it, no, not an overreaction....dont think what you said to him was out of line.  If you got really obnoxious then maybe I would have felt differently.

Similiar things happen to me and I have posted them here before.  I just think that in a pool the common courtesy is to wait till the person comes to the wall and either ask to join the lane or stand in the lane off to one side.....all the new swimmer has to do is wait up to a minute to accomplish this.....too many times I am swimming on the line and if I am doing what I am supposed to be doing by keeping my head down there is a high risk of a collision.

 

2013-01-25 7:48 AM
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Maybe he did that to make you see him?  Sometimes at my pool some of the lap swimmers completely ignore the dangling feet in the water so I usually just get in and swim.  I have even had people tell me its their lane and they were there 1st.  I usually reply go ask the life guard if its just your lane exclusively. 

Anyway its not that big of deal.  If it had been me I would have said something along the lines of man you startled me there by going under me.  Do you want the right or left side of the lane?



2013-01-25 7:48 AM
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get over it

with the title I thought someone drowned

2013-01-25 8:18 AM
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I would also have been bothered. The last thing you want to do is crack heads because you didn't know there was someone else in your lane. I would have been very startled to find someone underneath me!

I think you handled it well. You didn't curse him out or anything, just told him to let you know he was there. I'd keep an eye out for him next time, though.

2013-01-25 8:25 AM
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"Look Buddy...." is a bit aggressive for me. If it was really a bother, a more cooperative approach may have shed more light on the situation, or even opened a dialogue that would have led to a more social interaction. Being friendly when annoyed has never gotten me into trouble, and isn't so bad for my blood pressure either :-) Hakuna Matata!
2013-01-25 8:28 AM
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It probably would irritate me somewhat, but "no harm, no foul." It will be interesting to see if he does it again. I am not a seasoned swimmer, so i welcome the traffic as to, st least, get more used to swimming around others.
2013-01-25 8:29 AM
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Major overreation. Circle swim, pools can handle more than 1-2 per lane. Go watch warm up at a big swim meet and get your eyes opened.


2013-01-25 8:35 AM
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TriToy - 2013-01-25 6:48 AM

get over it

with the title I thought someone drowned



agreed. maybe swimming under was his way of letting you know
2013-01-25 8:35 AM
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mad-dog - 2013-01-25 8:28 AMIt probably would irritate me somewhat, but "no harm, no foul." It will be interesting to see if he does it again. I am not a seasoned swimmer, so i welcome the traffic as to, st least, get more used to swimming around others.
^^^ exactly most triathletes are pampered in the pool and are oblvious to the reality that swimmers will sometimes train 8-10 per lane in a short course pool.
2013-01-25 8:38 AM
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cornick - 2013-01-26 1:20 AM

Please feel free to tell me I'm over reacting to this but it really bothered me.

At the pool this morning I was the only one there when it opened.  By time I finished my first 100 all lanes were taken by females (yes, that's important to note).  Finish my w/u set and 900 yards into my m/s (so I've been there a little while at this point) I'm returning back to where everyone jumps in and 10 yards from the edge this person swims under me going the other way!  I finish the 25 stand up and look.  Sure enough there was a guy that jumped into my lane and swam under me!

Start swimming again and get to the other end of the pool and he's just hanging onto the side.  I stop and look at him and this was our conversation.

him: "good morning"
me: "look buddy you have tell someone you are joining their lane, you can't just swim under someone like that"

He turns and looks away from me, so I swim away and continue my workout.  He was in the lane for maybe 200 yards and left.

I realize he joined my lane being another guy, I get that, no problem there.  But to not let me know and to just swim under me?  Can't dangle your feet at the end of the pool for another 5 seconds?

This guy is at the pool all the time so it's not the first time I've seen him and it surely won't be the last.

Surely he was swimming under you to avoid a collision??  Whether you knew he was coming in or not the guy has chosen a good distance (10 yards) from the wall to "pass" you where there will be plenty of space and lessen the risk of injury.  Sure you were surprised but it hasn't affected your workout and it was done safely IMO. 

You dealt with it like a champ though!!

Why would you both being guys matter?? 



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2013-01-25 8:39 AM
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Looking back I think it was more of an irritation than anything else added with being startled can get under your skin.

This is a 6 lane pool and usually one one lane is doubled up...so yes, I'm used to having my own lane but I could care less about sharing as I've done it at bigger pools.  It was more of the way he notified me, I think.

And drowning? Seriously? you got that from the title of the post? I'm sure if someone drowned it would say something like "person drowned at the pool this morning"...smh.

2013-01-25 8:42 AM
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danrayner - 2013-01-25 9:38 AM 

Why would you both being guys matter?? 

In my VERY limited experience (3 years) of swimming in a pool I've found that most females will partner up with other females and males will partner up with other males.  Just my observation...that's all.  Nothing more.

At least that's what happens at the pool I'm at.  Might be totally different around the rest of the world and my school is just jacked up.



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Don't get me wrong, this is more than likely the case everywhere.  You ever find 2 women in the fast lane at my pool but that is purely speed based.  All the "casual" swimmers stick together in the slow lane.
2013-01-25 8:51 AM
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Overreacting.....you need to swim with these kids and then you'll have it figured out.

 





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2013-01-25 9:04 AM
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Left Brain - 2013-01-25 9:51 AM

Overreacting.....you need to swim with these kids and then you'll have it figured out.

 

OMG! I would just buy an endless pool lol!

2013-01-25 9:22 AM
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Think about the offending guy's mindset and you know he's in the wrong- Hey, this other guy is swimming right in this lane, I'll jump in and announce me presence by doing a dolphin move UNDER him, just as a friendly hi! What was he thinking? Like you said OP, another 5 seconds and a head nod or word to confirm two things: I'm joining you and i'll stay on this side and you on that side as long as we're just 2.  You were not out of line to discuss in a mature/polite way.
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