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2006-07-03 10:10 AM

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'morning all...... since i'm at work today (one of a small handful who showed up today...) and have no motivation whatsoever to work... thought i'd throw a general question out there about what a respectable time would be for a first sprint triathlon? i have my first one (getting pretty ecxited!) on july 30 in philadelphia. it's a 1/2 mi swim, 17 mi bike and 4 mi run. the bike and run are both supposedly real flat.

i live about 1 hr NW of phila, and ther eis nothing flat near me... but i have found a rolling 17 mi area (out/back) to put in TT efforts. so........ that being said, i am guessing, based on my workouts, that my times/speed will be something like this:

swim: 17:00-18:00
bike: 23-24 mph (44:34-42:50)
run: 8:30-9:00 pace (34:00-36:00)

i have no idea how slow i'll be at T1 and T2, (2 min or so at each?) as i haven't practiced them enough yet. but... i'm guessing my time will be somewhere around 1:37:50 - 1:42:34. that's just going my my workout times... so i may actually explode somewhere in there, and end up much slower. i'll let ya all know in 27 days! first race as a clydesdale... wooo-hoooo!!!!!!!!!

anyway... jsut trying to start some conversation to make my day more tolerable! hope most of you guyys are off today!


2006-07-03 10:17 AM
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Subject: RE: respectable time for 1st sprint tri?
Since all courses are different, there's no one time that's good or bad. The best thing to do is probably check these against last year's results and see where you would have fallen with those times. Understand that weather conditions and who shows up to the race are going to make this a "best guess" scenario.

I will say that if you ride that fast on the bike, you'll probably place nicely in the bike leg.
2006-07-03 10:21 AM
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Subject: RE: respectable time for 1st sprint tri?

In my book, if you finish a "first" triathlon, that's a respectable time in itself.  There's a lot of unknowns to something you never done before that may come up unexpected.  For my first tri, I paniced in the water and doggied paddled the whole swim 400m in 40 minutes (don't laugh )

I think it all depends on what your goals are.  You should look at the results from previous years and see where you think you will place.  Go for that goal during the race and try to beat it.

2006-07-03 10:22 AM
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I would guess respectable would be whatever YOU feel it to be. You know your fitness level best, you know your training best, you know your overall level of preparedness best.

I think that's my biggest problem. Comparing my results to others. I look at other times from races, and I think, "D***it, why wasn't I faster?" I know I'm not going to be an overall winner at these events, but still. Ultimately, you have to decide what your personal goals are, both short- and long-term, and try to achieve those. Don't fall into the trap of letting others dictate what is a "good" time.
2006-07-03 10:26 AM
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yeah, given all the variables anything can happen. assuming my times are fairly accurate, i would have been somewhere between 5th-9th in clydesdale. i'd be super happy with that for a first race! that'd just be icing on the cake. i come from years of cycling and bike racing... so my swimand run times are pretty unimpressive. my TT efforts are in the 21-24 mph speed on rolling roads, so on flats should be towards the upper end of that. that's assuming there is no trouble passing people... i don't know how these work... much different than road races since you can't draft. are there like 2-3 lanes of riders then?.. slow on the right, passers to the left of that, and so on? i hope it's not super crowded on the roads.
2006-07-03 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: respectable time for 1st sprint tri?
If you can average 23-24mph on the bike, you'll be in the top 5-10% of participants for that leg. just be aware that "average" is not the same as "ride most of the time." To average 24mph, you probably have to spend a lot of time in the 26-27mph range, depending on the course.


2006-07-03 11:17 AM
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Seriously to do your first tri, have fun doing it and finish with a smile is a great goal for a first tri.

What you do each segment can very a lot in training compared to a triathlon. OWS is often what people under estimate how the chaos of mass start will effect them...many first timers and even those doing tris for a 2nd and 3rd time can feel panicky which can effect your bike/run. Read some first timer race reports. Have you been practicing bike/run bricks? If not, do them each week until your first tri. It is amazing how your legs feel running after riding, more you practice the easier it gets. It takes me almost exactly 8 minutes to have my running legs back when I start running after riding.

I'd encourage you to take it easy the last few days before your first tri. Often in panic a new person will make the mistake to push themselves or prove they can do this or that which brings you to the starting line fatigued and not in the best position to do your best.

I would discourage you from putting in a time goal and focus on having fun, doing your best and finishing. All that is most important.

2006-07-03 11:18 AM
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yeah... it's the one discipline i'm good at (from living with a cat 2 guy and racing a lot)... hopefully it will make up for the other two, which i'm pretty terrible at! it's funny... i know nothing about the tri stuff... but when i read the threads people start related to "what's this roadie talking about..." i guess i'm that guy... well, not the obnoxious guy who bashes on everyone, which i just read in a thread this am... but i am much more comfortable in the bike lingo than the tri stuff.... i have a lot to learn.

but as far as my bike speed... i'm pretty confident i'll be 23+ on the bike leg, only b/c i know the roads in that area and my TT efforts here in the rolling terrain are 21-24 pace (53/16-17 for most of ride).



2006-07-03 11:22 AM
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Yeah, well ditto, even more so, what Kathy said about bricks, practice running off the bike, especially if you're still riding road geometry. Tri geometry takes it easier on the running muscles, makes transition much easier. Regardless, though, even off the road bike it does get easier with practice.
2006-07-03 11:36 AM
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Subject: RE: respectable time for 1st sprint tri?

Funny... I guess I'm the guy who will stand there and blink when you say "53/16-17"....

I too try to gauge my expectations off of a combination of my training pace and what people have done on the same course previously. Another way to look at it (in terms of a goal) would be to have a "target effort" for each event. You can have a constant real-time feel for that during the race, and you won't be pushing beyond the plan to make some time you have in your head. You could go by heart rate zone, speed, or watts. 

2006-07-03 11:38 AM
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yeah, i shouldn't get ahead of myself with time stuff, i guess. i'm just trying to pass the time with something more interesting than work right now. hehe. one thing i plan to do is take my time in the transition area so i get a feel for that process.

i've done a few bricks... need to do a few more in the coming weeks. definitely makes the legs extremely wobbly! takes me about 3/4 mile to get running legs after a hard ride!

are any of you guys doing the enviro sports tri in philly on the 30th of july? i don't know any tri folk, and thought itd be cool to meet a few!


2006-07-03 12:25 PM
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You should add the race to your list of races (okay it would be your first) save it as a draft and you'll see which other BTers are signed up to do it as well. You can even post a thread which would show up on your State training board, and have some talk with others doing the same tri. All this would get to through your training blog which it looks like you aren't using.

It really is a cool feature about BT! Now when I race, I know who else is doing the race and try to meet up with them...makes racing 10x more fun! It always helps to have someone to hang out before the race to keep pre-jitters away.  The best thing is you'll meet some incredible traithletes who in time will become friends!

2006-07-03 12:30 PM
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thanks! i guess i never looked into any of the other features on the site... i just liek reading to learn about things. i'll check some of this out and try and set that stuff up! thanks again!
2006-07-03 3:28 PM
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respectable time for 1st sprint tri?


Well, take your expected lifespan in years, and divide it in half. Anything before or after that midway point would be a respectable time to race your first triathlon. Just make sure to do it before you get to the end of your lifetime.

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