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2013-03-21 9:48 AM

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Subject: Pop Quiz - Why we (the US) are to blame for 9/11

Absolutely Out-freaking-rageous!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/21/texas-mother-reportedly-angry-over-11-quiz-claims-blamed-us-for-attacks/?test=latestnews



2013-03-21 10:00 AM
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Sous - 2013-03-21 9:48 AM

Absolutely Out-freaking-rageous!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/21/texas-mother-reportedly-angry-over-11-quiz-claims-blamed-us-for-attacks/?test=latestnews

Meh.  There are idiots on every side of every issue. 

Hell, there are folks in the TX school board that want to change the history curriculum to push Thomas Jefferson into the background and introduce the "significant contributions" of Confederate leaders during the Civil War. 

 

2013-03-21 10:07 AM
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“Decisions we made in the United States have had negative effects on people elsewhere.”

Sounds like an accurate statement to me...

2013-03-21 10:28 AM
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I dont see this as outrageous. Perhaps the company could rephrase the question, though.

Maybe I'm just overly curious but I would like to know WHY they hate us so much. What caused so much hate in their hearts that they felt the need to kill several thousand people? These are questions we should be asking, not avoiding. As the old saying goes, ``If you know your enemy and know yourself, you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.''

And the mom in the story is such a drama queen when she says: ``When I teach my children that you have to work hard and you have to earn a living and they go to school and learn something different, I absolutely take issue with that.'' I don't think asking that question, regardless of how offensive you think it is, gives your kids the impression that they shouldn't work hard. Where did that even come from?



2013-03-21 10:30 AM
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Sands told KRISTV.com that she was most dismayed by a question that asked why the U.S. may be a target for terrorism. Her son chose the correct answer to the test that covered material from a video students watched in class: “Decisions we made in the United States have had negative effects on people elsewhere.”

"I'm not going to justify radical terrorists by saying we did anything to deserve that; over 3,000 people died," Sands told the station.

There is a big leap from discussing potential motives and acknowledging those motives justified terrorism.  A question about why Timothy McVeigh targeted a federal building does not equate to an acknowledgement that the victims deserved it.

2013-03-21 10:33 AM
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mr2tony - 2013-03-21 10:28 AM I dont see this as outrageous. Perhaps the company could rephrase the question, though. Maybe I'm just overly curious but I would like to know WHY they hate us so much. What caused so much hate in their hearts that they felt the need to kill several thousand people? These are questions we should be asking, not avoiding. As the old saying goes, ``If you know your enemy and know yourself, you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.'' And the mom in the story is such a drama queen when she says: ``When I teach my children that you have to work hard and you have to earn a living and they go to school and learn something different, I absolutely take issue with that.'' I don't think asking that question, regardless of how offensive you think it is, gives your kids the impression that they shouldn't work hard. Where did that even come from?

I thought the same thing and had to re-read it twice....it looks like the woman has other issues with the school that the article really didn't expound on other than to say she was going to a meeting to discuss it.....I think.  That article gave me a headache.



2013-03-21 10:34 AM
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What exactly is outrageous?

A.  Her reaction

B.  Phrasing of the Exam

C. Both A and B

D.  None of the above.

 

I thought it a little odd for a remembering 911 "quiz" in general.  Talk about it, reflect.  But quiz?

Maybe they should implement that at funerals

 

Grandma's (the decedent) first job was:

A. Candy Striper

B. Self imployed in red light district

C. Both A and B

D. None of the above.

2013-03-21 10:36 AM
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mrbbrad - 2013-03-21 10:07 AM

“Decisions we made in the United States have had negative effects on people elsewhere.”

Sounds like an accurate statement to me...



X2. The only thing “outrageous” here is the mothers over-the-top level of outrage.
2013-03-21 10:38 AM
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Kido - 2013-03-21 10:34 AM

 

I thought it a little odd for a remembering 911 "quiz" in general.  Talk about it, reflect.  But quiz?

 

I thought that as well until I realized that these fifth graders weren't alive when it happened.  It was probably part of a history lesson.

2013-03-21 10:42 AM
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sesh - 2013-03-21 8:38 AM
Kido - 2013-03-21 10:34 AM

 

I thought it a little odd for a remembering 911 "quiz" in general.  Talk about it, reflect.  But quiz?

 

I thought that as well until I realized that these fifth graders weren't alive when it happened.  It was probably part of a history lesson.

good point.  explains the reason they had the name of the rescue dog leading off the quiz...  Sort of trivial to me.

I guess we were quizzed about the Holocaust in HS.

Man, I'm getting old.  Now get off my lawn. 

2013-03-21 10:43 AM
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There are two ways to view America. 

One is through the political rhetoric, disgraceful foreign policy and their PIA approach to being the World Police.  No-one likes America when looking through that lens.

The other way is meeting the people, immersing yourself in the communities, talking to them wherever you find them, working with them, getting drunk with them, meeting their families and going to to their sporting events, enjoying their hospitality, admiring their patriotism and watching them pay for a soldiers coffee in a starbucks.  Viewed through that lens, no-one can help but love the place.

Most of the world doesn't get the opportunity to travel so only gets to view you through lens one.  Which is a shame.

But what do I care, I'm from England, everyone hates us.  And with good reason, we've done some proper wicked stuff over the centuries but I can't help feeling a little proud that this little nation achieved near global domination once.

So I wish your lot luck with it, at least it'll take the heat of us for a while in the history books.....



2013-03-21 10:54 AM
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2013-03-21 10:58 AM
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Kido - 2013-03-21 11:42 AM
sesh - 2013-03-21 8:38 AM
Kido - 2013-03-21 10:34 AM

 

I thought it a little odd for a remembering 911 "quiz" in general.  Talk about it, reflect.  But quiz?

 

I thought that as well until I realized that these fifth graders weren't alive when it happened.  It was probably part of a history lesson.

good point.  explains the reason they had the name of the rescue dog leading off the quiz...  Sort of trivial to me.

I guess we were quizzed about the Holocaust in HS.

Man, I'm getting old.  Now get off my lawn. 

The quiz was directly related to a video the kids watched.

2013-03-21 11:04 AM
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I have a quiz.

What is a Flour Bluff?

2013-03-21 11:18 AM
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We're Americans,there can't possibly be consequences for our actions! That would suggest personal responsibility or some other freakish concept.

Absolutely nothing wrong with the quiz. Woman is an idiot.
2013-03-21 11:19 AM
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JoshR - 2013-03-21 11:04 AM

I have a quiz.

What is a Flour Bluff?

When you try to trick people into eating gluten free.



2013-03-21 11:33 AM
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The mom went overboard. The test question was stupid. 

2013-03-21 11:37 AM
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The woman might not be the best spokesperson... that's for sure, but here is my issue.

Anyway you look at it, the question and supposed "correct" answer gives the impression that the act was somehow right and justified... especially when your audience is a bunch of 5th graders.

Look at it this way:

Q: Why do you think the woman was targeted to be raped?

A: Because she was dressed very scantily.

CORRECT!

The only correct answer is because the rapist was a psychopath... same goes for the 9/11 question.



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2013-03-21 11:44 AM
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Dan-L - 2013-03-21 8:43 AM

There are two ways to view America. 

One is through the political rhetoric, disgraceful foreign policy and their PIA approach to being the World Police.  No-one likes America when looking through that lens.

The other way is meeting the people, immersing yourself in the communities, talking to them wherever you find them, working with them, getting drunk with them, meeting their families and going to to their sporting events, enjoying their hospitality, admiring their patriotism and watching them pay for a soldiers coffee in a starbucks.  Viewed through that lens, no-one can help but love the place.

Most of the world doesn't get the opportunity to travel so only gets to view you through lens one.  Which is a shame.

But what do I care, I'm from England, everyone hates us.  And with good reason, we've done some proper wicked stuff over the centuries but I can't help feeling a little proud that this little nation achieved near global domination once.

So I wish your lot luck with it, at least it'll take the heat of us for a while in the history books.....

I don't.  You made soccer popular across the entire world, so you're good in my book

2013-03-21 11:48 AM
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spudone - 2013-03-21 12:44 PM
Dan-L - 2013-03-21 8:43 AM

There are two ways to view America. 

One is through the political rhetoric, disgraceful foreign policy and their PIA approach to being the World Police.  No-one likes America when looking through that lens.

The other way is meeting the people, immersing yourself in the communities, talking to them wherever you find them, working with them, getting drunk with them, meeting their families and going to to their sporting events, enjoying their hospitality, admiring their patriotism and watching them pay for a soldiers coffee in a starbucks.  Viewed through that lens, no-one can help but love the place.

Most of the world doesn't get the opportunity to travel so only gets to view you through lens one.  Which is a shame.

But what do I care, I'm from England, everyone hates us.  And with good reason, we've done some proper wicked stuff over the centuries but I can't help feeling a little proud that this little nation achieved near global domination once.

So I wish your lot luck with it, at least it'll take the heat of us for a while in the history books.....

I don't.  You made soccer popular across the entire world, so you're good in my book

I like England, I used to really crush on Hugh Grant. Then I found out he was kind of a douche... It was a real disappointment. I also really love the movie "Pride and Prejudice". Awesome. 

Faulty Towers? Epic.

I met some Brits while traveling once and they kinda tried to rip me a new one on American policies though...



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2013-03-21 11:52 AM
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spudone - 2013-03-21 9:44 AM
Dan-L - 2013-03-21 8:43 AM

There are two ways to view America. 

One is through the political rhetoric, disgraceful foreign policy and their PIA approach to being the World Police.  No-one likes America when looking through that lens.

The other way is meeting the people, immersing yourself in the communities, talking to them wherever you find them, working with them, getting drunk with them, meeting their families and going to to their sporting events, enjoying their hospitality, admiring their patriotism and watching them pay for a soldiers coffee in a starbucks.  Viewed through that lens, no-one can help but love the place.

Most of the world doesn't get the opportunity to travel so only gets to view you through lens one.  Which is a shame.

But what do I care, I'm from England, everyone hates us.  And with good reason, we've done some proper wicked stuff over the centuries but I can't help feeling a little proud that this little nation achieved near global domination once.

So I wish your lot luck with it, at least it'll take the heat of us for a while in the history books.....

I don't.  You made soccer popular across the entire world, so you're good in my book

Love England and Brits.  My best riding mates are Brits.  Been there several times.

Now, if I could complete a comment card, customer service at a majority of restaurants?  I give them a 1 out of 5.

Finding someone to drink with at a pub?  5 out of 5.



2013-03-21 11:57 AM
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Sous - 2013-03-21 12:37 PM

The woman might not be the best spokesperson... that's for sure, but here is my issue.

Anyway you look at it, the question and supposed "correct" answer gives the impression that the act was somehow right and justified... especially when your audience is a bunch of 5th graders.

Not the way I look at it.  A possible cause does not in anyway suggest "right and justified." Did you see the actual question, and the other answers? I did but, did not see the video., Apparently in context this was the most correct answer to a "what might be a reason" question. It would be irresponsible to ignore the impact our actions have on the rest of the world. Oh, wait...... 

2013-03-21 12:09 PM
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Dan-L - 2013-03-21 11:43 AM

There are two ways to view America. 

One is through the political rhetoric, disgraceful foreign policy and their PIA approach to being the World Police.  No-one likes America when looking through that lens.

The other way is meeting the people, immersing yourself in the communities, talking to them wherever you find them, working with them, getting drunk with them, meeting their families and going to to their sporting events, enjoying their hospitality, admiring their patriotism and watching them pay for a soldiers coffee in a starbucks.  Viewed through that lens, no-one can help but love the place.

Most of the world doesn't get the opportunity to travel so only gets to view you through lens one.  Which is a shame.

But what do I care, I'm from England, everyone hates us.  And with good reason, we've done some proper wicked stuff over the centuries but I can't help feeling a little proud that this little nation achieved near global domination once.

So I wish your lot luck with it, at least it'll take the heat of us for a while in the history books.....

I like England. Used to go to Cambridge every month on business. Some of my 'mates' introduced me to Old Peculiar on my birthday. I believe the US equivalent is Colt 45 malt liquor. I was still drunk when I got on the plane the next day.

2013-03-21 12:09 PM
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mrbbrad - 2013-03-21 12:57 PM
Sous - 2013-03-21 12:37 PM

The woman might not be the best spokesperson... that's for sure, but here is my issue.

Anyway you look at it, the question and supposed "correct" answer gives the impression that the act was somehow right and justified... especially when your audience is a bunch of 5th graders.

Not the way I look at it.  A possible cause does not in anyway suggest "right and justified." Did you see the actual question, and the other answers? I did but, did not see the video., Apparently in context this was the most correct answer to a "what might be a reason" question. It would be irresponsible to ignore the impact our actions have on the rest of the world. Oh, wait...... 

You're missing the point.  Look at this though the eyes of a 5th grader.  We are not talking about a graduate program political science  debate here, we are talking about a class full of 10 year olds.  I don't think that a 10 year old has any idea of the political actions of the United States or their ramifications.  

2013-03-21 12:47 PM
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Sous - 2013-03-21 1:09 PM
mrbbrad - 2013-03-21 12:57 PM
Sous - 2013-03-21 12:37 PM

The woman might not be the best spokesperson... that's for sure, but here is my issue.

Anyway you look at it, the question and supposed "correct" answer gives the impression that the act was somehow right and justified... especially when your audience is a bunch of 5th graders.

Not the way I look at it.  A possible cause does not in anyway suggest "right and justified." Did you see the actual question, and the other answers? I did but, did not see the video., Apparently in context this was the most correct answer to a "what might be a reason" question. It would be irresponsible to ignore the impact our actions have on the rest of the world. Oh, wait...... 

You're missing the point.  Look at this though the eyes of a 5th grader.  We are not talking about a graduate program political science  debate here, we are talking about a class full of 10 year olds.  I don't think that a 10 year old has any idea of the political actions of the United States or their ramifications.  

That's sort of the point; getting them to think about ramifications.

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