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2013-04-09 2:39 AM

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2013-04-09 4:28 AM
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Every single one of those MSNBC "Lean Forward" commercials is a borderline socialist/communist advertisement.  And I'm not exaggerating for effect.

There's one with Chris Matthews or Lawrence O'Donnell (don't recall which) that comes out and says that the only way we'll survive is for government to take care of us (almost verbatim)

People make fun of Fox News for being biased.  They are NO WHERE NEAR as biased as MSNBC. Hell some of their commercials even blame the GOP outright.  So much for "news"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPklYj7gYLo

Of course they were directed by Spike Lee, doesn't that explain a lot...

2013-04-09 7:09 AM
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Wow!  just WoW!    Remember people - there are folks out there working hard to set the stage for those novels/movies such as 1984 and a Clockwork Orange....
2013-04-09 7:57 AM
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I've got neighborhood kids here all the time eating my food, and messing up my kids rooms all the time. I kinda wish they would all go home so I only had to take care of my own!
2013-04-09 8:21 AM
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Would she agree that includes pre born children?
2013-04-09 8:28 AM
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dontracy - 2013-04-09 8:21 AM Would she agree that includes pre born children?

Sadly, you and I both know the answer to that question.



2013-04-09 8:39 AM
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I truly wish I could say I was surprised, but alas, I am not.
2013-04-09 8:40 AM
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Rick Santorum wrote an excellent book that deals with the issues of our responsibility toward the most vulnerable in our society, including children.  It's called It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good.  I recommend it to everyone, especially to liberal progressives.  What he lays out ought to be included in any serious debate and discussion about how to care for the poor and marginalized.

From the publisher:

An appreciation for the civic bonds that unite a community lies at the heart of genuine conservatism. Moreover, Santorum demonstrates how such an approach to political, social, and economic problems offers the most promise for those on the margin of life: the poor, the vulnerable, and minorities who have often been excluded from opportunity in America...

Throughout his book, Santorum emphasizes the central role of the family—in contradistinction to the metaphorical “village” of the federal government, as promoted by Hillary Clinton—in achieving the common good.

2013-04-09 8:42 AM
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I thought this was exaggerated topic until I watched.   Personal accountability is a thing of the past.  
2013-04-09 8:47 AM
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cardenas1 - 2013-04-09 9:42 AM

I thought this was exaggerated topic until I watched.   Personal accountability is a thing of the past.  


This is a case where I wish I were taking something out of context or exaggerating a comment made.

2013-04-09 9:08 AM
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I think the DIY mis-construction thread has more viewers than MSNBC.


2013-04-09 9:37 AM
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Or not.

http://freakoutnation.com/2013/03/18/fox-news-and-cnn-has-a-viewership-problem-msnbc-saw-the-greatest-audience-gains/
2013-04-09 11:04 AM
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crowny2 - 2013-04-09 9:37 AM Or not.

http://freakoutnation.com/2013/03/18/fox-news-and-cnn-has-a-viewership-problem-msnbc-saw-the-greatest-audience-gains/

Pretty left wing reading list you got there  

(I am being silly with the numbers...I know but the point of my humor was....)

They are right. Increasing viewership from 100 to 200 is still a 100% gain. Even so they are still broadcasting in a vacuum. 

2013-04-09 11:09 AM
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Is that REALLY what she's saying?

REALLY? 

Yet some familiar BT names SHOUTED at the TOP of their lings that 'Mittens' didn't mean anything negative about his (secretly recorded) "47%" comment. 

I CAN NOT WAIT til midterm elections.  RIP GOP!  Yell

2013-04-09 11:13 AM
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jeffnboise - 2013-04-09 12:09 PM

Is that REALLY what she's saying?

REALLY? 

So what is she saying?

2013-04-09 11:21 AM
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TriRSquared - 2013-04-09 11:13 AM
jeffnboise - 2013-04-09 12:09 PM

Is that REALLY what she's saying?

REALLY? 

So what is she saying?

She saying that It Takes A Village akin to what Hillary Clinton wrote 20 years ago.  It's a grand idea - if everyone cares about all of the kids then all of the kids will do better.  However, the problem is when the village believes that it collectively knows better then the individuals and insists on imprinting its will on the individuals.  IMHO, its no better whether the liberals or the conservatives are controlling the village. 



2013-04-09 11:27 AM
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TriRSquared - 2013-04-09 10:13 AM
jeffnboise - 2013-04-09 12:09 PM

Is that REALLY what she's saying?

REALLY? 

So what is she saying?

She's saying that if YOUR kid is kicking the crap kicked out of him in MY yard-then I'm gonna help YOUR kid out.  Even if I don't share your political views.

It really does Take a Village to Raise a Child.  (Thanks, Hillary)

2013-04-09 11:27 AM
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Hook'em - 2013-04-09 11:21 AM
TriRSquared - 2013-04-09 11:13 AM
jeffnboise - 2013-04-09 12:09 PM

Is that REALLY what she's saying?

REALLY? 

So what is she saying?

She saying that It Takes A Village akin to what Hillary Clinton wrote 20 years ago.  It's a grand idea - if everyone cares about all of the kids then all of the kids will do better.  However, the problem is when the village believes that it collectively knows better then the individuals and insists on imprinting its will on the individuals.  IMHO, its no better whether the liberals or the conservatives are controlling the village. 

Kind of like how everyone takes care of a public restrooms. 

2013-04-09 11:36 AM
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Nonsense.

If I were to give them the benefit of the doubt, it's probably an extreme spinoff of "It takes a village to raise a child".  I get what that's SUPPOSED to mean (at least to me).  We have teachers, and day camp counselors, and pastors and doctors that all help "raise" a child.

I also get what the whole "these are our children" line.  As in we need to protect "our" children from violence (even if we don't have children of our own).  I will vote on a law that will protect "our" children or help "our" children get a better education, even if I don't have a child of my own.

But people/groups say extreme things like this, but call them out, and they downplay them to the more subtle nuances I mentioned above.  But don't dare to tell me my kids don't "belong" to me.  Of course, then you will get the whole "no one "belongs" to anyone" and blah blah blah.

I generally dismiss rhetoric like this.

2013-04-09 11:38 AM
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Jackemy1 - 2013-04-09 10:27 AM
Hook'em - 2013-04-09 11:21 AM
TriRSquared - 2013-04-09 11:13 AM
jeffnboise - 2013-04-09 12:09 PM

Is that REALLY what she's saying?

REALLY? 

So what is she saying?

She saying that It Takes A Village akin to what Hillary Clinton wrote 20 years ago.  It's a grand idea - if everyone cares about all of the kids then all of the kids will do better.  However, the problem is when the village believes that it collectively knows better then the individuals and insists on imprinting its will on the individuals.  IMHO, its no better whether the liberals or the conservatives are controlling the village. 

Kind of like how everyone takes care of a public restrooms. 

 

There's a great Arj Barker joke about doing his civic duty to help out by peeing the $hit off the toilets when he's taking a leak. I feel it's very appropriate for this topic.



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2013-04-09 11:38 AM
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I think Kahlil Gibran says it best.

Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts, 
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, 
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, 
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, 
and He bends you with His might 
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies, 
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

 



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tricrazy - 2013-04-09 9:38 AM

I think Kahlil Gibran says it best.

Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts, 
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, 
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, 
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, 
and He bends you with His might 
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies, 
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

 

Will you send me some money to feed my kids?

2013-04-09 12:36 PM
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joestop74 - 2013-04-09 11:25 AM
tricrazy - 2013-04-09 9:38 AM

I think Kahlil Gibran says it best.

Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts, 
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, 
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, 
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, 
and He bends you with His might 
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies, 
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

 

Will you send me some money to feed my kids?

Ask your Governor, she's a kind, charitable soul.

2013-04-09 12:45 PM
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I wish I knew her address, there's about $21,000 in yearly college tuition bills she can help me with.
2013-04-09 1:03 PM
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jeffnboise - 2013-04-09 11:09 AM

Is that REALLY what she's saying?

REALLY? 

Yet some familiar BT names SHOUTED at the TOP of their lings that 'Mittens' didn't mean anything negative about his (secretly recorded) "47%" comment. 

I CAN NOT WAIT til midterm elections.  RIP GOP!  Yell

I miss all the election threads.  Come on 2014...

Oh, and what the heck does Mittens' 47% have to do with The Ministry of Propaganda putting out a socialist indoctrination piece?

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