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2013-04-30 10:05 PM in reply to: #4721658 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! tuwood - 2013-04-30 7:47 PM Just a slight correction. Manslaughter does not require malice at all. If I run a stoplight and hit somebody I didn't do it with any malice, but I was most certainly negligent. Wiki will tell you different. But there are several different kinds. Edited by powerman 2013-04-30 10:09 PM |
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2013-04-30 10:54 PM in reply to: #4721769 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! powerman - 2013-04-30 10:05 PM tuwood - 2013-04-30 7:47 PM Just a slight correction. Manslaughter does not require malice at all. If I run a stoplight and hit somebody I didn't do it with any malice, but I was most certainly negligent. Wiki will tell you different. But there are several different kinds. au contraire mon frere http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/html/crim/crim24.htm |
2013-04-30 11:46 PM in reply to: #4717657 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! Voluntary manslaughter has malice, involuntary does not... but involuntary manslaughter is not a mere accident. But it varies state to state. But I am no lawyer, and the internet is all i have, so I will quit while I am... somewhere. But I admit, I could be a mon frere. Edited by powerman 2013-04-30 11:47 PM |
2013-05-01 9:57 AM in reply to: #4721638 |
Master 1780 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-04-30 9:32 PM Seems to me the conversation just evolved naturally. Well done sir! |
2013-05-02 2:52 PM in reply to: #4721833 |
Master 2477 Oceanside, California | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! powerman - 2013-04-30 9:46 PM Voluntary manslaughter has malice, involuntary does not... but involuntary manslaughter is not a mere accident. But it varies state to state. But I am no lawyer, and the internet is all i have, so I will quit while I am... somewhere. But I admit, I could be a mon frere.
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2013-05-03 7:31 AM in reply to: #4717657 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! Sorry to bring this one back, but I just saw this article and knew you guys would have a thing or two to say about it. Is evolution missing link in some Pennsylvania high schools? I was really surprised that there were any public school teachers teaching young earth ID in the classroom, but apparently it's a little more prevalent than we all thought. I'm sure you guys will have some strong opinions on that. Here's their survey results:
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2013-05-03 7:40 AM in reply to: #4725512 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! I think it's very likely that there is a strong correlation between still having a land line, answering it, participating in a Gallop poll and not believing in evolution;) 106 respondants? Edited by switch 2013-05-03 7:45 AM |
2013-05-03 7:46 AM in reply to: #4725512 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! |
2013-05-03 7:52 AM in reply to: #4725512 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! tuwood - 2013-05-03 8:31 AM Sorry to bring this one back, but I just saw this article and knew you guys would have a thing or two to say about it. Is evolution missing link in some Pennsylvania high schools? I was really surprised that there were any public school teachers teaching young earth ID in the classroom, but apparently it's a little more prevalent than we all thought. I'm sure you guys will have some strong opinions on that. Here's their survey results:
That makes me want to move to another state.
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2013-05-03 7:53 AM in reply to: #4725528 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 7:46 AMThe Penn State survey of high school biology teachers makes me want to cry.Shane Agreed. Only 926 respondants. Let's hope there were a lot of good teachers that didn't respond. |
2013-05-03 7:55 AM in reply to: #4725528 |
Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 7:46 AM The Penn State survey of high school biology teachers makes me want to cry. Shane x2 |
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2013-05-03 7:59 AM in reply to: #4725542 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! Hook'em - 2013-05-03 7:55 AM I wonder what the Texas numbers would look like? (That sounds jerky, but I really don't mean it that way.)gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 7:46 AM The Penn State survey of high school biology teachers makes me want to cry. Shane x2 |
2013-05-03 8:05 AM in reply to: #4725540 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! switch - 2013-05-03 8:53 AM gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 7:46 AMThe Penn State survey of high school biology teachers makes me want to cry.Shane Agreed. Only 926 respondants. Let's hope there were a lot of good teachers that didn't respond. i went to HS in PA and was never taught creation/intelligent design in my biology classes. so there's 2 good teachers Edited by mehaner 2013-05-03 8:05 AM |
2013-05-03 8:09 AM in reply to: #4725552 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! switch - 2013-05-03 8:59 AM Hook'em - 2013-05-03 7:55 AM I wonder what the Texas numbers would look like? (That sounds jerky, but I really don't mean it that way.)gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 7:46 AM The Penn State survey of high school biology teachers makes me want to cry. Shane x2 there are a handful of states that question could apply to... |
2013-05-03 8:10 AM in reply to: #4725552 |
Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! switch - 2013-05-03 7:59 AM Hook'em - 2013-05-03 7:55 AM I wonder what the Texas numbers would look like? (That sounds jerky, but I really don't mean it that way.)gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 7:46 AM The Penn State survey of high school biology teachers makes me want to cry. Shane x2 I thought the exact same thing. I know a few years ago (1985) when I took high school biology, we were not taught creationism (ID came later). I'm afraid that since ID sounds more scientific it is beginning to be acceptable to teach. |
2013-05-03 8:12 AM in reply to: #4725572 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! Hook'em - 2013-05-03 8:10 AM switch - 2013-05-03 7:59 AM Hook'em - 2013-05-03 7:55 AM I wonder what the Texas numbers would look like? (That sounds jerky, but I really don't mean it that way.)gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 7:46 AM The Penn State survey of high school biology teachers makes me want to cry. Shane x2 I thought the exact same thing. I know a few years ago (1985) when I took high school biology, we were not taught creationism (ID came later). I'm afraid that since ID sounds more scientific it is beginning to be acceptable to teach. I was really surprised that anyone was teaching it in public schools to be honest. I know back in the late 80's when I was in HS it was all evolution and my kids are only being taught evolution in Nebraska which is up there as far as conservative states goes. **edit - I went to HS in Iowa Edited by tuwood 2013-05-03 8:16 AM |
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2013-05-03 8:19 AM in reply to: #4725578 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! tuwood - 2013-05-03 10:12 AM I was really surprised that anyone was teaching it in public schools to be honest. I know back in the late 80's when I was in HS it was all evolution and my kids are only being taught evolution in Nebraska which is up there as far as conservative states goes. **edit - I went to HS in Iowa It is incredibly scary the inroads that ID has made to get non-science into a science classroom or keep science out of a science classroom. Shane |
2013-05-03 8:47 AM in reply to: #4725597 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 8:19 AM tuwood - 2013-05-03 10:12 AM I was really surprised that anyone was teaching it in public schools to be honest. I know back in the late 80's when I was in HS it was all evolution and my kids are only being taught evolution in Nebraska which is up there as far as conservative states goes. It is incredibly scary the inroads that ID has made to get non-science into a science classroom or keep science out of a science classroom. Shane**edit - I went to HS in Iowa I do agree with you that ID and creation shouldn't be taught in the science classroom. I have opinions on religion and creation being taught in schools, but even if I totally got my way it wouldn't be in the science room. I would call it what it was and have it be part of a religion class or something like that. |
2013-05-03 9:01 AM in reply to: #4725654 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! tuwood - 2013-05-03 10:47 AM I do agree with you that ID and creation shouldn't be taught in the science classroom. I have opinions on religion and creation being taught in schools, but even if I totally got my way it wouldn't be in the science room. I would call it what it was and have it be part of a religion class or something like that. I agree; talking about creation and the various creation stories of different religions is great within a religion, comparative religion class or philosophy class. I think it is very valuable for students to critical engage with a wide variety of topics and think that creation stories are a great way to see how society has changed and been shaped by religion over the years. Shane |
2013-05-03 10:25 AM in reply to: #4717657 |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! So why is it OK to teach comparative religion in college but not in HS? Too political? Because secondary education is compulsory? I don't know how every high school curriculum is designed, but I know where my kids went they had to choose electives. If you made it an elective it would provide a mechanism for families who did not want their kids to take the course. |
2013-05-03 10:42 AM in reply to: #4725851 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-05-03 10:25 AM So why is it OK to teach comparative religion in college but not in HS? Too political? Because secondary education is compulsory? I don't know how every high school curriculum is designed, but I know where my kids went they had to choose electives. If you made it an elective it would provide a mechanism for families who did not want their kids to take the course. I think that would be cool. I love studying and learning about different religions, even though I'm an atheist. |
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2013-05-03 10:46 AM in reply to: #4725851 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-05-03 12:25 PM So why is it OK to teach comparative religion in college but not in HS? Too political? Because secondary education is compulsory? I don't know how every high school curriculum is designed, but I know where my kids went they had to choose electives. If you made it an elective it would provide a mechanism for families who did not want their kids to take the course. Not sure about the US but we have comparative religion as an elective at my school; as I understand it, one of the challenges is finding someone who is well versed enough in several religions to offer a true comparative religions course as opposed to a mostly Christian course with some other religions thrown in as we go. Shane |
2013-05-03 11:10 AM in reply to: #4725851 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! |
2013-05-03 11:16 AM in reply to: #4725899 |
Master 2477 Oceanside, California | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! gsmacleod - 2013-05-03 8:46 AM BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-05-03 12:25 PM So why is it OK to teach comparative religion in college but not in HS? Too political? Because secondary education is compulsory? I don't know how every high school curriculum is designed, but I know where my kids went they had to choose electives. If you made it an elective it would provide a mechanism for families who did not want their kids to take the course. Not sure about the US but we have comparative religion as an elective at my school; as I understand it, one of the challenges is finding someone who is well versed enough in several religions to offer a true comparative religions course as opposed to a mostly Christian course with some other religions thrown in as we go. Shane
The problem is that it is hard to trust people to teach it as an academic exercise without crossing the line of preaching a certain faith. There are instances where you can teach religious texts as literature. It is hard to teach major musical movements, periods, and influences without hitting some of the classical religious songs. However, it has to be academic. Take a lawsuit happy world, a lawsuit adverse organization, and a bunch of people likely to cross the line... it is hard to not just want to avoid it entirely. |
2013-05-03 1:59 PM in reply to: #4725886 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: How's your child's science curriculum? I bet it's not as "creative" as this one! switch - 2013-05-03 10:42 AM BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-05-03 10:25 AM So why is it OK to teach comparative religion in college but not in HS? Too political? Because secondary education is compulsory? I don't know how every high school curriculum is designed, but I know where my kids went they had to choose electives. If you made it an elective it would provide a mechanism for families who did not want their kids to take the course. I think that would be cool. I love studying and learning about different religions, even though I'm an atheist. I agree -- i love learning how so many people came to believe one thing that's unprovable. I understand faith but to get billions of people, even over a very long period of time, to believe the same thing is true is an astounding feat. |
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