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2013-05-10 9:29 AM


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Subject: California v. Florida for living

I am in my late 30s and in a unique situation where I can choose to live in Florida (Tampa area) or California (san diego, LA, or Sac) for my new job.  What a dream choice!   The job situation would be slightly better in California, but not drastically.  Has anyone lived in both places?  I have lived in San Diego before, spent a lot of time in Tampa area, but wasn't in the tri scene back then so I know the climate, etc., but looking for thoughts on the tri scene for someone who wants to really focus on becoming the person that competes for podium at the big races.   ...so, looking for thoughts on training partners/groups, inclusiveness, access to decent sports docs, ART therapy, chiro, etc that doesn't kill you with costs - I'm kind of leaning toward LA, but would love to get input

 

 



2013-05-10 9:35 AM
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2013-05-10 9:42 AM
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Subject: RE: California v. Florida for living

I've lived in Sarasota, south of Tampa for a long time, but also worked for a company based in downtown LA many years ago.

I've got a subjective bias towards FL, but also can also think of some specific reasons:

  • I prefer the Gulf of Mexico over the Pacific for OWS training.
  • If you have serious aspirations about triathlon, the US National Training Center is closeby in Clermont, FL

There is a strong triathlon culture in the Tampa area, but I'm sure you can find the same in LA.

Don't have any current hard data to back it up, but having spent time in both places, I would think that that cost of living would be significantly less in Tampa vs LA.

HTH,

Mark 

2013-05-10 9:43 AM
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Tampa has a very active tri community. You could probably race every weekend for a good portion of the year if you wanted. You may want to post in the state forums to get a more in depth idea of the areas.
2013-05-10 10:31 AM
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jdl2012 - 2013-05-10 9:35 AM Perhaps one way to judge is to look at which state or area offers more races... pretty much a clue as to how big it is there.

 

Crazy thought, I think it's "big" in both states, arguably the biggest two tri states out there.   I'm looking for insight from someone who has actually lived in both states and can compare the two based on living there, not based on the number of races I can find on a calendar.  thanks for the insight though

2013-05-10 10:33 AM
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Subject: RE: California v. Florida for living
RedCorvette - 2013-05-10 9:42 AM

I've lived in Sarasota, south of Tampa for a long time, but also worked for a company based in downtown LA many years ago.

I've got a subjective bias towards FL, but also can also think of some specific reasons:

  • I prefer the Gulf of Mexico over the Pacific for OWS training.
  • If you have serious aspirations about triathlon, the US National Training Center is closeby in Clermont, FL

There is a strong triathlon culture in the Tampa area, but I'm sure you can find the same in LA.

Don't have any current hard data to back it up, but having spent time in both places, I would think that that cost of living would be significantly less in Tampa vs LA.

HTH,

Mark 

 

Thanks, Mark.  Good point on the swimming - Pacific is always freezing, and gulf is much more beautiful.  ....and the no state income tax is a wonderful thing too. 

have you gone to the training center in Clermont?



2013-05-10 10:54 AM
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hum, not sure I'd ever pick where to live based on triathlon environment.  Do you like hurricanes?  Earthquakes?  Which do you prefer to deal with?  IMO the weather in CA is better then the weather in FL, but yes, the water in warmer in FL.  Which one has the most sharks?  lol j/k 
2013-05-10 11:08 AM
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2013-05-10 11:08 AM
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bzgl40 - 2013-05-10 10:54 AM hum, not sure I'd ever pick where to live based on triathlon environment.  Do you like hurricanes?  Earthquakes?  Which do you prefer to deal with?  IMO the weather in CA is better then the weather in FL, but yes, the water in warmer in FL.  Which one has the most sharks?  lol j/k 

...laughing.  there is that health insurance issue with the shark bites. 

2013-05-10 11:29 AM
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Subject: RE: California v. Florida for living
Fla-no state income tax
2013-05-10 11:38 AM
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I lived in Sac for two years. The cycling opportunities are outstanding year round. The American River Bike Path is awesome. 32 miles of paved path up to Folsom. 64 round trip. Then the loop around Folsom Lake is 50 miles including two killer climbs. Or cycle to Amador county wine country! It's like Napa was before it got overrun with limo tours. Lots of swimming spots although chilly early on. More races than you can shake a stick at.The Auburn tri is super challenging. The town is very hip without all the expense and faux coolness of LA or the Bay Area.Also it is attached to the Sierra plate so it's almost earthquake proof.I'm hoping we get posted back there. Edit: don't buy propert in California. The state is so fiscally messed up you want to be able to bail out if it gets ugly.

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2013-05-10 12:35 PM
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Av8rTx - 2013-05-10 11:29 AM Fla-no state income tax

It may seem trivial, but other than this, I think your political views may be a factor as well.  Do you want to live where the state and local government is generally conservative in nature and work to preserve small government, low taxes, etc.  OR live in California where the left is far in control and the tax situation is out of control.

My vote, Florida.

2013-05-10 12:53 PM
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LSUfan4444 - 2013-05-10 1:35 PM

Av8rTx - 2013-05-10 11:29 AM Fla-no state income tax

It may seem trivial, but other than this, I think your political views may be a factor as well.  Do you want to live where the state and local government is generally conservative in nature and work to preserve small government, low taxes, etc.  OR live in California where the left is far in control and the tax situation is out of control.

My vote, Florida.

totally on board with this thought process.  I like to visit both areas, but for many many reasons I'd pick Tampa over San Diego.  

2013-05-10 1:12 PM
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Miami Cool

Our OW is 81F todayLaughing

2013-05-10 1:15 PM
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Subject: RE: California v. Florida for living

FL: Cheapter to live, no state income tax, warm/hot year round, big city atmosphere (but not too big), many events year round, beaches are better

 

CA: SD is a cool spot, more expensive, nice climate (not too hot), big city atmosphere, many events year round, state income tax

I prefer FL.  CA seems to be distant from the rest of the US for some reason.  Sounds like a win-win situation

2013-05-10 1:18 PM
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Subject: RE: California v. Florida for living

No hills in Florida.

That would be a deal breaker for me.



2013-05-10 1:25 PM
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There are hills.  Great Floridian in Clermont is definitely pretty hilly.  No, not "mountains", but certainly hills.
2013-05-10 1:59 PM
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In California (my state) if you shoot an armed intruder IN YOUR HOME, you are in it with grand jury indictments and paying tens of thousands of dollars in attorney fees.  Even if you are found not guilty libel suits by the intruder or his family can financially ruin you due to the anti-gun climate.  If you shoot an armed intruder in your home in Florida you don't have to wait for the guy to be a foot and a half away from you with a knife before shooting.  Don't believe in owning a gun?  That's eveyone's personal choice, or should be anyway.

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2013-05-10 2:10 PM
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datlas - 2013-05-10 2:18 PM

No hills in Florida.

That would be a deal breaker for me.

This is where I do my hill workouts, the mile long Ringling Bridge over Sarasota Bay.  Can ride 365 days/year, even while you are watching it snow up north.  Over & back as much as I feel like, and when I'm done I go another mile to get to the beach. Wink

The hard core guys make the trip up to Clermont once a month or so to ride the hills there.  I just do local tri's, so hill training isn't a big priority.  Learning to ride in the wind is however.

Mark



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2013-05-10 2:43 PM
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Dan Estrada - 2013-05-10 2:59 PM In California (my state) if you shoot an armed intruder IN YOUR HOME, you are in it with grand jury indictments and paying tens of thousands of dollars in attorney fees.  Even if you are found not guilty libel suits by the intruder or his family can financially ruin you due to the anti-gun climate.  If you shoot an armed intruder in your home in Florida you don't have to wait for the guy to be a foot and a half away from you with a knife before shooting.  Don't believe in owning a gun?  That's eveyone's personal choice, or should be anyway.

Interesting take. This would never, ever factor in to my decision making. Ever.

The choice posed in the OP is, IMO, no choice at all; San Diego wins. First, last, always.

2013-05-10 2:45 PM
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Subject: RE: California v. Florida for living

I would rather swim in the Gulf than the colder Pacific currents, and FLA has no personal income tax, and there are plenty of races year-round.



2013-05-10 3:41 PM
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Dan Estrada - 2013-05-10 11:59 AM In California (my state) if you shoot an armed intruder IN YOUR HOME, you are in it with grand jury indictments and paying tens of thousands of dollars in attorney fees.  Even if you are found not guilty libel suits by the intruder or his family can financially ruin you due to the anti-gun climate.  If you shoot an armed intruder in your home in Florida you don't have to wait for the guy to be a foot and a half away from you with a knife before shooting.  Don't believe in owning a gun?  That's eveyone's personal choice, or should be anyway.

LOL.  Yes, *this* is what I base my living choices on.

Can't really comment to the OP sicne I was born and raised in Cal (which I love, by the way, I have 60-80 miles of hills and trails outside my backdoor overlooking the pacific.....) and have a friend that just moved to Boca.  She noted that the tri scene is a little less popular there, probably more likely a reflection of the demographics in Boca.  Race season is different, we race year round in Cal, in Florida the summer gets much much hotter.  I guess there are races in August but you better like heat and humidity. 

And sorry, Pacific ocean is where it's at! 

Typical so cal ride:

 



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2013-05-11 6:24 AM
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Subject: RE: California v. Florida for living

I have lived in both places. San Diego and 3 locations in Florida (north FL at the beaches in Jax, St. Augustine, and for the longest period Key West, where I still am.) So I had the pleasure of living at the southern most points of both coasts (not by accident.)

I loved San Diego, in particular the weather (no humidity), a real city with a lot to do and a relatively low crime rate for being a big city, interesting topography.

I love Key West because of warm weather all year, no personal income taxes, and warm water for OWS,

If I was in my 30's again and had a good job offer, didn't mind the higher taxes and a bit higher cost of living, and could stand the cold water in the Pacific, I would choose San Diego any day over Florida, including the area you are talking about.

I would go back now myself if it weren't for the taxes and frigid water.

2013-05-11 6:42 AM
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It seems that is a trick question.

The right answer is:

Get a new job in TEXAS!

Though just in case it is not a trick question. Politically Florida is a southern state and California... uhm well more a European state (to put this in nice words).

I personally have Cal and NY at the bottom list of states I would want to live in...

2013-05-11 6:56 AM
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Although I didn't think this was supposed to be a thread about politics, since a couple of people now have gone there, lets me clear about presumed politics in places where you might not have lived. San Diego is one of the most politically conservative places I have ever lived, and as you can see, I have lived all over Florida (also DC, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma (raised there), and Washington.) California is like Florida in the sense that politics is a bit regional. In Florida the further north you go, as a general rule, the more conservative it gets. The southern part of the State though is most definitely not conservative.

 

In any event, if politics is an issue you are concerned about, better not to rely on anyone who hasn't lived in San Diego or Florida.

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