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2013-05-29 3:51 PM

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This is probably more of a rant than anything. No one else seems to understand. Plus, I have a feeling this is going to turn into a very long post..HA! HA! You have been warned...
I decided back in September of 2012 It was time to get my fat self off the couch. Lose some weight, get my blood sugar under control.(I'm a type 1 diabetic and I wear an insulin pump) So because I'm 47 at the time and have basically been inactive for a very long time. Except for some bike riding after dinner with my wife. Which we both really enjoyed. I for some reason have always been interested in Triathlons. I'm not a go to the gym type of guy to try and exercise and get into shape. So I thought with the swim, bike, run, it would be enough new learning and interesting and challenging enough to keep me interested and to keep at it. I had to start from the beginning. So I start the couch to 5k program. got through it with some struggling. Kept running a little each week. Ran my first 5K in December very slow. 41:40 Not a problem, I was not in this to get a podium. I was in it to get in shape, lose some weight and have some fun along the way. Well the weight wasn't coming off. I still really haven't lost much weight. Almost 10 months later. Yeah Yeah I know diet.. I don't eat extremely clean but clean enough where I should be losing something. So discouragement number 1. I continue to run and now have a trainer for the bike in the basement It is knee deep snow and very cold in Michigan so the trainer was necessary. I do another 5k in February 36.20 hey OK a little improvement. Once again this is for my health not to win trophies. Well then came time to sign up for a gym membership so I can start swimming. I have read every article on BT about swimming. So I knew it was going to be a little rough to begin with. NOT!!! It was a lot rough and it still is. I have been going to the pool 3 to 4 times a week since February. I still suck. I can't get in more then 200 yards and that is with a lot of breaths at each end of the pool. I suck so bad I can't even use a pool buoy. Someone else posted the same thing. NO one had an answer, everyone just answered what they use a pool buoy for. I know what they are for. I want to be able to get some laps in. Now you all are going to say get a coach. Join a masterclass. Neither one of those is going to happen. I have scanned the bulletin boards at the Gym, I have searched Craigs list and the phone book.. NO coaches in my area. I have even asked a few of the descent swimmers at the pool. but looking at them they are not triathletes. They are swimming laps like they did in High school and that is how they do it. Full kick and as fast as they can go for 25 yds. then rest at the other end shooting the bull with their buddies. When I ask one, he said Triathlon? isn't that where you throw the disc and shot putt and javelin?? ummm yeah ok..The closest Master program is an hour plus drive away that isn't feasible either. So I have been a scuba diver for 12 plus years. I have read on here that a wetsuit really improves your swim. I have a wetsuit for diving. It has been said on here though, that a dive wetsuit can't be worn in triathlon. what? neoprene is neoprene right? So another dilemma. So, today at the pool I struggled again trying to get my yards which didn't happen and now I'm 8 weeks out from a tri I signed up for a long time ago just to keep me motivated. I still cant swim the distance needed for the swim. Discouragement number 2 I'm so screwed.
Now, I'm going to tell you another story that was probably the final blow to my lower region and discouragement number 3. I ran another 5k in April 33:56 ok still getting better. Nothing like I think it should though. I haven't lost any weight. My run has basically stalled out. no improvement in some time now. So I sign up for a Duathlon.Just to get the basic idea of how this whole multisport thing will work. Transitions and the other aspects. So along comes race day. I toe up to the start line and the gun goes off. So does the entire field. They were out of sight within 90 seconds. I thought we were supposed to start slow on the first run of a duathlon? so you have some left for the second run. I still stick to my plan. Nice and steady. 1.5 miles into the first run the pace truck pulls up to me and tells me to move further over to the right the bikers are coming.. WHAT??? I run the first 5k in 38 flat. My wife and I were last to get on the bikes. Well that makes transition easy they are the only 2 bikes sitting there. I'm actually a descent biker as it turns out. I hop on the bike and rock it pretty good. I actually started passing people. OK this feels a little better now I tell myself. Granted the ones I was passing were on hybreds and mountain bikes. It was still a little boost to my now deflated ego. I did the bike 12.5 miles in 40 minutes. woo hoo Not good for you pros but for me right on target. Plus it was a very windy cold day. I wasn't last to start the last run but not far from it. Run number 2.Those few I passed on the bike now blew by me. I was all alone on the course now except my wife who was somewhere behind me. I finished the second 5k in 38:20. By the time I finished, all of the other participants were packed up and gone most of the transition area was disassembled and put away in the trucks. That really hurt. So much for all of the encouragement and atta boys I was expecting from the du and tri community. Even Though I knew, I was only in this to finish. I just never expected it to be full of all top elite athletes. I know there are the ones who show up to win every time. I just figured there would be some people there also that were like me just want to have fun get in shape. That wasn't the case. I almost felt like I was holding up the company that ran the race. I didn't feel any sense of accomplishment or anything. I felt like I was a hindrance to everyone and why was I there. So Discouragement 4. Every since that race a month ago. I have lost my motivation. I just don't want to get out there anymore. After today in the Pool not being able to get it, After the duathlon debacle. I say I guess I can just go back to riding my bike after dinner.. OK Sorry..


2013-05-29 4:03 PM
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I know this will defy logic but the key to getting past only able to swim a long distance is very simple. Swim slower. swim so slow you are not evening breathing hard. All of sudden you will relaize you can swim a longer distance. once your comfortable you will get your speed very quickly
2013-05-29 4:11 PM
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For swimming, make sure you're exhaling (slowly) while your face is in the water. Too many people hold their breath while their face is in the water, and then you're trying to exhale and inhale during the short time it's out. Ends up with shallow breaths, and you feel like you're suffocating in 25 yards. Ease up, slowly exhale while your face is in the water so that you have the FULL time your face is above to deeply inhale.

Give it a try and see if that helps.

2013-05-29 4:13 PM
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Hey, I have some quick thoughts for you:

Swimming:  I understand starting from scratch and lacking options for classes, etc.   Can you get a copy of the book Total Immersion: The Revolutionary Way to Swim Better, Faster, and Easier.  My library had it, but it's worth the money too.   Here's the deal with Total Immersion - it's a way of swimming and it can be controversial.  The reason I recommend it to you is that, starting from scratch, it helped me get a vision for what I should be doing. It's just a good way to start.  You don't have to go any further with it, but reading the book is helpful.

I get why you use a pull buoy in the way you mean. I did that to prep for my first triathlon where I knew I would have a wet suit, which feels about the same.  I think you should try it again after some swimming research.  In addition to the TI book, maybe view some swimming videos on YouTube.  It WILL click.

Duathlons are a whole different beast.  You run hard from the beginning and they are competitive.  Don't let it color your world.

 Everyone has a different path. As long as it's something you're interested in, I say keep at it.   Or don't, you don't HAVE to do a triathlon because you said you would.  Hey, you discovered you like and are good at biking!  Maybe just focus on that and running for a while.  I understand the desire to challenge yourself, but it shouldn't be torture either.

Hang in there and good luck!



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2013-05-29 4:19 PM
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I'm going to completely agree with BuckHamilton on the swimming. The key is getting comfortable in the water, which is done by swimming slow. Once you are comfortable in the water and with your breathing you will be able to go further.

As for the rest of it: I'm not too knowledgeable about weight loss so not sure what the problem is but I you have to be much more healthy and your heart is probably a lot stronger too. You will feel amazing once you finish that triathlon. I can only speak for myself but I have more respect for people like you than I do for people that win it. Some people should have definitely stuck around and congratulated you. And if worst comes to worst and you do finish last, no big deal. At least you made the day of the person that finished second to last! Keep it up and keep on truckin! BT nation is proud to have you as a fellow Multi-Sport athlete.
2013-05-29 4:52 PM
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First, welcome 

Second, a little tough love.  If you want to be successful in triathlon - and by that I mean enjoy doing them, not winning anything - you need to learn how to fight against and overcome obstacles.  Everyone has their own crosses to bear coming in to this.  No, you are not screwed.  You need to try to change that mindset since that implies you are the victim of something

Yes, you have to be consistent and commit to some hard work because, frankly, swim /bike/ run are sometimes more painful starting out than fun, but eventually one or all will start to click and it will get easier. 

Speaking from someone who started slow and heavy, I'd say one place you can take immediate control is your weight (my high weight is 275, I now weigh 190).  Simple physiology.  Burn more calories than you take in.  If you are not losing weight, then you are eating too much and/or burning too little.  I recommend a calorie tracking app like myfitnesspal which will take out your subjective view of what is clean and inject some objective data.

Keep at it and good luck.  Log your workouts.  And let us know how it's going



2013-05-29 4:55 PM
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I can see where you'd be discouraged, especially since things aren't coming together as you hoped. Even for us guys that can run sub 20 5K and swim a long ways there is plenty of discouragement if you look for it. It also is a reality of training for things like this because it takes a lot of time and there are internal and external set backs.

I encourage you to focus on some stuff that really matters like the joy of training, the feel of water, the fact that you aren't on the couch anymore.

Internal motivation takes some time to grow but won't ever become sustaining until you give up on some of the external stuff.

Congrats on getting out there, finishing and keeping going!
2013-05-29 5:13 PM
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Welcome to BT.

Lots of good advice above, but just keep things in perspective. Your run times are getting faster, and your bike speed is pretty darn good for a beginner. Give yourself some credit there. You've still got tons of room to improve, but it also takes patience and consistency. It's okay if we slip here and there but the main thing is we keep moving forward over the long haul.

Best of luck on your journey and keep us posted.
2013-05-29 5:35 PM
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Is your tri in a pool or open water?

I did my first triathlon swim mostly on my back. I taught myself how to swim and turns out I am a lousy teacher. Downside of being on your back is its hard to see where you are going. It took me 56 mins to swim .5 miles. Most of the Oly racers beat me out of the water since it was so small it just had 2 waves.

Most people who are newer to swimming tend to swim way to fast so yes I would slow down. key is to make progress it does not have to be fast. You just have to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KILRRbCzwUE
this video might help you out. 2 things I really did wrong was when I did my stroke my I used to put my hand on top of the water. really you want it couple inches under the water. You never want to push water down when you pull your arm back. Second big mistake I made for a long time was not swimming tall. Part of that swimming slower let your self glide for a few moments before you take your next stroke. you take less strokes but your still moving forward. my 100m times go down a little but I able to do a lot more.
2013-05-29 6:13 PM
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Wow, if you took out the poor swimming (my run SUCKS) you could have been talking about me. I did my first Tri in Dec but the water quality forced the swim to be cancelled so my race was almost exactly like yours. I finished next to last (by 2 seconds) on the opening 1.5 miles run. Had a good bike ride passing several people and then limped in on the 5k at just over 35 minutes.

But I experienced one BIG difference. Nobody had left when I finished. I ended up beating about 40 people but light years behind podium folks. Everyone was still there, cheering for this fat old man in his first race.

Don't give up. Find yourself another race. While I have only done the one I have been to a few more. Around here at least nobody bolts as soon as they finish. These are events to be shared by all and the support is unbelievable.

As a swimmer, listen to what has been said above. My favorite saying about swimming 'The only thing you get by trying to muscle through a swim is tired'. Slow down and get comfortable with your form and rhythm. Do that and you will see significant progress.

Hang in there and good luck.
2013-05-29 6:27 PM
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Originally posted by briderdt

For swimming, make sure you're exhaling (slowly) while your face is in the water. Too many people hold their breath while their face is in the water, and then you're trying to exhale and inhale during the short time it's out. Ends up with shallow breaths, and you feel like you're suffocating in 25 yards. Ease up, slowly exhale while your face is in the water so that you have the FULL time your face is above to deeply inhale.

Give it a try and see if that helps.




This little piece of advice changed my swimming life forever. Went from dying through 2-300 yards to doing 1500 at a clip in two weeks.


2013-05-29 6:31 PM
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We have two sets of race organisers here in Melbourne.

Gatrorade - here's where those people wanting to prove something go.  Wanna qualify for the worlds duathlon or tri here's the place to be.  No-one really talks that much, I finished the Oly last i think and it was empty when I came in...save for my friends who kindly waited.   yes my bike was last but at least I could find it.

XOSize - fun triathlons - still same set up and fast times but people are relaxed, the atmosphere is great - always a mini tri option so lots of beginners.

I don't suck at swimming but I used to be a lot slower.  I'm lucky I found a coach and a squad that changed me.

Check out Effortless Swimming for some workouts - this guy is a pro triathlete in melbourne and specialises in OWS.  I'm actually having a personal lesson with him next week, dead excited.

Please don't give up.

I am no athlete, this is well out of my comfort zone.  Some days I just wanna stop and do something I'm really good at.

Keep going mate!

2013-05-29 7:05 PM
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I can relate to much of what you shared.

As much as we all say we compete against ourselves, most all of us have some part of ourselves that is competitive and being towards the back can be demoralizing for some of us.

My first triathlon I was in the back of the pack and ended up second from last. I felt out of place, was scared and didn't have much fun.  I saw super fast athletes as intimidating Looking back it was more me trying to fit in and not feeling comfortable than the other athletes. Most of the folks I spoke with were super kind including my rack mates.  I'm not gifted or fast, but have gone on to do some 40-50 tris including 4 Ironmans.

I think the disappointing first tri for me motivated me to do better for the next one. Knowing that I could use help, I decided to hire a coach. Year two and year three were really magical. I amazed myself at my improvement.

Did you know anyone at the race besides your wife? Did you talk to other athletes?

Reality is that endurance sports takes consistency over time. How long have you been doing this? Keep at it and you will improve.

Ask yourself why you are doing this? Have you accomplished your goals? What about the race did you not enjoy? Did you have accurate expectations of your first du? What could you change to enhance your experience?

As to the swim, slow down, be sure you exhale and force yourself to keep swimming just to get in the breathing and timing of the stroke you can sustain. If your first tri is in open water, practice in open water many times before your first tri.

I'm glad you asked about your first race experience, so you can learn from it and keep going!

2013-05-29 8:15 PM
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A few questions and thoughts for you:
1. I see from your profile that you are in Flint. You aren't as far as you think from some resources. If you are looking for assistance, go to the Michigan forum and put a post there. There are quite a few of us posting regularly there who may be able to direct you to someone.
2. Regarding the weight loss, how much research have you done on it? One of the first things you need to realize is that watching your actual weight is not the best indication of progress. Muscle outweighs fat, so if you are building a bit if muscle in any way, even in your legs, it may offset burning some fat. Pay more attention to other numbers, such as your body fat % and your waist line measurement. Additionally, keep an eye on your resting HR...you should be seeing it becoming lower as you go through this.
3. Do you train by any certain method? Mainly I am wondering if you use a HR monitor or if you go by RPE (Rate of Perceived Effort) or what you might do. If you are going by RPE, you may notice yourself getting faster at the same RPE.
4. I don't expect your duathlon experience to be typical for most triathlons. I tend to stick around most triathlons for quite a while, and so do a whole lot of people. Duathlons can be a different animal, so don't let that discourage you.
5. Just always keep in perspective why you are doing this. We all have frustrating days out there, but the benefits have always outweighed those negative moments for me.

I do think that when you cross the finish line of your first triathlon, it will be one heck of a feeling. I know I choked up as I was coming down the chute in my first one, and it wasn't just being ready to puke!
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On swimming, try to do a longer distance by alternating lengths of freestyle and breaststroke or backstroke. When you can prove you can do the distance by any means necessary, you'll start feeling more confident. The time you loose is relatively minor. Via a quick search, there is a tri club at Kettering university. That is for college students, but the coach may know of other local people who can help coach you. Don't let the duathlon discourage you: you basically took your worst part and did it twice
You did awesome on the bike. Take pride in it. My bike speed at my first full sprint 3 weeks ago was only 16.8 mph. You were at 18.75 mph.
Lastly I'll leave you with my favorite new old quote:


"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic" speech, Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910.


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2013-05-29 9:35 PM
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Swimming: Is it pool or open water? Either way, someone else mentioned they did most of their first tri backstroke. I did too (in open water). Even after I learned freestyle, I would freak out in open water and backstroke most of the way. It wasn't good but it kept me in triathlons and I'm fine doing freestyle now.

I was one of those "crap, I can barely swim 25 meters freestyle!" people when I started. It took me 4 months of doing TI drills 3-4 times a week before freestyle clicked and I could go and go. In the meantime I usually did about 500 meters of backstroke before the drills, just so I felt like I got some kind of workout. Every few weeks there is a "swimming clicked for me!" thread. That will be you one day but maybe not before your tri.

I think there will be more friendliness and cheering at your tri than there was at the du. Especially if it was a crappy day weather-wise, probably only the hard-core people came out. Possilby see if you can find some people to come spectate/ cheer at your tri. I'm surprised at the random acquaintances I have who think it's fun to watch a tri and cheer for me. It's really nice to have someone doing that, and it might not be your best friends who will do it.

For wetsuits- triathlon wetsuits are made to keep you warm, but also to help you float. Diving wetsuits are made to keep you warm, and also let you sink.

For weight- that sucks. Some people really lost weight doing tris but I'm one who doesn't. It takes concentrated calorie-counting and discipline for me. I can easily overeat healthy food so eating "clean" makes you feel great but can keep you fat.

Good job on your accomplishments so far.


2013-05-29 9:51 PM
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The TI program does work. I grew up swimming goofing around in the pool. Even was on swim team as a kid but never really learned how to swim even somewhat properly. I didn't swim for years until 2011 when I decided to get into this thing called triathlons. In 2011, picked up the book and dvd, started doing the drills for about 10 weeks and saw good progress.

Now even though I am far from great I am around 2:00/100 and when doing sets of 200s, 300s. I can be around 1:40-145/100

but as others have said there are opinions on the program. But the program teaches one thing that I believe is most important and that is learning balance in the water. I don't worry about stroke count like it is stressed in the plan. I found that it didn't work for me and my stroke rate is naturally higher. I tried reducing my stroke rate and found it much harder to swim.

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2013-05-29 10:05 PM
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Hey everyone!! Wow what a lot of responses. I thought I would see quit your whining and go train. I'm on my phone so don't know how to do the multi quote option. SO I will answer the best I can.

SWIMMING : I have watched almost every video I could find online. TI, swimsmooth. And others it just isn't clicking. I do exhale underwater. As far as going slow I'm going as slow ad possible. Except I'm such an extreme sinker that I have to work twice as hard to stay horizontal. I even broke down and bought some Jammers and took my Tshirt off. Trust me that was harder than learning to swim. Like I said. I tried using a pull buoy so I could go slower and work on form. Couldn't do it. I was all of balance. And kept flipping over. So like I said. I suck so bad I can't even use a pull buoy. Rest of training. I use the Rpe method. I just got a watch that came with a HR monitor haven't done the test yet to get my zones. I just know for the last couple of months now my Rpe hasn't changed. I seem to have hit a plateau.. For the person who mention Kettering. Thanks I will look into talking to them. I have lurked in the Michigan forums on this site but most pf them live and train an hour away in the metro Detroit area.. I will read this again in case I missed one pr two. Thanks for the responses so far.
2013-05-29 10:51 PM
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Lots of good info and inspiration for you already. Lots of people have trouble with swimming at the start. I started swimming January 2nd, 2012 and I swam 3 days a week and one day at the end of June I was swimming in a lane with a woman swimming ahead of me & just a bit slower than me and the next thing I knew I had swam 30lengths 750m continuous. It came as a total shock. Within a couple more weeks I was swimming 1800m in a Lake. You too can do this.

I too have scuba dived and the wetsuit is definitely different. I believe they have a rule restricting thickness of the suit so unfortunately they are not, "Same,same."

As for weight loss - your body has to make physiological changes to adapt to the new you. As those changes are made the weight will change. My waist has gone from 40.5" to 36" but the scales still LIE!!! Keep at it.

Duathlons - On May 16th I wrote a race report here "Bare Bones Duathlon". Go read it. You could've written it. I was 74th of 75 and I was in far worse shape than you for the last run. For me, this means I have to go back next year and do the duathlon again but next year I'll do it in 2:22:xx rather than 2:47:xx.

You are right though - it is the interactions you have with other athletes that make races fun and interesting. So find some of the more casual events and have some fun and encourage anyone struggling - even if you are too.
2013-05-29 11:32 PM
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Hey everyone!! Wow what a lot of responses. I thought I would see quit your whining and go train. I'm on my phone so don't know how to do the multi quote option. SO I will answer the best I can.

SWIMMING : I have watched almost every video I could find online. TI, swimsmooth. And others it just isn't clicking. I do exhale underwater. As far as going slow I'm going as slow ad possible. Except I'm such an extreme sinker that I have to work twice as hard to stay horizontal. I even broke down and bought some Jammers and took my Tshirt off. Trust me that was harder than learning to swim. Like I said. I tried using a pull buoy so I could go slower and work on form. Couldn't do it. I was all of balance. And kept flipping over. So like I said. I suck so bad I can't even use a pull buoy. Rest of training. I use the Rpe method. I just got a watch that came with a HR monitor haven't done the test yet to get my zones. I just know for the last couple of months now my Rpe hasn't changed. I seem to have hit a plateau.. For the person who mention Kettering. Thanks I will look into talking to them. I have lurked in the Michigan forums on this site but most pf them live and train an hour away in the metro Detroit area.. I will read this again in case I missed one pr two. Thanks for the responses so far.


Funny story about my pull buoy experience. Been doing tris for 4 years now. Use a pull buoy for the first time this past week and promptly flipped completely over on my first breath! Of course my friends saw the whole thing and both where laughing so hard they had to stop swimming. When they finally caught their breath they were both saying "Way to go Ironman!!"

Moral of the story: Even those of us who have good balance in the water can still flustered. Hang in there!
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Originally posted by tbristol Hey everyone!! Wow what a lot of responses. I thought I would see quit your whining and go train. I'm on my phone so don't know how to do the multi quote option. SO I will answer the best I can. SWIMMING : I have watched almost every video I could find online. TI, swimsmooth. And others it just isn't clicking. I do exhale underwater. As far as going slow I'm going as slow ad possible. Except I'm such an extreme sinker that I have to work twice as hard to stay horizontal. I even broke down and bought some Jammers and took my Tshirt off. Trust me that was harder than learning to swim. Like I said. I tried using a pull buoy so I could go slower and work on form. Couldn't do it. I was all of balance. And kept flipping over. So like I said. I suck so bad I can't even use a pull buoy. Rest of training. I use the Rpe method. I just got a watch that came with a HR monitor haven't done the test yet to get my zones. I just know for the last couple of months now my Rpe hasn't changed. I seem to have hit a plateau.. For the person who mention Kettering. Thanks I will look into talking to them. I have lurked in the Michigan forums on this site but most pf them live and train an hour away in the metro Detroit area.. I will read this again in case I missed one pr two. Thanks for the responses so far.

1. One thing that really helped me get 'balance' in the water was swimming a few lengths with my head in different positions.  Higher in the water, lower in the water.  It really solidified where my balance point was, which meant I didn't have to work so hard to stop sinking. 

2. Re breathing: try breathing more or less strokes.  So try every 3, every 5, etc.  I find sometimes less strokes doesn't give me enough time to breath out enough to take a breath.  Experiment to see what works. 

3. Also, just because you feel out of breath, doesn't mean you can't continue.  When I started swimming, I was doing 50s with X seconds of rest.  I always took more than X because I was out of breath.  One rep I just decided to go on the prescribed rest, even if I felt out of breath still.  And I was fine; it was a mental thing. 

4. I mostly breast stroked my first tri.  Had been training for months, but the adrenaline of the race just couldn't do it.  You know what?  I still finished the race and called myself a triathlete.  Be aware of others, but there is nothing in the rules that you must freestyle. 

5. Keep working, and have fun! 



2013-05-30 5:33 AM
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Hang in there. Focus on the positives. You have improved your run times greatly. Your bike speed is pretty good! You will hit plateaus though. Keep working and try to vary your run training.

You do need to get a handle on your nutrition and calorie intake. No amount of training can offset poor diet. Not for you or for an elite athlete. Start reading labels, portion control, eat smaller portions more frequently. Best foods grow out of the ground (veggies) or have parents(chicken,fish,lean beef). Processed foods have to be kept to a minimum. Take most of your calories in early in the day when your body needs them and then less in the evening. Large breakfast, medium lunch, small dinner. You should wake up hungry in the morning.

If you start to see the pounds coming off, all of your training will improve.

Swimming is hard. By far the hardest of the three disciplines and takes the most time to become efficient. 100% technique. It took me two years to learn to breathe with my face in the water. I did my first 6 triathlons swimming with my head above water so I can relate to your frustration. Do try to find a coach if possible, it will be well worth it.

Be patient and give yourself a chance, you are doing better than you think! You have more support than you realize. Keep going, you'll get there!
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