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 2013-06-09 6:45 AM |
Extreme Veteran  415 |  Subject: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire?For those who have done a half-iron distance, who here has taken the risk of not packing an extra clincher tube/tubular tire during their race? I know most will say, you have put in all the training so why risk a flat with no backup. Just curious? ;-) |
| 2013-06-09 8:19 AM in reply to: tigers75 |
Pro 5892    , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Are you talking about the tire or a tube? I bet most people would race without a spare tire, and most would bring a spare tube. I race primarily sprints and duathlons, so I never bring a tube... it's a personal choice. The 5 minutes it would take be to replace the tube would mean that I'm too far out of contention, so I elect not to. That being said, I completely understand if you bring a tube. For longer distances, I would bring a tube and a Co2. |
| 2013-06-09 8:40 AM in reply to: tigers75 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? I don't race triathlons without a spare; even a 10km walk in bike shoes or barefeet is a long way so IMO it is best to be prepared to fix a flat and be able to ride back to transition if nothing else. A well positioned flat kit, even if you are carrying a spare tubular, should have zero impact on your race (no aero penalty) so there really is no reason to not have a flat kit with you. Shane |
| 2013-06-09 8:42 AM in reply to: audiojan |
Extreme Veteran 875 Issaquah | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by audiojan Are you talking about the tire or a tube? I bet most people would race without a spare tire, and most would bring a spare tube. I race primarily sprints and duathlons, so I never bring a tube... it's a personal choice. The 5 minutes it would take be to replace the tube would mean that I'm too far out of contention, so I elect not to. That being said, I completely understand if you bring a tube. For longer distances, I would bring a tube and a Co2. This. I've done 5x HIMs and never brought a spare tire. Tubes/CO2 and a small multi-tool though I bring on every ride (race or not). I've had to use all in races. |
| 2013-06-09 9:58 AM in reply to: tigers75 |
Regular 140 Raleigh | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? I got a flat last week during my 70.3, right around mile 15. I quickly changed tubes and still set a PR. So no, I would not risk it. Bring the flat kit. |
| 2013-06-09 10:06 AM in reply to: 0 |
| New user 560 Key West | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Ok, I'll admit I have done a 70.3 without a tube. The truth is I can't change a flat (certainly can't change it in any short period of time), so why bother bringing it with. I figured if I had a flat, that was it for my race, since I am a slow cyclist anyway. I know I need to take the time to get good at changing a flat, I just haven't, so counting on luck, which is never a good thing to do. Edited by topolina 2013-06-09 10:07 AM |
| 2013-06-09 10:19 AM in reply to: tigers75 |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? I will take a tube but not a tire. I may rethink that in the future since a friend of mine shredded his tire in the last HIM Raliegh. And I shredded a tire several weeks ago and had to get SAGed home. |
| 2013-06-09 10:26 AM in reply to: 0 |
New user 28 | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Shredded a clincher or tubular tire? Edited by shoop31 2013-06-09 10:27 AM |
| 2013-06-09 10:50 AM in reply to: pschriver |
Regular 140 Raleigh | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by pschriver I will take a tube but not a tire. I may rethink that in the future since a friend of mine shredded his tire in the last HIM Raliegh. And I shredded a tire several weeks ago and had to get SAGed home. Do you know where your friend was at on the bike when this happened? Raleigh is the race where I got a flat too. |
| 2013-06-09 10:52 AM in reply to: topolina |
Regular 140 Raleigh | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by topolina Ok, I'll admit I have done a 70.3 without a tube. The truth is I can't change a flat (certainly can't change it in any short period of time), so why bother bringing it with. I figured if I had a flat, that was it for my race, since I am a slow cyclist anyway. I know I need to take the time to get good at changing a flat, I just haven't, so counting on luck, which is never a good thing to do. Take the time to learn and practice. It really is not that difficult. Easier than programming a VCR (if you are old enough to remember what that was like  ) |
| 2013-06-09 11:13 AM in reply to: pschriver |
Expert 2192 Greenville, SC | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by pschriver I will take a tube but not a tire. I may rethink that in the future since a friend of mine shredded his tire in the last HIM Raliegh. And I shredded a tire several weeks ago and had to get SAGed home. That's surprising. Those were some of the smoothest roads I've ever ridden. I just stuff everything but a tire under my bike seat. Stays in place pretty well without any tape or straps. |
| 2013-06-09 12:49 PM in reply to: topolina |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by topolina Ok, I'll admit I have done a 70.3 without a tube. The truth is I can't change a flat (certainly can't change it in any short period of time), so why bother bringing it with. I figured if I had a flat, that was it for my race, since I am a slow cyclist anyway. I know I need to take the time to get good at changing a flat, I just haven't, so counting on luck, which is never a good thing to do. You really should learn how to change a flat. Having someone experienced show you the technique and coach you through doing it yourself a couple times will help. Much of it is finesse and learning from someone who can help is key. A BTer taught me and he made me do it 3 or 4 times before we finished up. I went home and practiced a bunch more times that weekend until I could do it under 3 minutes. But when I got new race wheels, I did not practice. In an IM aquabike, being a slow swimmer, I came out of T1 and flatted within 2 miles. I was so annoyed and had a heck of a time changing on my Zipps. I finally got it after about 15'. Lesson learned back to practicing. I learned with my Zipps I needed a different tire lever and it made it much easier. For my IM a few weeks later I knew how to do it quickly. Commit a weekend to learning and practicing a bunch and the skill will come. |
| 2013-06-09 12:54 PM in reply to: shoop31 |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by shoop31 Shredded a clincher or tubular tire? Mine was a clincher and I'm pretty sure he rides clinchers also |
| 2013-06-09 1:00 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by herkimer81 Originally posted by pschriver I will take a tube but not a tire. I may rethink that in the future since a friend of mine shredded his tire in the last HIM Raliegh. And I shredded a tire several weeks ago and had to get SAGed home. Do you know where your friend was at on the bike when this happened? Raleigh is the race where I got a flat too. I know he was leading in the 40-44 age group at the time. I imagine a lot of guys saw him on the side of the road. He said someting ablout a big descent when it happened. He still finished the race. Mine was also on a fairly steep descent at ablout 35 mph. I have it on video. The tire looked fine and I replaced the tube but when I went to inflate it the tube herniated through the split and popped. I put a folded dollar bill bill over the split. Tried another tube, it popped, so I was done. I had one tube left but it was a 650 I carry for my wife. Edited by pschriver 2013-06-09 1:27 PM |
| 2013-06-09 1:02 PM in reply to: Clempson |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by Clempson Originally posted by pschriver I will take a tube but not a tire. I may rethink that in the future since a friend of mine shredded his tire in the last HIM Raliegh. And I shredded a tire several weeks ago and had to get SAGed home. That's surprising. Those were some of the smoothest roads I've ever ridden. I just stuff everything but a tire under my bike seat. Stays in place pretty well without any tape or straps. Where do you "stuff yor tire"? Sorry, had to ask |
| 2013-06-09 1:20 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
Master 2855 Kailua, Hawaii | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? I bring a few spare tubes, but no spare tire. Also, the tires are either new or fairly new to begin with. I don't ride on my race tires. However, I have hit debris that ripped my tire open on a metric century once. I used a dollar bill to plug the hole and that got me back. So you might want to pack a "tire boot" in case of that happening. A piece of Tyvek envelope works. |
| 2013-06-09 2:02 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
| Colorado | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Never once brought a tire with me for a race or training ride. I just bring one tube and a CO2 cartridge. |
| 2013-06-09 4:18 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
Regular 606 Portland, Oregon | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by tigers75 He never asked if people pack an extra clincher tire. |
| 2013-06-09 6:06 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
Regular 194 Morton IL | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Actually I have brought the tube, tools, and CO2 in a small under seat bag on my 2 sprints. I have a 70.3 later in the season but I ride with it everywhere. I dont want to get stranded, wait :30 for sag wagon, or walk in..... I am not super fast but can change a tube in a few minutes. Never thought about packing a tire.... After reading may look into something to patch the tire just in case. |
| 2013-06-09 7:49 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
Member 251 Phoenix AZ | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Never ride with a spare tire. Spare tube and CO2 for my HIM. Can of Vittoria Pit Stop taped to the top tube for shorter races. |
| 2013-06-09 7:59 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
Member 44 Chilliwack | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? I raced Calgary 70.3 last year with Tubulars and no spare... I just put in some Tufo sealant and away I went. The race went fine. The next week, I was out on a training ride, shredded the rear in the middle of no where Alberta... It was a long hike back to the hotel... Always carry a spare now...And switched to clinchers as well... lol ~Mike |
| 2013-06-09 9:16 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
Member 522 Saint Paul, MN | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? Originally posted by tigers75 For those who have done a half-iron distance, who here has taken the risk of not packing an extra clincher tube/tubular tire during their race? I know most will say, you have put in all the training so why risk a flat with no backup. Just curious? ;-) I always keep a flat kit on my bike, any distance I ride. |
| 2013-06-09 10:11 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
Regular 107 Kansas City | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? I carry a spare tube, CO2, patch kit and a small tool. Last year during a HIM, I double flatted when I tore a small hole in my tire and failed to check it when I just threw in the spare tube. Made it a mile down the road and pop! I ended up patching and sliding a empty GU gel packet between the tire and tube to make it the last 16 miles of the leg. |
| 2013-06-09 10:43 PM in reply to: tigers75 |
| 20 | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? I have never carried a spare tire/tube. I completed the HIM in Lake Stevens, Washington last year and had no problems. I just got 808 Tubular race wheels and may pack a spare tubular tire for HIM Boulder this summer. I have only had one flat ever while riding(knock on wood) and am not very quick or good at changing them anyways. Train hard and hope for the best |
| 2013-06-09 10:46 PM in reply to: bikeday |
Master 1517 Grand Prairie | Subject: RE: who takes the risk during a 70.3--no backup tire? On training rides I have a spare tire (clincher), tube, tire boot, tube patch, mutlitool and 2 CO2 cartridges with me. Plus cell phone, ID, credit card and Leatherman. Due to laziness I used to carry all this in a race as well. Plan on doing this for my first 70.3 as well. |
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