Any super slow swimmers out there? (Page 2)
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2013-07-25 3:34 PM in reply to: Mellie03 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Any super slow swimmers out there? Yep. Me. I identify myself as a slow and adequate swimmer being usually near the end of the pack. I don't care, either. I will survive my 3rd IM coming up in Sept., though. That I will note. |
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2013-07-25 7:44 PM in reply to: Jason N |
New user 111 | Subject: RE: Any super slow swimmers out there? Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by oldSAP would anyone share their training to speed up their swim pace? i don't have access to any coach in my place. i swim at an average of 3:00/100meter and would really love to up my pace. You likely have some serious stroke flaws at that speed. The good news for you is that the big stroke flaws are usually the easiest to identify and correct. Have a good swimmer or a lifeguard watch you swim for a little while and I guarantee you they'll give you 2-3 tips that can tremendously help your form. The second part which you asked about as far as training. It doesn't have to be complicated. Just swim as much as you can. Probably 2x, or maybe even 5x what you're swimming now. You would probably be best working on shorter sets for now...maybe 8x25m or 4x50m with maybe 10 seconds rest between each 25m and 15 seconds rest between each 50m. Then about 1 minute break between the entire set. Make sure to swim at a good effort though. You should be gasping for air near the end of each set. Keep doing sets like these till you've swam as much as you can for the day (hopefully at least 45-60 minutes) and you should get out of the pool feeling exhausted. While it is important to work on form, don't underestimate the benefits of taxing your cardio system by swimming hard. Yes, your form will deteriorate some when you get tired, but this just means as your swimming fitness improves, your easy effort will become faster...thus you'll be able to maintain your form at a faster pace. And when you swim faster, your body will naturally streamline...thus improving your form even more. there aren't any good swimmers in my area so i was planning on asking someone to video record me while swimming and maybe send the video to a friend of mine who's a good swimmer. i've started swimming intervals yesterday and averaged 3:00/120meters. did them 5-6 times, and yes, i was gasping for air after each set too, and my strokes usually deteriorates when i reach 80-90meters. so your post was spot on. thank you for your reply. i'll try to do more swims and more intervals per swim. @austhokie, my pool swims do have drills and intervals but i think i'm not doing enough of them though. thanks for your tips. |
2013-07-25 10:34 PM in reply to: oldSAP |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Any super slow swimmers out there? Originally posted by oldSAP Originally posted by Jason N there aren't any good swimmers in my area so i was planning on asking someone to video record me while swimming and maybe send the video to a friend of mine who's a good swimmer. i've started swimming intervals yesterday and averaged 3:00/120meters. did them 5-6 times, and yes, i was gasping for air after each set too, and my strokes usually deteriorates when i reach 80-90meters. so your post was spot on. thank you for your reply. i'll try to do more swims and more intervals per swim. @austhokie, my pool swims do have drills and intervals but i think i'm not doing enough of them though. thanks for your tips. Originally posted by oldSAP would anyone share their training to speed up their swim pace? i don't have access to any coach in my place. i swim at an average of 3:00/100meter and would really love to up my pace. You likely have some serious stroke flaws at that speed. The good news for you is that the big stroke flaws are usually the easiest to identify and correct. Have a good swimmer or a lifeguard watch you swim for a little while and I guarantee you they'll give you 2-3 tips that can tremendously help your form. The second part which you asked about as far as training. It doesn't have to be complicated. Just swim as much as you can. Probably 2x, or maybe even 5x what you're swimming now. You would probably be best working on shorter sets for now...maybe 8x25m or 4x50m with maybe 10 seconds rest between each 25m and 15 seconds rest between each 50m. Then about 1 minute break between the entire set. Make sure to swim at a good effort though. You should be gasping for air near the end of each set. Keep doing sets like these till you've swam as much as you can for the day (hopefully at least 45-60 minutes) and you should get out of the pool feeling exhausted. While it is important to work on form, don't underestimate the benefits of taxing your cardio system by swimming hard. Yes, your form will deteriorate some when you get tired, but this just means as your swimming fitness improves, your easy effort will become faster...thus you'll be able to maintain your form at a faster pace. And when you swim faster, your body will naturally streamline...thus improving your form even more. Two things that will offer you some help: 1. Mr. Smooth: http://www.swimsmooth.com 2. Sheila Taormina's book: http://www.amazon.com/Swim-Speed-Secrets-Swimmers-Triathletes/dp/1934030880/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374809634&sr=1-1 |
2013-07-26 4:01 PM in reply to: Mellie03 |
34 | Subject: RE: Any super slow swimmers out there? I'm right there with ya, and share your experience! I was at about a 2:30/100 a few months ago and really frustrated that I couldn't get any faster. I tried everything when it came to fixing my form. Finally took a Master's class and the instructor told me I had decent form, but I'm a sinker. Sure enough, I got into a salt water lagoon, stopped treading water, and sank right to the bottom. I'm not sure if this applies to you or not, but a few things really helped me get a little faster with less effort. First, I began to tilt my head up about a 45 degree angle so I was looking more forward and less straight down. This improved my body position in the water so I was creating less drag. Second, I began keeping my elbows high as I pulled. This helped me to exert a little less effort while again reducing drag. I will also agree on the wetsuit thing. Being a "sinker", once my buoyancy was improved with the wetsuit I improved my speed dramatically. With all of the above, I'm now at around a 1:45 - 1:50. Good luck to you! |
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