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 2013-10-04 11:26 AM |
 Seattle |  Subject: My Carbon Monoxide Detector...Has been beeping ALL night! It's approximately every 30 seconds, which I believe (and hope!) means it's a low battery issue. The problem is, it's mounted in our livingroom which is a double height space (with a vaulted ceiling/shed roof) and we don't have a ladder tall enough to reach. I've asked around and may have found someone who has one long enough we can borrow BUT if that doesn't work out, would it be inappropriate to call the (non emergency #) fire department? Or should we maybe contact a contractor? Because of liability issues, people don't just rent out ladders. And we live in the city, with limited storage space so buying a ladder isn't really an option (unless it is our only option?) Any suggestions are welcome! |
| 2013-10-04 11:46 AM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular  5477   LHOTP | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by Asalzwed Has been beeping ALL night! It's approximately every 30 seconds, which I believe (and hope!) means it's a low battery issue. The problem is, it's mounted in our livingroom which is a double height space (with a vaulted ceiling/shed roof) and we don't have a ladder tall enough to reach. I've asked around and may have found someone who has one long enough we can borrow BUT if that doesn't work out, would it be inappropriate to call the (non emergency #) fire department? Or should we maybe contact a contractor? Because of liability issues, people don't just rent out ladders. And we live in the city, with limited storage space so buying a ladder isn't really an option (unless it is our only option?) Any suggestions are welcome! I can't believe I have to help you with this--woman who can turn off the light switch with a nerf football. Real football + carbon monoxide detector = problem solved. Ohhhh, you mean you actually want to have a functioning one? In our town we have a place that rents everything, from glasses and ladders to cherry pickers and back hoes. A contractor may be the simplest route. |
| 2013-10-04 11:46 AM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Use the force! Shoot it with a BB gun? Okay, I really don't have anything constructive to add... |
| 2013-10-04 11:48 AM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Extreme Veteran 1648 | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... I don't have a suggestion on turning it off b/c we once put a step ladder on top of text books on top of our bed to get one in our vaulted bedroom- which worked but was really not safe. I do think Carbon Monoxide is heavy and sinks though- so your detector is supposed to be near the ground- vs. smoke which should be up high. |
| 2013-10-04 11:54 AM in reply to: Moonrocket |
Veteran 513 Chicago (Old Town) | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Home Depot definitely rents tall ladders. |
| 2013-10-04 12:27 PM in reply to: Moonrocket |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by Moonrocket I do think Carbon Monoxide is heavy and sinks though- so your detector is supposed to be near the ground- vs. smoke which should be up high. I just checked this because I was wondering the same thing -- article said that a high placement was recommended because CO would generally be accompanied by hot gases when generated, so it would rise. http://www.homesafe.com/coalert/detect.htm |
| 2013-10-04 12:38 PM in reply to: briderdt |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... knock out the CO detector using method of choice (nerf, football, bb gun) and get a canary? |
| 2013-10-04 12:47 PM in reply to: mehaner |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Buy a ladder... I mean, you don't use them often, but when you need one... Don't get those supper big ones, but the fold up kind. They run about 180 bucks at Sams I think (or any home depot/lowes). They are super slick. They can be step ladder, scaffold, extension ladder all the way out. Google Gorilla latter or similar. What's nice, is they fold up reasonably small, so you don't need to keep a 12" extension latter somewhere. They fit in a closet pretty easily or corner of the garage. |
| 2013-10-04 1:07 PM in reply to: briderdt |
Extreme Veteran 1648 | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by briderdt Originally posted by Moonrocket I do think Carbon Monoxide is heavy and sinks though- so your detector is supposed to be near the ground- vs. smoke which should be up high. I just checked this because I was wondering the same thing -- article said that a high placement was recommended because CO would generally be accompanied by hot gases when generated, so it would rise. http://www.homesafe.com/coalert/detect.htm Wow- thanks! I guess I will look into if we should move ours! Although I don't think we have any plugs above ground level. |
| 2013-10-04 1:10 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by Moonrocket Originally posted by briderdt Wow- thanks! I guess I will look into if we should move ours! Although I don't think we have any plugs above ground level. Originally posted by Moonrocket I do think Carbon Monoxide is heavy and sinks though- so your detector is supposed to be near the ground- vs. smoke which should be up high. I just checked this because I was wondering the same thing -- article said that a high placement was recommended because CO would generally be accompanied by hot gases when generated, so it would rise. http://www.homesafe.com/coalert/detect.htm Well, at least one good thing came out of this torturous morning Edited by Asalzwed 2013-10-04 1:10 PM |
| 2013-10-04 1:15 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Has been beeping ALL night! It's approximately every 30 seconds, which I believe (and hope!) means it's a low battery issue. The problem is, it's mounted in our livingroom which is a double height space (with a vaulted ceiling/shed roof) and we don't have a ladder tall enough to reach. I've asked around and may have found someone who has one long enough we can borrow BUT if that doesn't work out, would it be inappropriate to call the (non emergency #) fire department? Or should we maybe contact a contractor? Because of liability issues, people don't just rent out ladders. And we live in the city, with limited storage space so buying a ladder isn't really an option (unless it is our only option?) Any suggestions are welcome! I can't believe I have to help you with this--woman who can turn off the light switch with a nerf football. Real football + carbon monoxide detector = problem solved. Ohhhh, you mean you actually want to have a functioning one? In our town we have a place that rents everything, from glasses and ladders to cherry pickers and back hoes. A contractor may be the simplest route. Dude, it was a nerf GUN, not football. So, I'll just break out the AK then. We often play a game called "Gunshot or firework?" I suppose it WOULD be nice to give the neighbors a turn. |
| 2013-10-04 1:28 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by Asalzwed Dude, it was a nerf GUN, not football. So, I'll just break out the AK then. We often play a game called "Gunshot or firework?" I suppose it WOULD be nice to give the neighbors a turn. Today I didn't even have use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day. Sorry....couldn't help myself. |
| 2013-10-04 1:31 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Has been beeping ALL night! It's approximately every 30 seconds, which I believe (and hope!) means it's a low battery issue. The problem is, it's mounted in our livingroom which is a double height space (with a vaulted ceiling/shed roof) and we don't have a ladder tall enough to reach. I've asked around and may have found someone who has one long enough we can borrow BUT if that doesn't work out, would it be inappropriate to call the (non emergency #) fire department? Or should we maybe contact a contractor? Because of liability issues, people don't just rent out ladders. And we live in the city, with limited storage space so buying a ladder isn't really an option (unless it is our only option?) Any suggestions are welcome! I can't believe I have to help you with this--woman who can turn off the light switch with a nerf football. Real football + carbon monoxide detector = problem solved. Ohhhh, you mean you actually want to have a functioning one? In our town we have a place that rents everything, from glasses and ladders to cherry pickers and back hoes. A contractor may be the simplest route. Dude, it was a nerf GUN, not football. So, I'll just break out the AK then. We often play a game called "Gunshot or firework?" I suppose it WOULD be nice to give the neighbors a turn. Aaaahhh.... reminds me of our years in Philly. Could tell the difference b/w a 38 and 45 from 5 blocks by the time we moved to the 'burbs (gunshots were waking the kids during naps, and there was no way we were gonna miss "down time"). To the original topic, I won't say that I'm proud of this, but I can vouch for the broomstick method of CO alarm quieting... Especially effective at 0300 or so. Matt |
| 2013-10-04 1:32 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Has been beeping ALL night! It's approximately every 30 seconds, which I believe (and hope!) means it's a low battery issue. The problem is, it's mounted in our livingroom which is a double height space (with a vaulted ceiling/shed roof) and we don't have a ladder tall enough to reach. I've asked around and may have found someone who has one long enough we can borrow BUT if that doesn't work out, would it be inappropriate to call the (non emergency #) fire department? Or should we maybe contact a contractor? Because of liability issues, people don't just rent out ladders. And we live in the city, with limited storage space so buying a ladder isn't really an option (unless it is our only option?) Any suggestions are welcome! I can't believe I have to help you with this--woman who can turn off the light switch with a nerf football. Real football + carbon monoxide detector = problem solved. Ohhhh, you mean you actually want to have a functioning one? In our town we have a place that rents everything, from glasses and ladders to cherry pickers and back hoes. A contractor may be the simplest route. Dude, it was a nerf GUN, not football. So, I'll just break out the AK then. We often play a game called "Gunshot or firework?" I suppose it WOULD be nice to give the neighbors a turn. Aaaahhh.... reminds me of our years in Philly. Could tell the difference b/w a 38 and 45 from 5 blocks by the time we moved to the 'burbs (gunshots were waking the kids during naps, and there was no way we were gonna miss "down time"). To the original topic, I won't say that I'm proud of this, but I can vouch for the broomstick method of CO alarm quieting... Especially effective at 0300 or so. Matt Trust me, I'd broomstick the shyte out of the thing if I had a 22' long broomstick. |
| 2013-10-04 1:40 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Buy a ladder; fix the CO detector; return ladder for full refund once you have decided that you really didn't have much use for the ladder after all. |
| 2013-10-04 1:40 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by Asalzwed aha! They do sell telescoping handle things for paint brushes and light bulb changes. I know they make some that extend to 16' so you on a chair with extending thingy could hit that, so to speak. Those fold up ladders are pretty handy, but I live in a converted barn with 38' ceilings...which reminds me, how "tight" is your space ( your house, that is). Carbon monoxide detector may be superfluous....Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Has been beeping ALL night! It's approximately every 30 seconds, which I believe (and hope!) means it's a low battery issue. The problem is, it's mounted in our livingroom which is a double height space (with a vaulted ceiling/shed roof) and we don't have a ladder tall enough to reach. I've asked around and may have found someone who has one long enough we can borrow BUT if that doesn't work out, would it be inappropriate to call the (non emergency #) fire department? Or should we maybe contact a contractor? Because of liability issues, people don't just rent out ladders. And we live in the city, with limited storage space so buying a ladder isn't really an option (unless it is our only option?) Any suggestions are welcome! I can't believe I have to help you with this--woman who can turn off the light switch with a nerf football. Real football + carbon monoxide detector = problem solved. Ohhhh, you mean you actually want to have a functioning one? In our town we have a place that rents everything, from glasses and ladders to cherry pickers and back hoes. A contractor may be the simplest route. Dude, it was a nerf GUN, not football. So, I'll just break out the AK then. We often play a game called "Gunshot or firework?" I suppose it WOULD be nice to give the neighbors a turn. Aaaahhh.... reminds me of our years in Philly. Could tell the difference b/w a 38 and 45 from 5 blocks by the time we moved to the 'burbs (gunshots were waking the kids during naps, and there was no way we were gonna miss "down time"). To the original topic, I won't say that I'm proud of this, but I can vouch for the broomstick method of CO alarm quieting... Especially effective at 0300 or so. Matt Trust me, I'd broomstick the shyte out of the thing if I had a 22' long broomstick. |
| 2013-10-04 1:40 PM in reply to: briderdt |
Expert 1028 Detroit, MI. Kinda. | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by briderdt Originally posted by Moonrocket I do think Carbon Monoxide is heavy and sinks though- so your detector is supposed to be near the ground- vs. smoke which should be up high. I just checked this because I was wondering the same thing -- article said that a high placement was recommended because CO would generally be accompanied by hot gases when generated, so it would rise. http://www.homesafe.com/coalert/detect.htm I vote for not calling 911. Most fire departments will come out and run their own device to detect CO, and they shouldn't mind doing that if you think you might have a CO issue, but yours is not alarming. It's a battery or malfunction issue and they aren't there to play handyman. As for placement - CO may initially rise with hot gases, but you don't sleep at ceiling height, do you? In fairly short order, all that will cool and the CO will mix pretty homogenously with the rest of the air. Put the doggone thing where you can reach it. Better yet, have two different ones for redundancy. Both where you can reach them. Today I didn't even have use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day. Sorry....couldn't help myself. Love that song. |
| 2013-10-04 1:46 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed aha! They do sell telescoping handle things for paint brushes and light bulb changes. I know they make some that extend to 16' so you on a chair with extending thingy could hit that, so to speak. Those fold up ladders are pretty handy, but I live in a converted barn with 38' ceilings...which reminds me, how "tight" is your space ( your house, that is). Carbon monoxide detector may be superfluous.... Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Has been beeping ALL night! It's approximately every 30 seconds, which I believe (and hope!) means it's a low battery issue. The problem is, it's mounted in our livingroom which is a double height space (with a vaulted ceiling/shed roof) and we don't have a ladder tall enough to reach. I've asked around and may have found someone who has one long enough we can borrow BUT if that doesn't work out, would it be inappropriate to call the (non emergency #) fire department? Or should we maybe contact a contractor? Because of liability issues, people don't just rent out ladders. And we live in the city, with limited storage space so buying a ladder isn't really an option (unless it is our only option?) Any suggestions are welcome! I can't believe I have to help you with this--woman who can turn off the light switch with a nerf football. Real football + carbon monoxide detector = problem solved. Ohhhh, you mean you actually want to have a functioning one? In our town we have a place that rents everything, from glasses and ladders to cherry pickers and back hoes. A contractor may be the simplest route. Dude, it was a nerf GUN, not football. So, I'll just break out the AK then. We often play a game called "Gunshot or firework?" I suppose it WOULD be nice to give the neighbors a turn. Aaaahhh.... reminds me of our years in Philly. Could tell the difference b/w a 38 and 45 from 5 blocks by the time we moved to the 'burbs (gunshots were waking the kids during naps, and there was no way we were gonna miss "down time"). To the original topic, I won't say that I'm proud of this, but I can vouch for the broomstick method of CO alarm quieting... Especially effective at 0300 or so. Matt Trust me, I'd broomstick the shyte out of the thing if I had a 22' long broomstick. We are going to need one of those things soon, too. OK, I just thought of a resource. We have a local 'tool library' here that we are members of. Duh. They have a bunch of ladders, too. Looks like they have the "pole extender" too, for changing light bulbs. The one problem I see though, is that they are pendant lights with CFLs with the pins. So, that probably won't work. So, ladder for that as well! |
| 2013-10-04 2:04 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| 1300 | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Sounds like a good reason to have a party tonight!
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| 2013-10-04 2:25 PM in reply to: MLPFS |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by MLPFS Sounds like a good reason to have a party tonight!
Perfect! Now I'm going to need about 50 of you. Will provide pizza and beer. |
| 2013-10-04 2:56 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Pro 4482 NJ | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... And make sure you put in a "long life" battery replacement. They come in 10 year versions- I think. Easier than renting a ladder next year. Or moving. |
| 2013-10-04 6:22 PM in reply to: kcarroll |
Master 2380 Beijing | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... It's also important to note that CO detectors have a limited lifespan. (about 5-7 years) so if the CO detector is that old, you need to replace the whole detector, not just the battery. |
| 2013-10-05 6:36 AM in reply to: moondawg14 |
Master 1929 Midlothian, VA | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by moondawg14 It's also important to note that CO detectors have a limited lifespan. (about 5-7 years) so if the CO detector is that old, you need to replace the whole detector, not just the battery. I was thinking the same thing about lifespan, and when I looked it up the wiki article pointed out that newer models often come with an alarm to indicate time to change out or test. Note that a test button would test the alarm and battery, but not the actual sensor. Checking the sensor would involve actually using a gas to check for sensitivity. |
| 2013-10-05 8:23 AM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico Bronze member | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Are you sure it is a CO detector and not just a regular smoke detector? They beep like that when the battery gets low too. Given what you have said, once you get it down, you might consider whether to put ANYTHING back up there. If it is a 2-story room with a vaulted ceiling, is there another place (maybe 8-10' up on a wall) that you could mount something? So the top 15' of the room have to fill with smoke before you get an alarm? You still have the bottom 10' of decent air much like you would if the detector were located in a regular room. |
| 2013-10-06 9:54 AM in reply to: briderdt |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: My Carbon Monoxide Detector... Originally posted by briderdt Originally posted by Moonrocket I do think Carbon Monoxide is heavy and sinks though- so your detector is supposed to be near the ground- vs. smoke which should be up high. I just checked this because I was wondering the same thing -- article said that a high placement was recommended because CO would generally be accompanied by hot gases when generated, so it would rise. http://www.homesafe.com/coalert/detect.htm If the carbon monoxide detector is accompanied by hot gasses, I'd assume that other detectors would be going off, and the flames licking at your tushy would put CO low on the SWOT analysis. I think that you want it where it could detect failure without flames. Just a golf pro's opinion. |
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