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2013-11-01 9:14 PM
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I can't remember the names.. Turkey trot, gobbler grind, pilgrims pacer.... I'm doing whichever one is at Corporate Woods.


2013-11-01 9:17 PM
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Thats the gobbler grind. Did the full there last year with Reece and Jayhox. I heard the changed up the course this year, which is good because going up those overpasses and back down did a number on my toenails.
2013-11-01 9:32 PM
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Thats the gobbler grind. Did the full there last year with Reece and Jayhox. I heard the changed up the course this year, which is good because going up those overpasses and back down did a number on my toenails.


Hopefully still flat? That's the sole reason I picked this one.
2013-11-01 9:40 PM
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I remember it being flat, but going from the trail up the overpass and back down to the trail again was really short and steep. A quad and toenail killer.
2013-11-03 5:24 PM
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I believe they've changed it back, at least for the hm
2013-11-10 10:05 PM
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Not really. Miles 7, 8 and 9 are net uphill, most of the gain is mi 7 and 8. It went back to the original course. I plan to come out and race it.


2013-11-11 8:59 PM
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Beautiful course.  TOUGH finish.

 



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2013-11-12 10:20 AM
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Good pics. Hope everyone had a great race.

Gobbler is in 2 weeks and its my first at this distance. I'm a bit nervous. Running is not my strength but was seeing improvements with more volume. The past month I've been battling with an Achilles issue so as the date draws near and my injury persists I'm unsure what to expect. I guess that's just the way it is...everyone battles injuries. I hope it's not too cold, but I doubt we'll get to go sleeveless like Jon.
2013-11-12 3:36 PM
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I just signed up to volunteer. I want to work an aid station but didn't see that on the list so I clicked on "refreshments". Hopefully that's inclusive of aid stations.
2013-11-14 2:57 PM
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I just signed up to volunteer. I want to work an aid station but didn't see that on the list so I clicked on "refreshments". Hopefully that's inclusive of aid stations.


Nope- you are in charge of bringing the beer for the racers!
2013-11-18 9:54 AM
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How do pace groups work? I've never done a pure running event. Is there a pace group for most every time? Is it evident where they start together? Is there one pace leader for the group? (if so, do they attempt to run the same mile pace the entire run?) (On my 1/2 mary training runs my miles 9-12 seem to be much faster than mile 1-3)


2013-11-18 11:54 AM
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With pace groups the first mile is the slowest, the 2nd mile the second slowest, then after the 3rd mile it starts to even out a little. On the smartpacing website you enter in a goal time and it will display the recommended pace for each mile.

I've used pace groups before. For half marathons they ususually start pace groups at 1:30 and go all the way up to 3:00. There's usually two pacers for each goal time, especially the faster groups. I've seen pacers drop down to one at the slower paces (2;25 and slower etc.).

Plug in your goal time on their site, you'll see what I mean.

http://smartpacing.com/index.php
2013-11-18 11:57 AM
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Also,

The pace groups are usually separated by 5 minutes, so 1;30, 1:35, 1:40 etc. they may spread the time longer as the pace gets slower. In many races they will have a "Meet the Pacers" section on the website. They did for the KC Marathon/Half Marathon.
2013-11-21 10:47 AM
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Thanks for the pacing info.

Forecast shows 10 degrees. I've been running in some cold mornings, but not that cold. What is the recommended wardrobe?
2013-11-21 10:56 AM
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When it is that cold, worry about your extremities -- particularly if it is windy.  Full winter cap (not just ear warmers).  Wool socks.  Arm warmers under whatever else you are wearing.  I have neoprene gloves that work miracles in the severe cold.  If you don't have those, wear thinner gloves with rubber surgical gloves over them, then another set of gloves on the outside.  That rubber middle barrier does an amazing job of keeping your fingers warm.  Layer up so that you can strip layers if you find yourself too warm after the first few miles.  If you are under-dressed you can't do anything about it and it could cost you a finish.

2013-11-21 11:21 AM
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When it is that cold, worry about your extremities -- particularly if it is windy.  Full winter cap (not just ear warmers).  Wool socks.  Arm warmers under whatever else you are wearing.  I have neoprene gloves that work miracles in the severe cold.  If you don't have those, wear thinner gloves with rubber surgical gloves over them, then another set of gloves on the outside.  That rubber middle barrier does an amazing job of keeping your fingers warm.  Layer up so that you can strip layers if you find yourself too warm after the first few miles.  If you are under-dressed you can't do anything about it and it could cost you a finish.




Recommendation on a certain kind of wool socks? I have been running in some of my normal low cut running socks, but think I may need to invest in some of these as my feet do tend to get a bit frozen.


2013-11-21 11:24 AM
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Any of the running stores have them.  OR Dick's, etc.  I have some that have a wool blend in them and are very warm yet soft to avoid blisters.  Just look for athletic socks that are wool or have a wool blend.  Mine are longer tube socks for more lower leg warmth.

2013-11-21 2:25 PM
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Yeah it's looking like the temps are going to be LOW! I just hope there's no ice or snow on the trail. I've ran on it before with a little snow and it's pretty slick (obviously). Regardless, it's going to be a rough morning. Hoping for no wind...
2013-11-21 3:02 PM
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If I were running Sunday I would be wearing my craft windstopper top and briefs (keeps the wind from frosting you down stairs).
2013-11-21 4:48 PM
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No pace groups for the race, unless you meet friends. Plan accordingly...
2013-11-22 8:50 AM
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I ran the trail the weekend before last and the bigger issue might be with leaves. There were all over the place with large portions of the trail mostly covered. Hopefully it'll be cleared up, otherwise wet leaves might make it slick.

I'm still having a tough time wrapping my mind around running in (very) cold weather. I haven't had to break out the running tights yet. However, when I hear wool socks + long distance running my immediate reaction is = sweat & chafe. Let's hope that wind forecast stays low.


2013-11-22 9:23 AM
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I ran the Olathe marathon in April 2011 which meant that I had to train through the winter. For socks I got a brand called Smartwool from Gribbles. No issues at all, I wore those in temps that were in the teens for 20 miles, no issues at all.
2013-11-22 9:57 AM
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I ran the Olathe marathon in April 2011 which meant that I had to train through the winter. For socks I got a brand called Smartwool from Gribbles. No issues at all, I wore those in temps that were in the teens for 20 miles, no issues at all.


Hey Reece are those the Smartwoold "PhD" sock? Are they running socks? Smartwool makes tons of different socks...hiking, skiing, "all sports". I know they have running specific socks that are low cut (like all my other running socks) but curious if you knew which one you had.
2013-11-22 10:40 AM
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I don't remember the exact Smartwool type but I followed the advice of the Gribbles person helping me. I'm pretty sure it was a running sock and it wasn't a low low cut sock it came up to where my running tights ended so there was minimal skin exposure to the cold. I was talkng to a running friend of mine that runs serious miles and he buys cheap WOMEN's socks because they're nice and thin which you can wear under the Smartwool socks. Interesting idea. He's run a 1:08 HM and can do sub 16:00 5K's so I usually listen to what he has to say.
2013-11-25 10:44 AM
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Well, I have to say, that run was ok but the cold was pretty awful on my hands. I was geared up pretty well so my whole body felt OK except my fingers. I used a cheap cotton pair of gloves, some rubber gloves and then my neoprene running gloves. At the 4M mark I was pretty sure I was going to lose my fingers. I removed my gloves and the fingers on my right hand had frozen solid. I think I was sweating in them and the rubber held the water right there and it froze. I removed those two bottom layers and held my cotton gloves in my palms and it seemed to be much better. My fingers thawed out and I regained feeling in them.

In the future, I'll definitely get some of those hand warmers to put in my palms and grip (Jon mentioned using a cold pack during heat...same idea). I ran it with my wife and ran along side her the entire way (her first HM since having child #4 one year ago!) and her fingers were fine. She is alot tougher than me though.
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