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2006-07-31 10:32 PM |
Elite 2796 Texas | Subject: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... ...testicles. Therefore the presence of synthethic testosterone in his system is completely normal and just what they expected. Wow. THAT's going to be tough to explain...if it's true. Updated: July 31, 2006, 11:22 PM ET Landis reportedly had synthetic testosterone in system
Edited by RGRBILL 2006-07-31 10:33 PM |
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2006-08-01 5:44 AM in reply to: #498948 |
Elite 2777 In my bunk with new shoes and purple sweats. | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... This does not look good for Landis. Hope he was framed, setup, sabotaged, or just about anything other than dumb enough to use dope while racing. He could have explained the high T/E but synthetic Testosterone is gonna be tough. If he's guilty then he needs to "nut up" and do what Nina did and come clean. She was one of the few who 'fessed up when caught. |
2006-08-01 6:50 AM in reply to: #498948 |
Elite 2552 Evans, GA | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... Pathetic and sad. I feel robbed of the hours I watched the TdF for the first time. I was excited to have a new sport to follow that I participate in for the first time this year as a cycling rookie. I'm no longer sure I want to be a fan. I'm so sick of this theme in sports. If I found out Big Papi did performance inhancing drugs I'd vomit. Same with Papelbon, Ramirez or Varitek. Edited by Bluejack 2006-08-01 6:51 AM |
2006-08-01 7:23 AM in reply to: #499036 |
Pro 4292 Evanston, | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... (Varitek, no way, ever, man. Don't even think such a thing. That guy is all character. OK, and brains and skill. But especially character.) As for Floyd... sad sad sad sad sad! If synthetic testicles is the best thing we can think up, this is NOT good. |
2006-08-01 7:34 AM in reply to: #498948 |
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2006-08-01 7:57 AM in reply to: #498948 |
The Original 7834 Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... I feel the same way about Landis with syntetic testosterone as I didwhen I found out that Milli-Vanilli really did lip synche. I feel so- betrayed. But no really- if it's tue (which I think it is) it really is disappointing. But my question is- if he really did administer synthetic teosterone then wouldn't that stay in his blood for awhile? Why wouldn't his sample from the following stages be positive as well? Did he just find a way to beat the system or has he been framed?? Can't they make him take a polygraph test? Screw the lab results- let's get to the truth! |
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2006-08-01 7:57 AM in reply to: #498948 |
Runner | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... I'm still not 100% convinced for a couple reasons: A) He was tested at how many stages, and none of those came up with anything that set off alarms. If he was taking synthetic steroids, why would he only do it one day, and I doubt that he would show the incredible performance from one day of doping like that. B) We are talking about an agency that, in my mind, has lost a high level of credibility due to the continued attempt to prosecute another winning American (Armstrong), without success. Honestly, the ICU and TdF people are doing nothing by constantly going after the winners. Besides, they gave the authorization to Landis to use thyroid medication and Cortisone shots during the race. It's gonna be tough for him to prove the possible source of synthetic steroids, even if he is innocent of intentionally doping. C) The news source is the NYT, another agency that has had a poor track record recently when it comes to fact-checking. |
2006-08-01 1:48 PM in reply to: #498948 |
Expert 834 Medina, MN | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... The thing that I keep coming back to is that he had been tested earlier in the tour and there hadn't been any issues. That implies that he took testosterone mid-tour, but I think most of the stuff I've read says that testosterone would only possibly help you if you used it for an extended period of time during training. So I tend to think he was somehow set up, as it just doesn't make any sense to me otherwise. What am I missing? |
2006-08-01 2:18 PM in reply to: #499653 |
The Original 7834 Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... MLJ - 2006-08-01 2:48 PM The thing that I keep coming back to is that he had been tested earlier in the tour and there hadn't been any issues. That implies that he took testosterone mid-tour, but I think most of the stuff I've read says that testosterone would only possibly help you if you used it for an extended period of time during training. So I tend to think he was somehow set up, as it just doesn't make any sense to me otherwise. What am I missing? I'm with you- I'm just as confused. It just doesn't add up!?! Edited by runnergirl29 2006-08-01 2:18 PM |
2006-08-01 2:21 PM in reply to: #498948 |
Veteran 288 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... ...Maybe Jack Dan. has sythetic test in it? That would explain some of the people i use to know in college. |
2006-08-01 5:56 PM in reply to: #499104 |
Elite 3650 Laurium, MI | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... Scout7 - 2006-08-01 6:57 AM I'm still not 100% convinced for a couple reasons: A) He was tested at how many stages, and none of those came up with anything that set off alarms. If he was taking synthetic steroids, why would he only do it one day, and I doubt that he would show the incredible performance from one day of doping like that. B) We are talking about an agency that, in my mind, has lost a high level of credibility due to the continued attempt to prosecute another winning American (Armstrong), without success. Honestly, the ICU and TdF people are doing nothing by constantly going after the winners. Besides, they gave the authorization to Landis to use thyroid medication and Cortisone shots during the race. It's gonna be tough for him to prove the possible source of synthetic steroids, even if he is innocent of intentionally doping. C) The news source is the NYT, another agency that has had a poor track record recently when it comes to fact-checking. that's what I'm thinking too. I'm not entirely convinced over their "source" either. If their source is credible, then what does that say for the security measures of the lab doing the testing? If as a researcher, I were to conduct a trial in the same fashion this lab is drug testing, and write a paper on it to be published, not only would it not pass the review process, but I would be laughed out of the scientific community as a whole. maybe some medical professionals can answer this. How accurate is the radio-carbon isotope testing? I'm curious as to what range is considered "synthetic", what the error involved is and where on this scale floyd's test lies. Was all the "extra" test synthetic, or were his normal levels elevated naturally and he had just enough syn in his system from his meds to trip the system? Edited by vortmax 2006-08-01 6:01 PM |
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2006-08-02 9:15 PM in reply to: #498948 |
Veteran 288 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... Another intersting point i heard mentioned- Landis's ration was 11:1 where 4:1 is seen as illegal. Anyone who knows what they are doing would be smart enough to keep the ratio low. The guy who was interview that mentioned the weird ratio said that its very easy to keep it just under 4:1 and that many do that. 11:1 seems pretty high. |
2006-08-03 7:11 AM in reply to: #499103 |
molto veloce mama 9311 | Subject: RE: Maybe Floyd Has Synthetic.... runnergirl29 - 2006-08-01 7:57 AM I feel the same way about Landis with syntetic testosterone as I didwhen I found out that Milli-Vanilli really did lip synche. I feel so- betrayed. bless you for a moment of humor in all this! okay, synthetic testicles was funny too, but this one really made me laugh! |