Training Pace vs Tri Pace
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2014-02-23 11:05 AM |
201 Hereford, England | Subject: Training Pace vs Tri Pace Hi. I'm just wondering how people's training pace or on offs compares with their tri times? My tri swim is 320m (and in July), and on my last swim I did 5 x 325m in 5min5sec - 5min20sec. I'm just wondering, as I could probably do a one off 325m in about 4min30ish, what time should I be looking at for my tri? 10% more? 20% more? Any thoughts? Same with the bike and run, what type of percentage extra do you do in a tri compared with a one off? Thanks |
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2014-02-23 11:40 AM in reply to: Eucid |
Member 73 Daphne, AL | Subject: RE: Training Pace vs Tri Pace For me a big part of it while have to do with what distance race you're doing. When I was training for my HIM last year I raced at the same pace I trained at. The longer the race the closer to race pace. For a sprint distance my swims training times are ~1:40 per 100yd, race pace is 1:30ish. Ride training pace is anywhere from 19-21mph but race pace is 22. Run paces range from 8:30-7:30 min/mile but race pace run would be ~6:50 min/mile (ideally faster). |
2014-02-23 11:53 PM in reply to: Eucid |
Veteran 187 Boulder, Colorado | Subject: RE: Training Pace vs Tri Pace You need to find your lactate threshold paces for s/b/r and threshold heart rate for b/r and then go off that. For an hour race, you will want to s/b/r approximately at that threshold. All of your training should then be done at certain percentages of that determined threshold depending on goals, experience, fitness, and how your body responds to that training. |
2014-02-24 6:15 PM in reply to: Eucid |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Training Pace vs Tri Pace Originally posted by Eucid Hi. I'm just wondering how people's training pace or on offs compares with their tri times? My tri swim is 320m (and in July), and on my last swim I did 5 x 325m in 5min5sec - 5min20sec. I'm just wondering, as I could probably do a one off 325m in about 4min30ish, what time should I be looking at for my tri? 10% more? 20% more? Any thoughts? Same with the bike and run, what type of percentage extra do you do in a tri compared with a one off? Thanks I would stick with your effort for the 5 min 325 since you'll be needing to do a bike right after. sure you could be 30 seconds faster, but I bet you can pick up 30 seconds much easier on your bike and still enjoy the swim. As for how much extra, you'd need to simply do some test bricks or race simulations and see how an all out 325 (which really isn't that far) affects your transition & bike, and if your HR settles down during the bike. If this is a sprint as I'm guessing b/c the swim is so short, you'll probabaly be at or over threshold the entire time anyway. So...go for it! Longer races are a much different story |
2014-02-24 6:51 PM in reply to: Eucid |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Training Pace vs Tri Pace Originally posted by Eucid Hi. I'm just wondering how people's training pace or on offs compares with their tri times? My tri swim is 320m (and in July), and on my last swim I did 5 x 325m in 5min5sec - 5min20sec. I'm just wondering, as I could probably do a one off 325m in about 4min30ish, what time should I be looking at for my tri? 10% more? 20% more? Any thoughts? Same with the bike and run, what type of percentage extra do you do in a tri compared with a one off? Thanks If it's a sprint race just go as hard as you can until your eyes fill up with lactate and you feel like you are going to keel over. Once you are at that spot.....hold until the finish line, then you can collapse. |
2014-02-25 12:24 AM in reply to: Eucid |
201 Hereford, England | Subject: RE: Training Pace vs Tri Pace Yeah it's a sprint, 400yard swim, 10 mile bike, 3 mile run, and aiming for under 1 hour (but that ma be ambitious). It's just a local club tri. So basically go off set off hard, stay at 100%, wait till after the line to die. I actually chuckled to myself with that advice! Thanks guys! |
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