Animal protein consumption and longevity

http://wellnessmama.com/3684/is-soy-healthy/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/soy-health_b_1822466.html

I follow a mostly paleo/primal diet.  You can find research to support and deny any diet/lifestyle choices people may follow.  I make an attempt to buy the cleanest real food I can, including organic, non GMO.  I'm doing my best to remove the chemicals from my food.

I'm pretty sure that it impacts the longevity of the animals as well.  

You're probably right.  I guess there's something to be said for moderation.  I've typically only used the whey during higher volume training on occasion, and I've never taken more than a scoop at the most.  Maybe that could be cut to a max half scoop and blended with soy protein.  I could probably do a lot of other constructive things with my diet that would have a bigger impact on health than this, anyway.

Is it wrong that there are people who think like this?   like US!  lol

BTW, Your seats too high!

"Saliva causes cancer, but only if swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time."

-George Carlin

Soy is also problematic for anyone with thyroid issues.  I avoid it because it might interfere with absorption my thyroid medication.  I have a hard enough time keeping my thyroid levels regulated without adding in complications from soy.

I don't get what all the fuss is over GMO foods.  In fact, one of my goals for 2014 is to become Roundup Ready.  I think GMO soy protein will fit perfectly into my plan for the year. 

In all seriousness, I appreciate the many different perspectives and information that get presented in these sorts of threads.  I'd not previously considered the other options for plant-based protein powders.  And it's high time I start looking at mixing in some better food options for dinners since I am doing more of the weekday dinners for the family now.  I've got one kid who will eat anything, and in fact, prefers lots of fruit and vegetables.  Then I've got one uber-picky eater who refuses to venture far of the processed food path.

Indeed, a lot of good discussion in this thread.

I eat vegan (+ honey ... not much of a "moral" vegan, rather a dietary one) whole foods when I'm in structured training. It works for me.

Soy is a lot of different things. If you're taking it as protein in a supplement or powder, that is a whole different ballgame than eating edamame and even more so than eating fermented soy foods such as tempeh. From a supplement rather than a whole-foods perspective, if you don't have any specific condition making you lean more toward one than the other, I'm not sure it matters that much.

If eating meat leads to early death I've got about a week left.  Give me steak, and pork, and chicken, and turkey, and venison, and duck, and lamb!!