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2014-04-11 8:17 AM

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Subject: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar

Jordan Rapp makes some excellent points on why you should own a road bike along with your tri bike. Agree 1000%

http://blog.rappstar.com/2014/04/why-triathletes-need-road-bike.html



2014-04-11 8:53 AM
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I also agree. Not only because I'm firmly in the n+1 mentality. 

2014-04-11 9:17 AM
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Crazy how an article from years ago can reignite like wildfire in less then 24 hours.
2014-04-11 9:19 AM
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I don't know that I am following his points
- If you ride in groups you should be on a road bike - I agree
- If you are on a tri bike and not in aero you would be better off on a road bike - I agree

The counter to this is don't ride in groups and you should be in aero when ever possible on the tri bike. (it seems that there is a % of people that not only do they not ride in groups they get most of their miles on the trainer to avoid traffic)

Is he trying to make the point that you should train on a roadbike because of additional riding positions, but race on the tri bike? I would think the lack of practice on the tri bike would hurt.

full disclosure : I have a road bike and not a tri bike
2014-04-11 9:35 AM
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Subject: RE: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar
what he is saying is....


riding on your road bike is the same position as been on your aerobar....that is true. angles are the same, you are simply rotated around the BB.

riding on the hoods of your TT bike is what lots of age group do....because they are tired or in a group. The minute you are on the hood of your TT bike, you would be better off riding a road bike as it s much more specific to your time trial position.

comfusing for many, but it s very true.
2014-04-11 9:42 AM
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Subject: RE: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar

Originally posted by bcagle25 Crazy how an article from years ago can reignite like wildfire in less then 24 hours.

I don't know if I'd consider a thread on ST and one here as "reignite like wildfire". Was it on the evening news?

But seriously, I enjoyed it. I'd always heard the arguments about group rides and such, but didn't know about the geometry on a road bike being closer to a tri bike than riding a tri bike out of aero. Good stuff.

 



2014-04-11 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by zed707

Originally posted by bcagle25 Crazy how an article from years ago can reignite like wildfire in less then 24 hours.

I don't know if I'd consider a thread on ST and one here as "reignite like wildfire". Was it on the evening news?

But seriously, I enjoyed it. I'd always heard the arguments about group rides and such, but didn't know about the geometry on a road bike being closer to a tri bike than riding a tri bike out of aero. Good stuff.

 




No, but that article was written a few years ago. Someone tweeted it yesterday (can't remember who), and hours later that was all I saw on social media.
2014-04-11 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by jonnyo

what he is saying is....


riding on your road bike is the same position as been on your aerobar....that is true. angles are the same, you are simply rotated around the BB.

riding on the hoods of your TT bike is what lots of age group do....because they are tired or in a group. The minute you are on the hood of your TT bike, you would be better off riding a road bike as it s much more specific to your time trial position.

comfusing for many, but it s very true.


Was trying to figure out how to reply and you said it perfectly.

The only time I am on my hoods on my TT bike is between intervals or early/late parts of the wu cd.

My choice of ride between road/TT is similar to training, very general in the early stages, very specific the closer to the race.
2014-04-11 10:37 AM
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Subject: RE: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar

Originally posted by bcagle25 Crazy how an article from years ago can reignite like wildfire in less then 24 hours.

I take credit for getting him to repost it!

2014-04-11 11:27 AM
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Subject: RE: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar

Originally posted by bcagle25
Originally posted by zed707

Originally posted by bcagle25 Crazy how an article from years ago can reignite like wildfire in less then 24 hours.

I don't know if I'd consider a thread on ST and one here as "reignite like wildfire". Was it on the evening news?

But seriously, I enjoyed it. I'd always heard the arguments about group rides and such, but didn't know about the geometry on a road bike being closer to a tri bike than riding a tri bike out of aero. Good stuff.

 

No, but that article was written a few years ago. Someone tweeted it yesterday (can't remember who), and hours later that was all I saw on social media.
Jordan reposted it to his Facebook page yesterday after something happened to it on his Specialized page.

2014-04-11 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar

I've got a roadie and a TT bike.  I never use my roadie any more- it sits on the trainer, which went unused this winter.

Jordan forgot about Di2.  since my TT bike has Di2- I have dual position shifters.  So, I can shift and brake from the hoods and use it safely when riding in groups.  

Although- 80% of my riding is solo.  (early morning- out my front door)

And- I'm really a runner and swimmer more than a cyclist.

so maybe I shouldn't have bothered reading past paragraph 1.

 

but yeah, everyone needs at least 3 bikes.

 



2014-04-11 12:13 PM
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Subject: RE: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar
While you are probably the best fit for the 1st paragraph opt-out...the point remains that for those 20% in a group ride, having road bike geometry would be better than riding your tri-bike.
2014-04-11 1:05 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by bcagle25
Originally posted by zed707

Originally posted by bcagle25 Crazy how an article from years ago can reignite like wildfire in less then 24 hours.

I don't know if I'd consider a thread on ST and one here as "reignite like wildfire". Was it on the evening news?

But seriously, I enjoyed it. I'd always heard the arguments about group rides and such, but didn't know about the geometry on a road bike being closer to a tri bike than riding a tri bike out of aero. Good stuff.

 

No, but that article was written a few years ago. Someone tweeted it yesterday (can't remember who), and hours later that was all I saw on social media.
Jordan reposted it to his Facebook page yesterday after something happened to it on his Specialized page.




Correct, after the massive retweets and FB posting of the specialized article back in 2010.
2014-04-11 1:40 PM
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I much rather ride my road bike in training.  I don't care if you gave me a $30k tri bike that had mind control shifting...I still rather ride my CAAD10 for training.  So much more versatile in terms of handling, cornering, accelerations, climbing, and descending.

2014-04-11 2:08 PM
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Originally posted by Jason N

I much rather ride my road bike in training.  I don't care if you gave me a $30k tri bike that had mind control shifting...I still rather ride my CAAD10 for training.  So much more versatile in terms of handling, cornering, accelerations, climbing, and descending.

 

If there's one bike that I've heard great things about more than any other... it's the CAAAD10.  Gotta' try one of them some day.

2014-04-11 2:18 PM
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Subject: RE: why triathletes need a road bike by Rappstar

Originally posted by Jason N

I much rather ride my road bike in training.  I don't care if you gave me a $30k tri bike that had mind control shifting...I still rather ride my CAAD10 for training.  So much more versatile in terms of handling, cornering, accelerations, climbing, and descending.

Gotta agree. I used to be a tri bike only kind of guy, then I got into group rides and now I have to force myself to ride the tri bike. I have a 70 miler tomorrow morning, I really want to ride the roadie but I know I need some T.I.T.S. on the tri bike before my IM in June.



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