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2014-07-07 2:48 PM |
23 | Subject: Best upgrade for bike and gear? New to triathlon but I have a decent entry level road bike I bought new 3 months ago and its all stock. I was wonder what upgrades can I make to the bike and my gear that will improve performance without breaking the bank? I did get a pair of bike shoes but haven't got around to the pedals just yet.(being clipped in makes me a bit nervous) thanks for replies in advance!!! |
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2014-07-07 2:50 PM in reply to: rodzilla |
201 Hereford, England | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Aero bars, tri suit, elastic laces. |
2014-07-07 2:53 PM in reply to: Eucid |
New user 39 , Indiana | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Tight tri-type clothing, clip type pedals and shoes, aero bars, aero helmet, then finally aero bike. |
2014-07-07 4:38 PM in reply to: rodzilla |
Member 622 Franklin, TN | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? x2 on everything above. For the bike... Go ahead and commit to the clipless bike shoes and pedals. The stiffer platform is more efficient and will be easier on the arches of your foot. You can get away with pedalling with your running shoes for short races but I think your feet will be happier if you make the switch. I would get a professional fitting on your existing bike before slapping on a pair of aero bars...ask the fitter what adjustments he would suggest if you added aero bars. Using aero bars on a road bike requires a compromise in your fitting and a professional fitter can give you the +/-'s adding the bars. What he will probably tell you is that if you're fit properly on your road bike and you add the aero bars, you'll gain some aeroness but lose some power & comfort since your hip angle will be a bit closed. An aero helmet will save time. I don't have one yet but it's on the "to get" list. Continental GP4000s tires with latex tubes will run faster than most other clincher tire setups. Probikekit.com usually has some good prices on the Conti's. A water bottle is going to be more aero between the aero bars (if you go with that setup), less so on the down tube, and even less so on the seat tube. For the run... Get a running belt to attach your bib...they're cheap (probably $5-$15 at most running stores). |
2014-07-07 4:50 PM in reply to: rodzilla |
1055 | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Indoor trainer. . . $10/mo. subscription to Trainerroad. Well, maybe wait till winter, riding inside during the summer sucks. Don't worry about upgrades, if your new, the best upgrading you can do is to your own body/engine. All that other stuff saves seconds, engine upgrades save minutes. Make sure you have good clothing to train in, ie. cycling shorts/bibs and a jersey or two. Ok, that said, do get the pedals and shoes, they are a must. |
2014-07-08 9:20 AM in reply to: ziggie204 |
788 Across the river from Memphis, Tennessee | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? +infinity on the clipless. I've been on flat pedals since I started seriously biking last year. Went to a clipless setup last week and the jump in power was amazing. My first ride was the weekly group ride I join, and I had a TON of gas left in the tank at the end. My top end sprint also jumped from about 24mph to 26mph (need bigger big ring). With the aerobars, I would ask while being fitted. Also having the stuff on board to change/repair a flat would be a good idea for longer rides in general. |
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2014-07-08 9:49 AM in reply to: rodzilla |
Expert 2192 Greenville, SC | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. |
2014-07-08 10:07 AM in reply to: rodzilla |
Master 2406 Bellevue, WA | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Your first upgrade should be clipless pedals. These days I strongly recommend Speedplay for ease of entry/exit, short learning curve, dual sided. |
2014-07-08 12:18 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Edited by Left Brain 2014-07-08 12:18 PM |
2014-07-08 2:50 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Member 1748 Exton, PA | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities |
2014-07-08 2:54 PM in reply to: rodzilla |
201 Hereford, England | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Question to the OP - In the next 2-3 years, are you going to be able to buy a TT bike? If you are, just work on your engine. If, like me, you wont be buying a TT bike in the next few years (or ever), I'd look for ways to upgrade the bike. |
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2014-07-08 3:19 PM in reply to: Eucid |
Champion 10018 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? You mentioned you already got shoes... are they "tri specific shoes"? One HUGE difference is shoes you can stick your feet in, wet and sockless, and feel comfortable. One strap. These are shoes you can wear for general riding and don't look strange for a casual ride, but are priceless during a triathlon. If you can trade, I would. I'm a fan of clip-on aerobars. I know there's a whole thing about having it fit right, etc. In my experience putting on the bar, even if ill-fitting, improved my bike time and pleasure immensely. |
2014-07-08 3:23 PM in reply to: mike761 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL |
2014-07-08 3:31 PM in reply to: #5022579 |
23 | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Well I don't think they tri shoes but I can take the time to dry my feet and put on socks..I'm not elite by any account and I don't care much about PRs..I honestly don't even know exactly what my PRs even are for running..under 4 for 26.2 and under 1:50 for 13.1 is as close as I care..that being said I do want double sided clip pedals but I have no idea what I'm buying...maybe u guys can help? I bought a pair of "giro treble" shoes..they have 3holes on bottom and someone said "look" pedals will work will 3hole shoes? |
2014-07-08 3:52 PM in reply to: rodzilla |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? The "train more" answers always make me chuckle... The question is was not how to get faster, it was the best upgrade... So, if I just got money to burn, and want to buy some speed, what's the harm of spending money - I shouldn't and just train more? If I can "buy" speed at whatever level of fitness I have or training level, why not? Interesting how pros don't ride huffy bikes with loose clothing instead of working of fitness. They have the fastest equipment AND work on the engine. Mutually exclusive.
For the OP. You HAVE to go clipless. It may take a moment to learn, but it's basically essential and FAR more efficient. I can't even contemplate riding without them. In order for bang for your buck, IMO? Tight cycling clothes - go with bibs, BTW. That's the other thing I would never go back from. An earo helmet would buy you a couple seconds over 40k IF you are in earo in the first place. They don't have as much of an impact if you are sitting up. Invest in light tool kit and inflator. Less weight on the bike/more earo bag. Some higher TPI tires and latex tubes. Quick, but expensive and wear out fast. Race wheels/lighter training wheels. Investing in a proper fit is not really an upgrade, but could help with speed. I'm 50/50 on setting up the road bike with earo bars. Riding in the drops is probably just as effective.
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2014-07-08 4:48 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Extreme Veteran 2261 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL I have ITU clip-ons on my my roadie. You mad, bro?! |
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2014-07-08 5:24 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL I have ITU clip-ons on my my roadie. You mad, bro?! Nah.....but you don't need them. You won't be any faster in a draft legal race with them. Edited by Left Brain 2014-07-08 5:25 PM |
2014-07-08 9:04 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
New user 121 Green Bay, WI | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Clip in pedals, aero bars(for me they make a big difference on my roadie, I still ride in them a ton even though I now have a tri bike) elastic laces are awesome and cheap. Seat bag for tube, co2, tools. If you want to spend some cash power meter, aero wheels, wetsuit. |
2014-07-08 9:24 PM in reply to: 0 |
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2014-07-08 9:53 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Expert 1202 Montana | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL I have ITU clip-ons on my my roadie. You mad, bro?! Nah.....but you don't need them. You won't be any faster in a draft legal race with them. I put aero bars on my bike because I ride long distances and craved another position for cruising. I love having the extra position as an option. |
2014-07-08 10:08 PM in reply to: Shoeless |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Shoeless Originally posted by Left Brain I put aero bars on my bike because I ride long distances and craved another position for cruising. I love having the extra position as an option. Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL I have ITU clip-ons on my my roadie. You mad, bro?! Nah.....but you don't need them. You won't be any faster in a draft legal race with them. Be honest....what percentage of the time do you ride on your drops? |
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2014-07-08 10:27 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Expert 1202 Montana | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Shoeless Originally posted by Left Brain I put aero bars on my bike because I ride long distances and craved another position for cruising. I love having the extra position as an option. Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL I have ITU clip-ons on my my roadie. You mad, bro?! Nah.....but you don't need them. You won't be any faster in a draft legal race with them. Be honest....what percentage of the time do you ride on your drops? I'm about 25% in the drops, 45% on the hoods, and 30% in aero. |
2014-07-08 11:09 PM in reply to: Shoeless |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Shoeless Originally posted by Left Brain I'm about 25% in the drops, 45% on the hoods, and 30% in aero. Originally posted by Shoeless Originally posted by Left Brain I put aero bars on my bike because I ride long distances and craved another position for cruising. I love having the extra position as an option. Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL I have ITU clip-ons on my my roadie. You mad, bro?! Nah.....but you don't need them. You won't be any faster in a draft legal race with them. Be honest....what percentage of the time do you ride on your drops? You will become a better cyclist if you ride more in the drops and less in "aero".....that's my only point. Thanks for being honest. It's hard to ride there, but it's valuable. I'm sure it's my own pet peeve, but I think the "triathlon community" does new riders a disservice recommending aero bars (AMONG OTHER THINGS.) So many people can barely handle a bike as it is. Learn to ride and handle your bike, then learn to ride it faster, THEN get the "free speed". Triathlon should be a process.....it leads to a lifestyle instead of burnout, which is SO prevalent and unfortunate. |
2014-07-08 11:54 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1202 Montana | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Shoeless Originally posted by Left Brain I'm about 25% in the drops, 45% on the hoods, and 30% in aero. Originally posted by Shoeless Originally posted by Left Brain I put aero bars on my bike because I ride long distances and craved another position for cruising. I love having the extra position as an option. Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by Left Brain In 1989 Greg Lemond put some aero bars on his road bike, he seemed to be able to ride his bike to its capabilities Originally posted by Clempson Don't upgrade anything on the bike, and I don't consider shoes/pedals an upgrade so much as a necessary expense when getting a bike... kind of like a helmet. just invest in a good bike fitting and get a few good cycling kits for training. best thing to do is ride your bike often and hard. ^This And.......the last thing I would ever put on a road bike is "aero bars". Wait, let me rephrase....I would NEVER put "aero bars" on a road bike. It's not exaggerating to say that everybody who does can't even ride their road bike to it's fullest capabilities yet.....and once you get close, get a TT bike. Cool, you found one guy...and a multiple Tour champion to boot. LOL I have ITU clip-ons on my my roadie. You mad, bro?! Nah.....but you don't need them. You won't be any faster in a draft legal race with them. Be honest....what percentage of the time do you ride on your drops? You will become a better cyclist if you ride more in the drops and less in "aero".....that's my only point. Thanks for being honest. It's hard to ride there, but it's valuable. I'm sure it's my own pet peeve, but I think the "triathlon community" does new riders a disservice recommending aero bars (AMONG OTHER THINGS.) So many people can barely handle a bike as it is. Learn to ride and handle your bike, then learn to ride it faster, THEN get the "free speed". Triathlon should be a process.....it leads to a lifestyle instead of burnout, which is SO prevalent and unfortunate. I get your point as a general rule that perhaps aero bars are recommended too readily to a new cyclist, but you cast a blanket statement that anyone who ever puts aero bars on a roadie doesn't know how to ride. I'm a recreational triathlete, keeps me fit, but I'm confident I have very good bike handling skills; and I don't want to waste money on a TT bike for myself since I will never be an elite type. I race to train, I don't train to race. Edited by Shoeless 2014-07-08 11:55 PM |
2014-07-09 5:20 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Best upgrade for bike and gear? I usually don't agree with Left Brain, but partially, I do on this one… Partially though… :-) Slapping a pair of aero bars on a road bike then starting to mock with the fit to make you fit to the aero bars (forward seat posts, moving seat position, shorting the stem, etc. etc. etc) is not good and will screw with your ability to ride efficiently. BUT, you can add aero bars to a road bike, just maintain your road position and then add aero bars that can be fitted to YOU, not the other way around. ITU (aka "shortie") bars are specifically designed for this. Riding in the drops is something that everyone should do. This is especially important during descending as your will have a lower point of gravity, more leverage for the brake levers, and overall better balance. I think part of the problem is that many set up their bikes to be comfortable on the hoods, which means that they never start to ride in the drops. Once you've been fitted, most will ride the drops as much as possible, just because of comfort. I probably ride the drops about 80% of the time, only getting on the hoods or on the handlebars during longer climbs. Short climbs, I'm always in the drops. Been riding like that since I started racing bikes in the 80's... |
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