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 2014-10-16 1:33 PM |
Expert  1258    Marin County, California |  Subject: Foot issueThis is a shot in the dark, but figure it can't hurt! Some background: With IM Lake Tahoe cancelled I'm back to solely being an ultra runner. During my IM build I was run heavy regularly putting in 75-80 mile run weeks. In early June after a 50k that I raced hard, in between where the plantar fascia and the side of my heal I developed something that feels like a stone bruise, except when I walk or run, once the area warms up its pain free(unless I push on it) for however long I go. I have zero issues doing a 30 mile run, it just takes about half a mile or so to go away. After it tightens back up, its sore, but not any worse, if I give it a massage/roll on a ball it eases substantially. In general it feels like a tendon or muscle being pulled when I walk. Just FYI before the 'its plantar fasciitis,' feedback: I've seen 2 Active Release Therapists, a deep massage therapist AND a podiatrist. Its not PF, nor is it a bone spur. No body can seem to give me a clear diagnosis. One ART lady said it was a band of scar tissue that needs to be broken up, the other couldn't feel anything and said it was referred pain stemming from tight calves, the CMT fixed the tight calves but couldn't feel anything in my foot. The podiatrist did an x-ray and offered orthotics. I 'did' find out my work shoes were waaaaaay too wide/big for my bony/skinny feet, so recently got a pair of well fitted Red Wings with Superfeet inserts, because it could be from work shoes and not running? Any thoughts? Guesses? Edited by LittleCat 2014-10-16 1:35 PM |
| 2014-10-16 5:42 PM in reply to: LittleCat |
| 48 Los Angeles, California | Subject: RE: Foot issue have you actually tried giving it a break? ligaments and tendons don't heal fast especially in such a blood deprived area as foot. if it's not superpainful I'd try gentle stretching of that area through the day, not just 5min with massage ball but trying to stretch that area wherever you are and whatever you do by putting your attention on stretching that specific spot? if you say pain goes away after it's warmed up I'd try warming up the foot in hot water/sauna and then stretching (a-la bikram yoga  ) they do say fascia is like honey, hard when it's cold and melting when hot, so might be worth a try. alternatively I'd try just the opposite trying to activate that area more. not to get too esoteric here but tai chi people talk about the direction of "energy flow" in the body and in the foot area it'd go down the top of the foot to big toe, from big toe to pinky, from pinky on the bottom of the foot to heel and up the inner thigh. I wouldn't claim I know exactly what happens in the body when you put your attention to such "energy flows" but focusing on that helped me deal with pretty bad foot cramps after I broke my metatarsal bone a few years ago. |
| 2014-10-16 6:50 PM in reply to: LittleCat |
| 80 naperville, Illinois | Subject: RE: Foot issue I had a similar issue a couple years back. I ended up going to the acupuncturist - it was like their was a pocket of air or something in my foot and one poke with a big needle, never a problem again .... mind you, I don't generally find an acupuncturist that helpful for most things, but this type of thing, worth a try ..... for me, it was the miracle the ARTs and docs couldn't give me |
| 2014-10-17 1:49 PM in reply to: LittleCat |
Master 2855  Kailua, Hawaii | Subject: RE: Foot issue sounds like what I was dealing with ! I assume the pain is on the inside of the heel. I fought this problem for a long time, and the only thing that seemed to get rid of it was wearing the boot for a few months. I also attribute the healing from wearing Hoka's with Superfeet inserts. The cushion helped lessen the trauma and the Superfeet helped stabilize the heal during running. My layman's theory is that I had small tears in the connective tissue to the heel bone, and would not properly heal because it would re-tear from either sleeping without support, or running without support. I was worried that my IM long run training would rip it apart, but surprisingly it got better through the training. I stuck to the Hoka's and boot. And the final test was the actual race, which was last Sat. I am happy to say it held, and I am walking around no heal pain, no stiffness. |
| 2014-10-17 8:13 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1258 Marin County, California | Subject: RE: Foot issue Originally posted by metafizx sounds like what I was dealing with ! I assume the pain is on the inside of the heel. I fought this problem for a long time, and the only thing that seemed to get rid of it was wearing the boot for a few months. I also attribute the healing from wearing Hoka's with Superfeet inserts. The cushion helped lessen the trauma and the Superfeet helped stabilize the heal during running. My layman's theory is that I had small tears in the connective tissue to the heel bone, and would not properly heal because it would re-tear from either sleeping without support, or running without support. I was worried that my IM long run training would rip it apart, but surprisingly it got better through the training. I stuck to the Hoka's and boot. And the final test was the actual race, which was last Sat. I am happy to say it held, and I am walking around no heal pain, no stiffness. This sounds about right. Its literally in one spot. And over night pulling my foot up, its tight. I've been in Hokas since spring, I 'think' the zero drop shoes I was wearing contributed to whatever this is. Question, I'm assuming the boot was at night? How were the Superfeet in the Hokas? I have a light insert in them, Superfeet in my work shoes. I'll try them in the Hokas. Thanks for the info! Edited by LittleCat 2014-10-17 8:15 PM |
| 2014-10-18 1:16 PM in reply to: LittleCat |
Master 2855 Kailua, Hawaii | Subject: RE: Foot issue Originally posted by LittleCat Originally posted by metafizx sounds like what I was dealing with ! I assume the pain is on the inside of the heel. I fought this problem for a long time, and the only thing that seemed to get rid of it was wearing the boot for a few months. I also attribute the healing from wearing Hoka's with Superfeet inserts. The cushion helped lessen the trauma and the Superfeet helped stabilize the heal during running. My layman's theory is that I had small tears in the connective tissue to the heel bone, and would not properly heal because it would re-tear from either sleeping without support, or running without support. I was worried that my IM long run training would rip it apart, but surprisingly it got better through the training. I stuck to the Hoka's and boot. And the final test was the actual race, which was last Sat. I am happy to say it held, and I am walking around no heal pain, no stiffness. This sounds about right. Its literally in one spot. And over night pulling my foot up, its tight. I've been in Hokas since spring, I 'think' the zero drop shoes I was wearing contributed to whatever this is. Question, I'm assuming the boot was at night? How were the Superfeet in the Hokas? I have a light insert in them, Superfeet in my work shoes. I'll try them in the Hokas. Thanks for the info! Yes boot at night. Superfeet worked great in the Hoka's...I have the "Orange" which is a one step down from the "Green". Hoka's by themselves were ok, but lacked support and on the long runs, the heel would get aggravated. Once I started with the Superfeet, I didn't have any more problems. |
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