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2006-08-22 12:09 AM

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Subject: naysayers
Nobody at work, friends, or family (Except my mom and my wife) take me seriously when I say I am working toward a triathlon.  They all give me the look and then "good luck buddy"  I know they are thinking, "yeah right chubby.."  It is like everyone is expecting me to fail.   Anyone else deal with this?  I try to use it as a motivator, but I stopped telling people for this reason.  


2006-08-22 12:13 AM
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Yeah...just tonight I got "So when is your little marathon, Cindy?" while at work.  Never mind that the woman who said it is normally good hearted and TBH I don't think she meant it the way it sounded. Which I think is the norm...not that people mean to discourage, they just don't get it. 

When I'm among non-athletic types, I keep my tri talk pretty much to myself.  I find that even if they aren't out and out "naysayers" they don't usually get where I'm coming from so they say off the wall stuff.  I don't blame anyone...different strokes for different folks right? 

2006-08-22 3:14 AM
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My biggest issue to start with was when people asked me what I was training for, and I said a sprint tri, and explained the distances, about 4 of my colleagues said "but surely you can just DO that, you shouldn't need to train should you?".

I then had several people tell me that they can do a sprint tri from a sofa start, particularly the running 5km bit. "Most people can run 5km Jac, aren't you being a dramatic saying that you're training for it?".

I didn't bother explaining that I have always found running really hard, and that I'm really excited about the progress I've made so far.

I actually hadn't intended to tell anyone at all that I was training, but my partner, who also works with me, is really proud of my progress, and he told some colleagues who then asked me during after-work drinks.

It doesn't help that one of my colleagues is an ex age-group triathlon champion and had world rankings a few years back. On the surface of it he is supportive, but is also quick to laugh and make "that's nothing, when I was training......" statements quite often.

But, you know, I don't care because I'm training and getting fitter and stronger and I don't give a flying fig that anyone thinks I'm silly. At least not that I'd admit to anyone other than BTers anyway.

2006-08-22 10:05 AM
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Subject: RE: naysayers
mathsgeek - 2006-08-22 4:14 AM

I then had several people tell me that they can do a sprint tri from a sofa start, particularly the running 5km bit.



I think you should turn that into a challenge for them. I'd love to see someone who hasn't swum laps in years try to swim 1/2 a mile.
2006-08-22 10:14 AM
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Fools, the lot of 'em!

 

I recently did my first Oly and while discussing it with my non-tri mates afterwards, two (both runners) said 'i could do the cycle and the run, but i'm not a very good swimmer'.  Complete BS.  It takes training to cycle 40k then do a 10k run, even if you can manage a 10k on its own.  Ditto for a sprint.   Mastering the three disciplines is what its all about.

2006-08-22 10:20 AM
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I'd direct the naysayers to your training log and ask them if they exercise/train as many hours as you do.  That's an awesome blog with all the biking and effort.

My work neighbor is a huge biker and she just signed up for the Lake Placid Ironman next year.  I thought she was nuts, but always supported it and found it really cool to hear about it.  That support led to my interest and searching and inevitable entry into training for a Sprint.  Heck, if she can do an Ironman, I can do a sprint right?  Now my wife and I are both into it!!!

So maybe you need to share more with them and you'll be their motivator.

More importantly you already have the support you need with your mom and wife!  Forget everyone else!



2006-08-22 10:22 AM
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Subject: RE: naysayers
People:

(1) don't get it. At all. To them, triathlon is Ironman, and Hawaii in particular.

(2) have no idea what it takes to actually DO one of these things, especially do it well. They have the idea that if they can't just DO something, then it's crazy.

(3) have no sense of long-term planning, thus the "sofa start" thing. Also no mental ability to stick to a goal and work toward something. Just look at the average savings account...

(4) have no fitness oriented lifestyle, thus you get the ever-present "what event are you training for?" When I get that question, I give them the list of my season. When the blank stare subsides, I say "I'm training to be faster, not finish."

(5) are a$$holes.
2006-08-22 10:23 AM
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Subject: RE: naysayers
mathsgeek - 2006-08-22 4:14 AM

It doesn't help that one of my colleagues is an ex age-group triathlon champion and had world rankings a few years back. On the surface of it he is supportive, but is also quick to laugh and make "that's nothing, when I was training......" statements quite often.

That stinks!  I'd expect so much more from someone like that.  What a jerk.  So many people on this site are totally supportive and happy to welcome newbies and coach/motivate them.  Its a shame his ego is getting in the way.

2006-08-22 10:23 AM
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Subject: RE: naysayers
Invite them out to train with you and then see how they feel! Keep a cell phone and the # of a cab company handy to come pick them up when you get out and they can't get back.
2006-08-22 10:27 AM
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I get this all the time from co-workers and even well-meaning family members who just don't "get it."  I completed my goal race of the season this past weekend (an oly) and, when I returned to work on Monday with numbers on my arms and legs, I got all kinds of questions...

Did you run a marathon?  Yes, I just sweat so profusely that it would have destroyed my race number and therefore I had to be body-marked.

Did you win your triathlon?  Seeing as it was the Canadian National Championships and this is my first season, obviously I blew all the pros out of the water.

But you know, one of my co-workers goes to the gym every morning to train for curling.  Yes, I said curling.  So I understand what he must think when I explain that I went to the lake for a swim at 6:00 am.  To each his own.

2006-08-22 10:42 AM
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I'm pretty sure that my colleague, the champion, intends to be supportive and helpful, and makes his comments to illustrate that he too struggled at times. He has been really helpful at other times, which is why I find it so hard when he does it!

Everyone is right, non-converts have no real idea of what it is we are trying to do, do they?

 



2006-08-22 10:43 AM
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element - 2006-08-22 10:27 AM

when I returned to work on Monday with numbers on my arms and legs, I got all kinds of questions...

My first question would've been, "why the hell do you still have your bodymarking on?!?!". 

You know that rubbing alcohol takes it off quickly, easily and painlessly, right? 

2006-08-22 10:44 AM
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Matchman - 2006-08-22 8:43 AM
element - 2006-08-22 10:27 AM

when I returned to work on Monday with numbers on my arms and legs, I got all kinds of questions...

My first question would've been, "why the hell do you still have your bodymarking on?!?!". 

You know that rubbing alcohol takes it off quickly, easily and painlessly, right? 

 

Thanks for the tip!  I scrubbed and scrubbed and it just wouldn't come off...

2006-08-22 10:49 AM
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Throw down the gauntlet and lay some cash on the table saying "If you can beat my time I'll give you X bucks, up for the challenge??"

They'll shut up quick.
2006-08-22 10:53 AM
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Matchman - 2006-08-22 11:43 AM
element - 2006-08-22 10:27 AM

when I returned to work on Monday with numbers on my arms and legs, I got all kinds of questions...

My first question would've been, "why the hell do you still have your bodymarking on?!?!". 

You know that rubbing alcohol takes it off quickly, easily and painlessly, right? 

You need to keep statements like this to yourself. My wife might see this. After my first TRI she asked if I was going to wash those numbers off. In response to the tone in her voice I said yes. "Sorry honey, I scrubbed as best as I could. They will just have to wear off." She was ok, sinced I tried, when actually I just rinsed the sweat and salt off of the markings.

Taylor, have these people just visit my website: www.ucankissmy@$$.com



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2006-08-22 11:42 AM
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Matchman - 2006-08-22 10:43 AM

element - 2006-08-22 10:27 AM

when I returned to work on Monday with numbers on my arms and legs, I got all kinds of questions...

My first question would've been, "why the hell do you still have your bodymarking on?!?!". 

You know that rubbing alcohol takes it off quickly, easily and painlessly, right? 



I don't understand. Why would you want to rub the numbers off? They are official identifiers of cool overachievers.

Incidentally, after my race on sunday, the thought of bending over to my calf region would be painful. Don't think I stretched enough and my back is a bit achey... same old problem as before but my Celebrex perscription ran out.


2006-08-22 12:02 PM
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Subject: RE: naysayers
To all who listen to the naysayers................what you paying them any attention for??
If they are not supportive, they will be against you. If you play into their game of "oh anybody can do that!!", then you are wasting energy.

This is what happens when you expose yourself to someone and it does put a dent in your day when it's someone that should be supportive. The only real supporters are the ones going thru similar experiences.........working hard for something even you may have thought impossible.

Good luck in your dream. All you need is your desire to get there and you will do it.
2006-08-22 12:13 PM
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I had this when I was training for my marathon and to a lesser extent tris. It was another crazy idea. I did feel some resentment, but I kept it inside. Then I let my actions speak for me.

tkbslc - 2006-08-22 1:09 AM

Nobody at work, friends, or family (Except my mom and my wife) take me seriously when I say I am working toward a triathlon.  They all give me the look and then "good luck buddy"  I know they are thinking, "yeah right chubby.."  It is like everyone is expecting me to fail.   Anyone else deal with this?  I try to use it as a motivator, but I stopped telling people for this reason.  
2006-08-22 12:13 PM
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Subject: RE: naysayers
I hate when people poo-poo my efforts or are condescending. I've heard lots of "well I used to run track in high school" comments from folks who haven't run since... well.... high school! Then they go on to tell me how much faster they are than me (don't they mean were?), followed by some condescending comment that is the verbal equivalent of a pat on the head and "run along now".

I've noticed ALOT of people don't believe in doing athletics unless they can WIN! Like, why bother unless you're an elite athlete? So they put down other people's efforts because they are too afraid to even try themselves -- and too afraid to be BOP or *gasp* LAST.

Their loss.

Fortunately, we have this site for encouragement!

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2006-08-22 12:20 PM
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I've noticed ALOT of people don't believe in doing athletics unless they can WIN! Like, why bother unless you're an elite athlete? So they put down other people's efforts because they are too afraid to even try themselves -- and too afraid to be BOP or *gasp* LAST.QUOTE]

This is a very good point!  Actually, when you put it that way, it's kind of sad.  How tragic to be missing out on so much in life because you're afraid to fail.

2006-08-22 12:37 PM
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element - 2006-08-22 12:20 PM

I've noticed ALOT of people don't believe in doing athletics unless they can WIN! Like, why bother unless you're an elite athlete? So they put down other people's efforts because they are too afraid to even try themselves -- and too afraid to be BOP or *gasp* LAST.QUOTE]

This is a very good point! Actually, when you put it that way, it's kind of sad. How tragic to be missing out on so much in life because you're afraid to fail.



... or because you're too dense to realize that failure is not crossing the line last, or even DNF'ing. Failure is staying on the couch and not even trying...


2006-08-22 12:48 PM
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When I get the question, "did you win your triathlon?" I always just say "yes". ( I did win, by my definition)
Mostly people can't remember it's triathlon. I'm always asked about my next marathon. If I'm feeling snotty, I just look puzzled, then say.."Oh, yeah...marathons....those races for people who can't swim!"
2006-08-22 12:49 PM
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Thanks everybody!  That is why I love this site.  Hundreds of people telling me I can do it, when the rest of the world says you can't. 
2006-08-22 1:38 PM
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Twof of the best posts I've seen in a while. The second, I know for a fact, works like a charm.

No. 1

People:

(1) don't get it. At all. To them, triathlon is Ironman, and Hawaii in particular.

(2) have no idea what it takes to actually DO one of these things, especially do it well. They have the idea that if they can't just DO something, then it's crazy.

(3) have no sense of long-term planning, thus the "sofa start" thing. Also no mental ability to stick to a goal and work toward something. Just look at the average savings account...

(4) have no fitness oriented lifestyle, thus you get the ever-present "what event are you training for?" When I get that question, I give them the list of my season. When the blank stare subsides, I say "I'm training to be faster, not finish."

(5) are a$$holes.


No. 2


Throw down the gauntlet and lay some cash on the table saying "If you can beat my time I'll give you X bucks, up for the challenge??"

They'll shut up quick.
2006-08-22 1:47 PM
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Subject: RE: naysayers
Why are you doing it? For their accolades or for your own, intrinsic, desires? As you train, and start transforming that "chubby" body into a chiseled, rock-hard, athletic one, they'll be asking what was your secret. Um...eat less and exercise more...(yea, right...and I'll just go save myself a million bucks in the process too...)


Hang around people who will support your decisions, not sabatoge them.
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