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 2015-10-19 2:25 PM |
Extreme Veteran  5722   |  Subject: go nuts with this swimming blog:-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/ what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf. Edited by marcag 2015-10-19 2:29 PM |
| 2015-10-19 4:31 PM in reply to: marcag |
Pro 6582   Melbourne FL Gold member | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Nice. Glad to see that 4 years ago when my daughter was 10 and "coaching" me one day that her comment to me about thumbs first (#3) is valid! |
| 2015-10-19 5:43 PM in reply to: 0 |
| 1300 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog My favorite is bi lateral breathing. IDK if I agree with him on the unbalanced part but I think it's over stressed in tri swimming. I found the straight armObservation interesting because watching Chicago ITU on tv the other night I saw a number of women swimming with pretty straight arms. Brought me back to age group days. I kind of miss seeing the windmills. Since its Sutfon this could get good Edited by Goggles Pizzano 2015-10-19 5:47 PM |
| 2015-10-19 6:10 PM in reply to: Goggles Pizzano |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog I found this one funny : "Swimmers do great quantitates of kick work to develop the lift that triathletes are able buy straight off the rack" |
| 2015-10-19 7:52 PM in reply to: marcag |
Pro 4482 NJ | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog 'tumble-turn" just sounds better |
| 2015-10-19 8:44 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1644 Oklahoma | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog I watched some Youtube videos by Gary Rodrigues and he really advocates using pull buoy, ankle bands, and snorkel a lot. Great videos if you ever want to watch them here is the first one and it will lead you to the rest of them. It is broken up into several videos if I remember correctly it ends up being about an hour worth of viewing. I know it is long but well worth it if you have some free time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fi5R65Isxw Edited by EKH 2015-10-19 8:49 PM |
| 2015-10-20 8:50 AM in reply to: marcag |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog What's the benefit of "making sure the stroke is uneven"? |
| 2015-10-20 9:20 AM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog watch phelps swim, he is a great example of an uneven stroke |
| 2015-10-20 10:35 AM in reply to: marcag |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating |
| 2015-10-20 10:37 AM in reply to: tjfry |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating HAHAHAHA!!! |
| 2015-10-20 10:39 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog
Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating HAHAHAHA!!! this wins the thread. step one....become a swim coach |
| 2015-10-20 12:02 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by dmiller5
Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating HAHAHAHA!!! this wins the thread. step one....become a swim coach Well played.
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| 2015-10-20 12:51 PM in reply to: marcag |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Although, I like bilateral breathing, I like this one: "There is no need to bilateral breathe. You will not create injury because of muscle imbalance. Roger Federer plays tennis with one arm. It has yet to fall off. Please don’t fall for this." Mary |
| 2015-10-20 1:28 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by marysia83 Although, I like bilateral breathing, I like this one: "There is no need to bilateral breathe. You will not create injury because of muscle imbalance. Roger Federer plays tennis with one arm. It has yet to fall off. Please don’t fall for this." Mary Lots of discussion about this one in the past. The ability to breath on both sides is an important skill. I think everyone agrees to that. Reducing the amount of oxygen you get, by breathing every 3 strokes or more is not recommended by some. But when Gerry Rodrigues, Gary Hall Sr and Sutto agree on something, there may be some truth to it. Edited by marcag 2015-10-20 1:29 PM |
| 2015-10-20 1:50 PM in reply to: marcag |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by marysia83 Although, I like bilateral breathing, I like this one: "There is no need to bilateral breathe. You will not create injury because of muscle imbalance. Roger Federer plays tennis with one arm. It has yet to fall off. Please don’t fall for this." Mary Lots of discussion about this one in the past. The ability to breath on both sides is an important skill. I think everyone agrees to that. Reducing the amount of oxygen you get, by breathing every 3 strokes or more is not recommended by some. But when Gerry Rodrigues, Gary Hall Sr and Sutto agree on something, there may be some truth to it. X2. This issue is that most people use the term, bilateral breathing, incorrectly. It's not a set pattern of breathing to both sides, which is a bad idea. It's the ability to breath to either side as needed, which is a good idea. Doing the former on occasion in training can be a useful training exercise for some athletes, but I'd go as far as say never do it racing, especially in ows. During races, breathe whenever you need to, and to whichever side you can at the moment.
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| 2015-10-20 2:04 PM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by dmiller5
Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating HAHAHAHA!!! this wins the thread. step one....become a swim coach As I work through my USOC SafeSport course to renew my USAT certification this week, I keep thinking that it's interesting that the coach of the female Kona champion is guilty of violating the most basic of coach-athlete tenets.
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| 2015-10-20 2:04 PM in reply to: TriMyBest |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by TriMyBest Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by marysia83 Although, I like bilateral breathing, I like this one: "There is no need to bilateral breathe. You will not create injury because of muscle imbalance. Roger Federer plays tennis with one arm. It has yet to fall off. Please don’t fall for this." Mary Lots of discussion about this one in the past. The ability to breath on both sides is an important skill. I think everyone agrees to that. Reducing the amount of oxygen you get, by breathing every 3 strokes or more is not recommended by some. But when Gerry Rodrigues, Gary Hall Sr and Sutto agree on something, there may be some truth to it. X2. This issue is that most people use the term, bilateral breathing, incorrectly. It's not a set pattern of breathing to both sides, which is a bad idea. It's the ability to breath to either side as needed, which is a good idea. Doing the former on occasion in training can be a useful training exercise for some athletes, but I'd go as far as say never do it racing, especially in ows. During races, breathe whenever you need to, and to whichever side you can at the moment.
I believe I read some previous discussions on breathing when you feel comfortable. Which I think makes perfect sense. Would you make it clear on the OWS? I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. Mary |
| 2015-10-20 2:07 PM in reply to: TriMyBest |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by TriMyBest Originally posted by dmiller5
Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating HAHAHAHA!!! this wins the thread. step one....become a swim coach As I work through my USOC SafeSport course to renew my USAT certification this week, I keep thinking that it's interesting that the coach of the female Kona champion is guilty of violating the most basic of coach-athlete tenets.
There is not a single piece that guy has ever written that I would take time out of my day to read.....I don't give a rats arse who he's coached. |
| 2015-10-20 2:08 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by marysia83 Would you make it clear on the OWS? I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. Mary When you OWS there may be waves hitting you in the face, breathing to the other side helps The buoys may be on the left or on the right, being able to see them on either side helps sighting and swimming straight You may have a competitor close by and breathing to the other side may be easier and more comfortable The person you are trying to draft off their hip may be on the left or right In a pool you may want to breath to the other side to see a competitor during a swim meet. |
| 2015-10-20 2:12 PM in reply to: marcag |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by marysia83 Would you make it clear on the OWS? I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. Mary When you OWS there may be waves hitting you in the face, breathing to the other side helps The buoys may be on the left or on the right, being able to see them on either side helps sighting and swimming straight You may have a competitor close by and breathing to the other side may be easier and more comfortable The person you are trying to draft off their hip may be on the left or right In a pool you may want to breath to the other side to see a competitor during a swim meet. Thanks! That's what I thought (based on the previous discussions), but wanted to make sure I was not reading it the other way around. But I've been sick for over a week now, so please don't pay attention if I ask weird/silly question...  Mary |
| 2015-10-20 4:58 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by TriMyBest Originally posted by dmiller5
Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating HAHAHAHA!!! this wins the thread. step one....become a swim coach As I work through my USOC SafeSport course to renew my USAT certification this week, I keep thinking that it's interesting that the coach of the female Kona champion is guilty of violating the most basic of coach-athlete tenets.
There is not a single piece that guy has ever written that I would take time out of my day to read.....I don't give a rats arse who he's coached.
We have a term here in the States. It's "BANNED FOR LIFE". also known as the "14 will get you 5 to 10" rule. |
| 2015-10-20 5:16 PM in reply to: tjfry |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by TriMyBest Originally posted by dmiller5
Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tjfry Originally posted by marcag :-) http://trisutto.com/7-swim-myths-triathlon/what is your favorite ? And for those that don't know him, the author is one of the most famous tri coaches out there. He is the coach of the female Kona champion Daniela Ryf.
wonder if he writes a blog on dating HAHAHAHA!!! this wins the thread. step one....become a swim coach As I work through my USOC SafeSport course to renew my USAT certification this week, I keep thinking that it's interesting that the coach of the female Kona champion is guilty of violating the most basic of coach-athlete tenets.
There is not a single piece that guy has ever written that I would take time out of my day to read.....I don't give a rats arse who he's coached.
We have a term here in the States. It's "BANNED FOR LIFE". also known as the "14 will get you 5 to 10" rule. I wouldn't pizz on him if he was on fire. If you have sex with a 14 year old child it's called rape where I'm from. I'm good with that. |
| 2015-10-20 5:30 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by marysia83 Would you make it clear on the OWS? I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. Mary When you OWS there may be waves hitting you in the face, breathing to the other side helps The buoys may be on the left or on the right, being able to see them on either side helps sighting and swimming straight You may have a competitor close by and breathing to the other side may be easier and more comfortable The person you are trying to draft off their hip may be on the left or right In a pool you may want to breath to the other side to see a competitor during a swim meet. Thanks! That's what I thought (based on the previous discussions), but wanted to make sure I was not reading it the other way around. But I've been sick for over a week now, so please don't pay attention if I ask weird/silly question... Mary There is never a silly question. And even sick, you have the ability to stay on topic. so there is that :-) |
| 2015-10-20 6:34 PM in reply to: #5147660 |
| 71 , Ontario | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog While I would agree that bilateral breathing every three strokes isn't necessary, I would also agree with the comments that learning bilateral breathing is useful so you can breathe on the other side. I think that not only is it useful if the buoys or waves or other swimmers mean you want to breathe on the other side but also because it adds confidence in swimming generally for ows. I have only just learned bilateral breathing and, while I felt like I was learning to drown for the first few weeks , I now believe I will be more confident and will have to take fewer pauses if I get bumped or need to sight the other way in ows which is used to have to do as a unilateral breather |
| 2015-10-20 7:08 PM in reply to: CarolynS |
| 319 Sarasota, Florida | Subject: RE: go nuts with this swimming blog Not only does bilateral breathing feel natural to me, but it's therapeutic to my back pain. When I breathe every 2 it can aggravate it on a bad day but I'm also trying to switch between 2 and 6 beat kicks. I want to see if I can use them for extra speed which I'm sure will make me want to start breathing every 2 strokes but so far I'm a 2 beat every 3 even during the race. The thumbs first thing. Nope. That hurt my shoulder last time I tried. |
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