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2015-10-27 6:54 PM
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this is why I have trouble buying into these systems.  they confuse the issue.

broccoli is 33% protein....

Speaking of confusing the issue, broccoli is only about 3% protein by weight. You'd need to eat about 2.5 lbs of broccoli to get the total protein you'd get in 1/4 lb of chicken breast meat.

I was speaking by % of calorie (and I did mis speak, its 20%).  Do you measure your diet by weight intake, or by calories consumed?  In fact, for someone who is trying to be full and not overdoing the calories, foods that are high in water and fiber will do the trick. 

 

 



2015-10-27 7:24 PM
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So far I feel good, even now that I am adding in tri training, but would like to stick to this for the foreseeable future IF it can be done while training. Have had several affirmations of that today which is awesome.


My only suggestion with regards to combining the plan with tri training would be to consider going up a column, or even two, depending what the intensity and duration of your training is that day. You're still pretty unlikely to intake more calories than your burning.
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Subject: RE: 21 Day Fix
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Originally posted by gary p
Originally posted by dmiller5

this is why I have trouble buying into these systems.  they confuse the issue.

broccoli is 33% protein....

Speaking of confusing the issue, broccoli is only about 3% protein by weight. You'd need to eat about 2.5 lbs of broccoli to get the total protein you'd get in 1/4 lb of chicken breast meat.

I was speaking by % of calorie (and I did mis speak, its 20%).  Do you measure your diet by weight intake, or by calories consumed?  In fact, for someone who is trying to be full and not overdoing the calories, foods that are high in water and fiber will do the trick. 

 

 




I measure by neither, I measure by colored cubes! But to be more serious, there is a practical limit to the volume/mass of food one can eat. I wouldn't argue that broccoli is a good thing to eat if you want to lose some weight because it is low in calories and high in many essential nutrients. But protein isn't really one of them. When you look at the essential amino acids, and not just total protein, you'd have to eat 5 lbs of broccoli in a day if you're counting on it to be your protein source. FIVE POUNDS! I don't care how committed you are to the vegan cause, that's a lotta broccoli, and why the protein/calorie ratio of broccoli is a rather useless statistic. It has very low calories/volume. Therefore, it doesn't really matter that much if it has a fairly high protein/calorie ratio.

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Subject: RE: 21 Day Fix
Originally posted by gary p

My only suggestion with regards to combining the plan with tri training would be to consider going up a column, or even two, depending what the intensity and duration of your training is that day. You're still pretty unlikely to intake more calories than your burning.


Thanks for that suggestion. Today I burned >1,000 calories from my three workouts, on to of the built in deficit with the plan (with the focus not being on calories, of course). Trying to make sure I time my meals soon after any significant excursion at least.
2015-10-27 7:51 PM
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Subject: RE: 21 Day Fix

Originally posted by gary p
Originally posted by dmiller5

Originally posted by gary p
Originally posted by dmiller5

this is why I have trouble buying into these systems.  they confuse the issue.

broccoli is 33% protein....

Speaking of confusing the issue, broccoli is only about 3% protein by weight. You'd need to eat about 2.5 lbs of broccoli to get the total protein you'd get in 1/4 lb of chicken breast meat.

I was speaking by % of calorie (and I did mis speak, its 20%).  Do you measure your diet by weight intake, or by calories consumed?  In fact, for someone who is trying to be full and not overdoing the calories, foods that are high in water and fiber will do the trick. 

 

 

I measure by neither, I measure by colored cubes! But to be more serious, there is a practical limit to the volume/mass of food one can eat. I wouldn't argue that broccoli is a good thing to eat if you want to lose some weight because it is low in calories and high in many essential nutrients. But protein isn't really one of them. When you look at the essential amino acids, and not just total protein, you'd have to eat 5 lbs of broccoli in a day if you're counting on it to be your protein source. FIVE POUNDS! I don't care how committed you are to the vegan cause, that's a lotta broccoli, and why the protein/calorie ratio of broccoli is a rather useless statistic. It has very low calories/volume. Therefore, it doesn't really matter that much if it has a fairly high protein/calorie ratio.

You are completely missing the point....but I think the OP gets it so i'm gonna let it rest

2015-10-28 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by gary p

My only suggestion with regards to combining the plan with tri training would be to consider going up a column, or even two, depending what the intensity and duration of your training is that day. You're still pretty unlikely to intake more calories than your burning.


Thanks for that suggestion. Today I burned >1,000 calories from my three workouts, on to of the built in deficit with the plan (with the focus not being on calories, of course).


The program is built around the assumption that the video workouts will burn ~400 calories each. If your workouts burn more, you can obviously adjust your intake accordingly.


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