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2015-12-28 6:31 PM


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Subject: Open Water Swim
Hi guys:

Any tips any BTers can impart on someone who is new to saltwater open water swimming?

I tried swimming in the ocean the other day where water wasn't too choppy but the after taste of the salt water really made me dehydrated quickly.

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2015-12-29 9:33 AM
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How much of the water were you drinking?





OK, jokes aside; I do my open water work in wavy choppy waters most of the time and I get an occasional mouthful, but it's not the salt water that'll cause the dehydration. Maybe if you're in the salt water for a 10 mile swim you have concerns, but for anything else it's your diet and nutrition that will be the dehydration cause. Cramping can happen due to that, as well as the possibility of the challenge of the open water swim pushing your fitness level to cause cramps.

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2015-12-29 11:25 AM
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True--salt water shouldn't truly dehydrate you unless you are swimming a really long way (like over IM distance) in warm water, or swallowing unusual amounts, but it can make your mouth feel gross. I usually rinse my mouth out with a swallow of fresh water after the swim in T1 (for a longer race) or when starting the bike (for shorter races). Plus start drinking as soon as you start the bike, not later. That will get the salt taste and drying effect out of your mouth.
2015-12-29 2:59 PM
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I have been training for an iron distance race so I was swimming for 1-1.5 hours. I think the water gets in no matter if I'm trying to swallow any of it. I need to work on my breathing style.

Has anyone heard of this company- iolite?

http://www.swimiolite.com/

it does the sighting for you by lighting up green yellow or red depending on if you are on course on not.
2015-12-29 5:04 PM
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Find out how that thing knows what "straight" is.

Exactly how......
2015-12-30 12:36 AM
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it has two modes- free style and course directed. if you are aiming to a direction, the goggles will light up green if you are on course and red or yellow depending on how far you are straying from the direction.

i think the goggles are running on gps and probably an accelerometer as well. i think the technology would be really useful if it worked.


2015-12-30 5:07 AM
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I'm still not hearing exactly how it knows what "Straight" is.

Now, if you tell me I could stand and laser point a spot with it..................and it would program that spot......I'd be interested. I would like to know exactly how it recognizes "straight".
2015-12-30 8:31 AM
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The dehydration feeling from the salt water is probably just that, a feeling because the salt water drys out your mouth. This does not mean you are actually dehydrated.


As for those GPS goggle it does not specify how it knows where the course is? I assume you need to program the course in like downloading gps routes for your bike computer. The problem is someone has to put a gps course online for you to download and since the tri swims change every time and sometimes in the middle of the race you would not be able to trust anything its telling you.
2015-12-30 5:52 PM
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My straightening device is usually the guy on the kayak saying "hey buddy....off course!" Works every time
2015-12-30 7:12 PM
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Originally posted by nc452010

I'm still not hearing exactly how it knows what "Straight" is.

Now, if you tell me I could stand and laser point a spot with it..................and it would program that spot......I'd be interested. I would like to know exactly how it recognizes "straight".


From what I understand, you set the direction at the start and at each buoy and then it tracks the line. The review I read said that it worked quite well but it was a prototype and quite expensive.

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/05/iolite-enabled-goggles.html
2015-12-30 7:54 PM
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Originally posted by b2run
Originally posted by nc452010 I'm still not hearing exactly how it knows what "Straight" is. Now, if you tell me I could stand and laser point a spot with it..................and it would program that spot......I'd be interested. I would like to know exactly how it recognizes "straight".
From what I understand, you set the direction at the start and at each buoy and then it tracks the line. The review I read said that it worked quite well but it was a prototype and quite expensive. http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/05/iolite-enabled-goggles.html

No......just no.  

Learn to swim and sight.  That way when the buoys gets blown from their morings....as they inevitably will....you won't be dependent on a device that does NOTHING to help you be a better open water swimmer.



2015-12-30 8:24 PM
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Originally posted by b2run
Originally posted by nc452010 I'm still not hearing exactly how it knows what "Straight" is. Now, if you tell me I could stand and laser point a spot with it..................and it would program that spot......I'd be interested. I would like to know exactly how it recognizes "straight".
From what I understand, you set the direction at the start and at each buoy and then it tracks the line. The review I read said that it worked quite well but it was a prototype and quite expensive. http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/05/iolite-enabled-goggles.html

No......just no.  

Learn to swim and sight.  That way when the buoys gets blown from their morings....as they inevitably will....you won't be dependent on a device that does NOTHING to help you be a better open water swimmer.

This. Save your $200. Seriously
2015-12-31 3:09 AM
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Originally posted by ChrisM
Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by b2run
Originally posted by nc452010 I'm still not hearing exactly how it knows what "Straight" is. Now, if you tell me I could stand and laser point a spot with it..................and it would program that spot......I'd be interested. I would like to know exactly how it recognizes "straight".
From what I understand, you set the direction at the start and at each buoy and then it tracks the line. The review I read said that it worked quite well but it was a prototype and quite expensive. http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/05/iolite-enabled-goggles.html

No......just no.  

Learn to swim and sight.  That way when the buoys gets blown from their morings....as they inevitably will....you won't be dependent on a device that does NOTHING to help you be a better open water swimmer.

This. Save your $200. Seriously

+1

2015-12-31 11:35 AM
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yeah i think learning to sight and be comfortable with ows is better than relying a gadget but if the tech got cheaper and was reliable, I would love to try it out.

I sight for not only direction but also to avoid other swimmer and not get kicked in the face.
2015-12-31 4:34 PM
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I wouldn't buy it if it was $20. But that's just me. IMO it solves a non-existent and/or easily fixed problem. But.... If you sight to avoid other swimmers I don't see how this helps. In fact it increases the risks as I guess the point is you never look up
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