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2016-06-09 12:33 PM
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Subject: RE: 5 Bicyclists killed

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Having been to a couple thousand accidents including many fatal......judging from the pictures that was a tremendous impact.  It knocked that truck backwards like a head on collision between cars.  That's crazy and I've never seen anything like it in a vehicle vs. bicycle.

Amazing. Not in a good way. One of the photos shows what appears to be a fire hydrant that has been moved a good foot or so through dirt (at least looks like) so some of that damage may have come from that, but not the hood/windshield or all of the front. Dude never put his foot on the brakes before plowing those poor souls down

The craziest thing is that he hit them from behind, I would think.  Just looking at the damage you wouldn't come to that conclusion.  I wonder what speeds were involved.

I don't ride on roads much anymore.......but my kids ride to work, working out, to swim practice, etc.  Most of the roads are crowded to very crowded.  I hate it. I should of raised soccer players.

I didn't see the pictures of the truck.  But from other views I wonder if he hit the rocks that were on the lawn?  I'm just going by the news video but it looked like the front yard might have been lined with large rocks.

Also disturbing was the picture of the one bike on the ground that had a blinker on the rear which was still flashing. 

Go find the truck pictures, the damage goes all the way to the roof. That was no rock. There was also a pic of a broken mirror. I doubt there is anything these people could have done even if they'd known it was coming

I agree there appears to be nothing they could have done from an evasive maneuver perspective.  I'm told this stretch of road is known by the locals as a dicey place to ride due to the amount of car traffic and their speeds.  Please don't misinterpret that to mean I'm blaming the victims with that comment, I'm pointing out how their ability to react was likely nil...

 



2016-06-09 3:17 PM
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And now 5 counts of second degree murder under MI law.   This is good news.

2016-06-10 7:02 AM
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Subject: RE: 5 Bicyclists killed
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And now 5 counts of second degree murder under MI law.   This is good news.




Is there a news report on that. I was looking for some followup to the initial reporting that says if he has actually been charged.
2016-06-10 8:16 AM
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Subject: RE: 5 Bicyclists killed
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And now 5 counts of second degree murder under MI law.   This is good news.




So was this guy impaired in any way or just mad at the world?

I don't guess it matters a lot, but I was sort of hoping he was suffering from some sort of medical issue.
2016-06-10 10:37 AM
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Subject: RE: 5 Bicyclists killed

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And now 5 counts of second degree murder under MI law.   This is good news.

So was this guy impaired in any way or just mad at the world? I don't guess it matters a lot, but I was sort of hoping he was suffering from some sort of medical issue.

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2016-06-10 12:12 PM
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And now 5 counts of second degree murder under MI law.   This is good news.

Is there a news report on that. I was looking for some followup to the initial reporting that says if he has actually been charged.

 

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/06/09/kalamazoo-truck-crash-5-cyclists-died-arraignment/85645050/



2016-06-10 2:04 PM
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Subject: RE: 5 Bicyclists killed
Originally posted by marti038

Originally posted by ChrisM

And now 5 counts of second degree murder under MI law.   This is good news.




So was this guy impaired in any way or just mad at the world?

I don't guess it matters a lot, but I was sort of hoping he was suffering from some sort of medical issue.


I think it was both, drunk and angry

http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/charlie-charles-e-pickett-jr-battle-c...
2016-06-10 3:14 PM
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I am surprised at the charges. I suspect they wouldn't be as severe if not for all of the media coverage. It's too bad the DA of the driver who killed a cyclist and motorcycle rider in CA yesterday didn't have the same attitude.
2016-06-10 3:39 PM
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Subject: RE: 5 Bicyclists killed
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Originally posted by marti038

Originally posted by ChrisM

And now 5 counts of second degree murder under MI law.   This is good news.




So was this guy impaired in any way or just mad at the world?

I don't guess it matters a lot, but I was sort of hoping he was suffering from some sort of medical issue.


I think it was both, drunk and angry

http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/charlie-charles-e-pickett-jr-battle-c...


The family chased reporters off their property with a front end loader?!?! Wow. Sounds like the crew has more anger than brains.
2016-06-10 4:19 PM
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Originally posted by happyscientist I am surprised at the charges. I suspect they wouldn't be as severe if not for all of the media coverage. It's too bad the DA of the driver who killed a cyclist and motorcycle rider in CA yesterday didn't have the same attitude.

Do you know MI homicide law (easy to google it)?  I called this as second degree murder under MI Law the day of the accident over on ST, prior to all the coverage.

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