I have an insane hatred of draft legal racing (Page 5)

You mean Gwen?  11 seconds off out of the swim, top 5 bike, top run?  That recent Olympic champion?

Or did you mean Allistar?  6 seconds off oput of the swim,  4th bike, 3rd run?  That one? 

Well, except that the most balanced of the DL triathletes (see my post above) could both be in the running for any HIM title right now......see Gomez......and perhaps any IM title in the future....see Frodeno.  The simple fact is.....you'll never be truly fast at triathlon of any distance unless you are proficient at all three disciplines.  Yeah, you can have a weapon that is well above the others.......but the good triathletes are all in the top 2-5% at EVERY discipline......balance son......balance.  This ain't 1985.

And if you REALLY want to talk balance.....ANY successful DL racer can crossover and be successful at non draft racing.......unfortunately, it doesn't work the other way around.

Half Ironman........stay in there.....it's almost the 12 round....you can at least make a showing.

You're not reading...........READ!!!  And for the record.....USAT tried it for Jr. worlds with the women 2 years ago....MAJOR FAIL.

Uh.....it took Gomez the same season. LOL

No, he won a HIM......you know, long course.  

Don, the windmill is kicking your arse. LOL

Still.....if you insist on only counting IM......Fredeno won the gold medal in the olympics in 08......he was 4th at Kona in 09 and '10. 

Stay down son.......stay down.

Sure.....you asked how long it would take for a top level SC triathlete to switch over to long course and be succesful, you just didn't see how it could be......the answer is immediately.  You have no idea how those folks train or what it takes to be successful at SC.  You can't use yourself, or me, or 90% of the people who do beer league triathlon as a measure.....you have to use TRIATHLETES.

btw......it was a few years after 09 and 10 for Frodeno......he was still doing SC then.....he actually finsihed third his first IM when he moved up....after winning HIM's.

And yes, "Don".....you obviously missed the windmill reference.....must be all those punches you've been taking here.

Key Hotay.. phonetic for ya

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!!!  Sure I remember....I paid you exactly what you wanted.....and you were supposed to pay shipping....THAT WAS THE DEAL......but you didn't research that any better then you have this and wanted ME to split it with you after you shipped.  No. 

Hey.....at least that bike went fast after you sold it to me. lol

no that's very slow.

LOL - and then when you "came back" to triathlon you hit me up and asked if I wanted to sell it back.........you must have really felt "jilted"

Dude - I never rode that bike.....it wasn't for me.  But it did put down the fastest bike split at ITU Chicago and won third opverall at AG Nationals and 3rd at AG worlds.  You shoulda kept it. .......it may have helped you.

I almost died that day.....first and last LC race for me.....I shoulda trained. LOL