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2016-10-26 3:06 PM


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Subject: extra cassette
Looking for opinions on whether or not people with more than one wheel set change the cassette from one to the other, or just buy an additional cassette and keep in on the other wheel set.
I know this is hugely determined by personal opinion, finances, etc. I'm just sort of looking for on average what the masses do, and if anyone thinks there is a pro or con either way. In my case, I would be buying a Shimano Ultegra 6800 cassette, which I can get for $54.This is an exact duplicate of what I have on my bike now.
PS I already have the tools too for taking off cassettes.
Thanks!


2016-10-26 3:24 PM
in reply to: Burchib

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Subject: RE: extra cassette

I keep one specific cassette on the dedicated trainer wheel, but all the others are interchangeable.

2016-10-26 3:26 PM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette
I only have one wheelset currently, but if I had two I'd definitely have a cassette on each. I actually have two cassettes now. I use a 11-25 much of the time and for most races, but I also have a 12-28 for especially hilly rides/races.
2016-10-26 4:32 PM
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It all depends.  On the dedicated trainer wheel I just keep the same cassette on (no idea what it is).

What is on my race wheels or training wheels really depends on what kind of race I am training for (or if I am training(.  Ie right now doing a flat race next month so have a 12/23 on the race wheels.  Road wheels probably currently have a 12/27. 

So I guess the specific answer is I have cassettes on each wheel that I use, but all are subject to swapping/changing depending on the riding I am doing

2016-10-26 5:05 PM
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Noob question but if you have two different cassettes do you have to just your derailer?
2016-10-26 5:20 PM
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Originally posted by nrpoulin Noob question but if you have two different cassettes do you have to just your derailer?

Maybe. Depends on how exactly things line up after swapping wheels and/or cassettes. I currently don't have to, but have had to twist the barrel adjuster 1-2 clicks when switching around. Haven't needed to move the b-tension though.



2016-10-26 7:18 PM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette
I had a trainer wheel/road wheel that I swapped the cassette back and forth on. It was a pain. Once I get another trainer wheel it will have a dedicated cassette on
2016-10-26 7:48 PM
in reply to: ChrisM

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Subject: RE: extra cassette

Originally posted by ChrisM

It all depends.  On the dedicated trainer wheel I just keep the same cassette on (no idea what it is).

What is on my race wheels or training wheels really depends on what kind of race I am training for (or if I am training(.  Ie right now doing a flat race next month so have a 12/23 on the race wheels.  Road wheels probably currently have a 12/27. 

So I guess the specific answer is I have cassettes on each wheel that I use, but all are subject to swapping/changing depending on the riding I am doing

I'll swap around based on the ride I'm doing, not so much the race. Though the ride type may be influenced by the upcoming race. Still, I could have a hilly ride before a flat race, but not going to use an 11-23 on a ride where a 28T would be a struggle!

Thinking our trainer responses could be due to the types we have. You have the computrainer where I have a Kinetic fluid trainer. I use an 11-21 to minimize the gaps. The 21T is plenty small for me there and haven't really felt the need to pull it off when I have the 11-23 available for road use.

2016-10-26 8:24 PM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette
I have 3:

Cheap trainer wheel (got sooooo sick taking off regular tire and putting on a trainer tire): Tiaga
Outside trainer wheel (OEM): 105
Race wheels: Ultegra

Is Ultegra needed for a triathlon? Nope. The shifts are more crisp for sure but that's not needed for steady state. I as told this but I wanted to see it before I believed it. I does feel nice and I get a nice crisp *clink* for every shift. Basically I'm trying not to spend money on top of the line stuff for training wheels. No point. Going with a 105/Ultegra for a race wheel is a nice thing to have though but I'll probably just get a 105 as a replacement many many years down the road.
2016-10-26 8:32 PM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette
I have a Sram 1070 that 'I use for road training and a cheapie Shimano cassette that I use for the trainer-dedicated wheel. I switch the 1070 onto my race wheels for races, honestly, not that big of a deal, takes 5 mins.
2016-10-26 9:08 PM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette
I have a cassette for each one of my wheels (incl my trainer wheel) plus a couple of extra with different gearing for different races. Yes, easily worth having an extra cassette for the trainer wheel.... allows you to use it whenever at a moments notice.


2016-10-26 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ChrisM

It all depends.  On the dedicated trainer wheel I just keep the same cassette on (no idea what it is).

What is on my race wheels or training wheels really depends on what kind of race I am training for (or if I am training(.  Ie right now doing a flat race next month so have a 12/23 on the race wheels.  Road wheels probably currently have a 12/27. 

So I guess the specific answer is I have cassettes on each wheel that I use, but all are subject to swapping/changing depending on the riding I am doing

I'll swap around based on the ride I'm doing, not so much the race. Though the ride type may be influenced by the upcoming race. Still, I could have a hilly ride before a flat race, but not going to use an 11-23 on a ride where a 28T would be a struggle!

Thinking our trainer responses could be due to the types we have. You have the computrainer where I have a Kinetic fluid trainer. I use an 11-21 to minimize the gaps. The 21T is plenty small for me there and haven't really felt the need to pull it off when I have the 11-23 available for road use.

Re rides and races.  I am just in that mindset now as I'm doing a pancake flat IM so using 12/23.  All the rides around my house are pretty hilly with 100 feet per mile elevation, I wouldn't ride the 12/23 for those rides (and haven't ridden locally in a while).  But flat courses are the rarity and I could run a 12/27 or 11-28 year round and be good with it.   I also run a compact which affects the decision slightly

Re trainer - I use the CT in erg 100% of the time, so honestly I don't change gears other than to switch things up now and again.

 

2016-10-27 6:50 AM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette
I agree that you can use a wide spaced cassette all the time, but changing from a 12-27 to a 11-23 gives me closer spacing which is really nice as you can find the "perfect" gear ratio at any give time. It's a luxury, I know, but a cassette isn't that expensive.
2016-10-27 7:19 AM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette

I eventually started to just use the 11-28 all the time outside for training rides. Less thinking and the gaps weren't really an issue then. Or at least I was less particular about them. For racing I'd switch in the 11-23 if the course seemed flat enough (it often was). Spacing was more noticeable then.

The trainer cassette I picked up is a DA, but was several generations old when I got it. Only cost ~$20.

2016-10-27 9:40 AM
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I have the same cassette on each wheel set (3).  When I bought race wheels without thinking I got another matching cassette because I'm lazy about switching stuff around.  I buy them used so it was only a $20 mistake. 

2016-10-27 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by audiojan I agree that you can use a wide spaced cassette all the time, but changing from a 12-27 to a 11-23 gives me closer spacing which is really nice as you can find the "perfect" gear ratio at any give time. It's a luxury, I know, but a cassette isn't that expensive.

I started this training block using the 11-28 I had been using, and found that on the flats there as one gear missing where that sweet spot was.  Once I remembered I had the 12-23 in my garage and switched to that, it was night and day.  I was able to hit the power goal right on without feeling like I had to spin too much or grind a bit. Not sure which cog it was (i could figure it out) but I agree tighter spacing is in general much better if the terrain allows



2016-10-27 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette
Originally posted by ChrisM

I started this training block using the 11-28 I had been using, and found that on the flats there as one gear missing where that sweet spot was.  Once I remembered I had the 12-23 in my garage and switched to that, it was night and day.  I was able to hit the power goal right on without feeling like I had to spin too much or grind a bit. Not sure which cog it was (i could figure it out) but I agree tighter spacing is in general much better if the terrain allows


Almost certainly the "magic" 16T cog.




Edited by gary p 2016-10-27 1:50 PM
2016-10-27 2:47 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

I keep one specific cassette on the dedicated trainer wheel, but all the others are interchangeable.

But what happens when you go on a really hilly trainer ride?

2016-10-27 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: extra cassette

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by brigby1

I keep one specific cassette on the dedicated trainer wheel, but all the others are interchangeable.

But what happens when you go on a really hilly trainer ride?

HTFU!

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