Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? (Page 2)
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2007-11-09 1:24 AM in reply to: #538512 |
Veteran 486 Newcastle, England | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? |
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2007-11-09 2:16 AM in reply to: #1044975 |
Champion 5781 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? newbie13 - 2007-11-08 8:12 PM what kind of pace would you have to avg in the swim to make the 2:20 cutoff? sorry bad at math. Sub 3:19 per 100 yds., if my math is right... |
2007-11-09 7:23 AM in reply to: #538512 |
Master 2808 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? Yep, finished my first. I think if you go in prepared, barring catastrophic bike failure or extreme conditions (heat mainly), a person should have a great chance of finishing. Like others have said, nutrition was the biggest challenge for me so practicing that would be wise. |
2007-11-09 7:59 AM in reply to: #538512 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? It wasn't pretty, but yes, I did (and I walked the marathon and still finished under 13, so 17 hours really shouldn't be a problem if you are trained for it properly and don't have any physical issues debilitate you in the race). |
2007-11-09 8:26 AM in reply to: #538512 |
Extreme Veteran 378 Really South | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? Yep! IMFL '06 was a success for me........meaning I got to cross the finish line (still on my feet and smiling). I am now signed up for IMFL '08. I think the second one will be a little harder for me mentally. My main goal is to still cross the finish line but I really would love to beat my time from last year, if only by A minute. I'll have to work really hard at maintaining a certain pace on the bike so I don't hit the dreaded wall or bonk. I was on a steady high the whole time during my first IM and am glad I took this year off. |
2007-11-09 8:49 AM in reply to: #538512 |
Elite 2553 Tucson, AZ | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? No. Missed the bike cutoff at IMAZ this year by 6 min. The 30+ mph winds for the bike and the 40 mph winds on the last lap of the bike did me in. On any normal day the distance wouldn't have been a problem. Challenging of course, but not as bad as it was that day. The next morning I signed up for IMAZ '08, vowing to get my revenge on the course (hence the sig line). I recently had a bit of a hiccup in my "I will beat it" attitude. I had another bad HIM at SOMA 2 weeks ago where heat exhaustion on the run forced me to walk and have yet another horrible finishing time. Then again, it was 97 degrees out and the hottest race I've ever done. Still, it has caused "what if" thoughts to creep in. I'm going into my IM training with a much better base than last year. The fear of DNFing will force me to stick to the training...I just need to be careful and not overdo it. If I don't make it next year it will kill me. |
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2007-11-09 8:50 AM in reply to: #538512 |
Expert 696 Sugar Hill, GA | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? This is all very encouraging. I just finished my first season of triathlons, completed two sprints. This year I plan on doing at least one olympic and possibly a HIM, I consider all of this training so that I can do IM in Lake Placid, hopefully in 2009 but no later than 2010. My biggest concern is the cut off times but I feel just a tad better after reading this thread. |
2007-11-09 10:11 AM in reply to: #538512 |
Master 1728 Pulaski TN | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? I was another one of the IMAZ bike course victim, my day ended at mile 84 and I was taken to the med tent.s But I just got back from IMFL where I signed up for next year. |
2007-11-09 10:57 AM in reply to: #541615 |
Elite 2768 Raleigh | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? SunnyS - 2006-09-14 3:27 PM Thanks for the info from the IMWisc website, Nancy. I agree that the chip-taking seemed pretty unfair. There must've been a reason...right? I don't know, I wasn't there. Anyway I had not thought about returning IM's facing DNF's due to "been there, done that" attitudes. Very interesting! I hope I don't do that on a fall half-marathon...let me insetad learn from those who let it "get ugly" due to lack of proper training! Back to more running, -Sunny I finished mine on the first time. Sunny, there is also a cut off on the bike half way. Mike R told us a story about a guy who had a flat the prior year right before special needs on the bike and sat and waited for the sag truck. When the sag truck got there, he fixed the tire and rode to special needs but they stopped him because he did not meet the 1/2 bike cut off. So when he got the flat all he had to do was walk 200 yards and then wait for the truck and he woiuld have had the rest of the time.... So reading the the athlete guide and going to the meetings is very important. Also, I want to stress that doing a IM is not a easy task. I see a lot of people who say "this is my first year, second year etc and I am doing a IM and have only done a sprint of a Oly". There is a reason only less than a million people have completed an Ironman event. It is not EASY and like so many stories on here, there are so many other factors like weather and your body. You have to train hard, it is a huge sacrifice. It is not like missing a week of workouts and still grinding thru a Oly or even a marathon; IM is a different animal. I am sure the ones that did not complete the IM can tell you it is very hard on the ego, I know because I did not complete my first half because of under training and poor nutrition. It is hard to train again.... This may seem harsh and I am sure I will get PM's for this comment but they have time goals for a reason.... You are supposed to be able to do the race in around 15 or so and if something goes wrong you have 17.... Dont train thinking you have 17 hours and that is all the time in the world, then when something goes wrong you have no time to back up and punt. If you are out there after 17 hours and something didnt go wrong you were not ready for that distance.... Make sure you are ready for the distance..... |
2007-11-09 12:19 PM in reply to: #1045580 |
Extreme Veteran 471 Northern Virginia | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? Sunny, there is also a cut off on the bike half way. Mike R told us a story about a guy who had a flat the prior year right before special needs on the bike and sat and waited for the sag truck. When the sag truck got there, he fixed the tire and rode to special needs but they stopped him because he did not meet the 1/2 bike cut off. So when he got the flat all he had to do was walk 200 yards and then wait for the truck and he would have had the rest of the time.... So reading the the athlete guide and going to the meetings is very important. that's heartbreaking, but you really can't sit there and count on the tech support. i had a flat that required a new tire at imcda and was able to make it ~3 miles before i finally got support. Chris Sadowski made it even further than that. you've got to keep moving when every second counts. |
2007-11-09 1:32 PM in reply to: #538555 |
Expert 1070 North Carolina | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? westfried - 2006-09-12 6:13 PM I read an interesting statistic a while ago, but I don't remember where, and I don't remember the exact numbers, but... Of those people who start a given type of endurance race (Marathon, IM), 90% will eventually finish that type of race. Though, it might not be on that attempt. (ie, fail in a half-iron, but come back to complete next year's race.) BUT - only 25% of people who begin the training make it to the start line. Injuries, time commitments, etc. Lots of people who attempt IM training will have to bow out from some injury, so just completing the training is a big accomplishment. (Thus, DFL > DNS). There is a related statistic about targeting a race versus paying for a race. Registering, and PAYING, for a race acts as an external commitment, and correlates stongly with getting to the starting line. (but here's where I can't remember the percentages) Ie, when my wife started training for the Vancouver marathon, she kept postponing registration. Started slacking a bit on the later training, and skipped out (due to "work" two weeks before. On the other hand, when she signed up, and paid for, Grand Columbian (half-iron), she busted her butt, did all the training, and had a great race. That's interesting. I signed up with three other friends only two of us made the starting line..................and both of us are Ironmen!!! |
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2007-11-09 2:06 PM in reply to: #538807 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? Birkierunner - 2006-09-12 9:16 PM Yep, still working on my IM WI race report. Sorry, Birkie, there's a cutoff for post RRs. |
2007-11-09 2:07 PM in reply to: #538512 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? Yes! |
2007-11-09 2:12 PM in reply to: #1045165 |
Extreme Veteran 739 Westlake, OH | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? tcovert - 2007-11-09 3:16 AM newbie13 - 2007-11-08 8:12 PM what kind of pace would you have to avg in the swim to make the 2:20 cutoff? sorry bad at math. Sub 3:19 per 100 yds., if my math is right... Yup, thats right - right between 3:18 and 3:19 per 100. Here is are the other paces assumming that one is at cut off for swim and bike Bike = 13.7 mph run = 14:53 mins/mile One would have to make up sometime for T1 and T2 for these paces.... |
2007-11-09 2:27 PM in reply to: #538512 |
Pro 3705 Vestavia Hills | Subject: RE: Did you become an Ironman on your 1st attempt? It was a long crooked path to the first starting line given the bike/car thing at St. Anthony's last April which took me out of IMCdA but I made it to the finish line at IMFL. If you train for it, if you log the works outs and put in the time + effort, you will not only finish it the first time ... you will finish well. Ironman training is an exercise in both commitment + problem solving. Good luck! |
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