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2018-02-07 3:36 PM

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http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/07/plus-size-instagram-model-lose-we...

Interesting.

I completed 2 Ironman events at 255 lbs at check-in with my best time being 14:30. I was 30 bs over weight. Then I blew out my knees and quit running and biking and swimming and blimped up to 379 lbs. Last Oct I decided I needed to lose weight in order to do the things I like to do when I retire this year and have dropped 54 lbs so far.

I didn’t need anyone to tell me I was, and still am, fat. And when my doctor said you need to loose weight I was not surprised or offended. I’d be shocked and disappointed if she didn’t tell me that! People at work sometimes call me Big Mike. I guess I could take offense and call them Puny Joe...but I am big and my name is Mike.

Anyway, I see her point about people only seeing her as fat. But I think she needs to accepts that she is fat and, knowing that she is working on it, can smile like the cat that ate the canary.....uh....a low cal canary.

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2018-02-08 7:54 AM
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I think this could be an interesting topic. I'm not sure-are you responding to something? It sounded like you were?
2018-02-08 8:40 AM
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Interesting article.

One of the courses my wife teaches is food and nutrition. One of her degrees is in Biology. Whenever stories like this pop up I always ask her for an opinion since its usually more learned than mine.

There are a number of factors. One of the biggest ones (not the only one) is the current change in attitude to being overweight and also obesity. There is a huge increase in weight gain throughout the developed world, and also developing world. With more of the population becoming overweight (due to a lot of reasons, including automation, etc.) it becomes more socially acceptable. Its no longer a fringe or vast minority of the population.

Where culture clashes with biology..is that there is overwhelming evidence that being overweight (....sometimes) and obese is not healthy. There are a multitude of diseases, illnesses, etc. linked to these conditions. That DOES NOT EQUATE to being in a normal weight range or underweight do not negate any issues with respect to food an nutrition. Its strictly about overweight/obesity. Trying to convince oneself (like the model in the article) that being secure with her image can substitute for the health impacts of being fat is a problem. It can't. Science is a cold hearted dictatorship that doesnt care about cultural, political or social issues. Your entitled to your own opinions based on social conventions..but not your own facts.

The infamous Body Mass Index (BMI) is a guideline (and any physician or specialist will say "guideline" not holy bible) is a tool to gauge where you should be at.

She shouldn't be upset or offended. Physicians arnt there to judge or offend a person. They are there for your health.

Perhaps...and this is where my opinion jumps in...is that in today's world of identity politics, victimization, political correctness and snowflakes....we care more about feelings than facts. That we can no longer discuss openly issues without offending someone...because we can no longer tolerate it as individuals...



2018-02-08 9:11 AM
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Originally posted by TheCrownsOwn

Interesting article.

One of the courses my wife teaches is food and nutrition. One of her degrees is in Biology. Whenever stories like this pop up I always ask her for an opinion since its usually more learned than mine.

There are a number of factors. One of the biggest ones (not the only one) is the current change in attitude to being overweight and also obesity. There is a huge increase in weight gain throughout the developed world, and also developing world. With more of the population becoming overweight (due to a lot of reasons, including automation, etc.) it becomes more socially acceptable. Its no longer a fringe or vast minority of the population.

Where culture clashes with biology..is that there is overwhelming evidence that being overweight (....sometimes) and obese is not healthy. There are a multitude of diseases, illnesses, etc. linked to these conditions. That DOES NOT EQUATE to being in a normal weight range or underweight do not negate any issues with respect to food an nutrition. Its strictly about overweight/obesity. Trying to convince oneself (like the model in the article) that being secure with her image can substitute for the health impacts of being fat is a problem. It can't. Science is a cold hearted dictatorship that doesnt care about cultural, political or social issues. Your entitled to your own opinions based on social conventions..but not your own facts.

The infamous Body Mass Index (BMI) is a guideline (and any physician or specialist will say "guideline" not holy bible) is a tool to gauge where you should be at.

She shouldn't be upset or offended. Physicians arnt there to judge or offend a person. They are there for your health.

Perhaps...and this is where my opinion jumps in...is that in today's world of identity politics, victimization, political correctness and snowflakes....we care more about feelings than facts. That we can no longer discuss openly issues without offending someone...because we can no longer tolerate it as individuals...






Completely agree. Science/biology doesn't care if you do or do not 'accept' you obesity. I could see her being angry or upset if the advice came from a friend or co-worker. Fat people do not need to be told they are fat. Smokers don't need to be to they need to quit. Couch potatoes don't need to be told they need to get some exercise. Alcoholics don't need to be told they need to quit drinking. But you should expect a doctor, even a dermatologist doctor, to make suggestions to you to improve you health.

You are also correct that being overweigh is unhealthy regardless of your physical condition. At 255 lbs I just blew off the notion that the extra weight was unhealthy. I rationalized if I could run marathons and complete ironman events I was healthy. I also have good genetics and very seldom ever get sick. But there is little doubt the packing the extra weight while logging literally thousands and thousand of miles running too it's toll on my knees and ultimately led to having to have surgery on both of them.

Finally, as you alluded to, health is not just about avoiding a heart attack. It has been shown that obesity - even a little - contributes to a long list of health issues.....maybe even that girl's dermatology issue?






2018-02-09 11:12 AM
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I'm not one to push diets or ways to eat on people. But I did find something that helped me as I age and decline in physical activity. It's a pretty simple plan and it's been around for quite some time now. Low carb. Turns out in my case, that high fructose corn syrup is not my friend. Nor is sugar and processed flour. Rising weight, A1C, blood pressure, acid reflux, red blood cell numbers were getting wonky and a general feeling of nausea had my doctor telling me to make some changes. I knew how to fix most of it, but the nausea had my doc and a GI he sent me to stumped. My wife was already low carb so I decided to try it for myself.

It worked. Turns out sugar and high fructose corn syrup were the culprits and once removed, my nausea went away. Also gone was acid reflux and heartburn. Packaged processed foods in this country are loaded with crap we were never intended to consume. High fructose corn syrup can be found in almost anything that comes in a package. Look for it, you'll be surprised.

I also know all the improvements were not coincidental and can go the other way if I don't watch my diet. I gradually started eating carbs and sugar and all the symptoms returned. Now I need to get back into the low carb diet and get things back to where I want them to be. The hardest thing for me was giving up pizza and pasta. ;(
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