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Subject: Random Question - What is a second wind? Anyone?!
This randomly came up in conversation the other day whilst out for a training run with friends but what exactly is a second wind? There are often times in training when I go from struggling through the middle-sets of an interval session, wondering how I'm going to complete several more to suddenly out of nowhere, as if back from the dead, finding a new lease of energy and smashing the final few. How does this happen as there never seems to be logical reason. There are times I've gone to bed early, eaten the diet of a pro-athlete, warmed up etc and still had a mediocre session. Yet there are other times when I've started an early morning workout hung over as hell after an all nighter, giving myself a 50/50 chance of completing it and just when I think I'm on the verge of keeling over, Mr second wind comes along and saves the day. Is it physiological - our body tapping into reserve energy supplies? Is it mental - realising that you will make it to the finish line, your subconcious giving you a pep talk? Is there anyone out there who can explain this phenomenon?


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2019-03-26 8:53 AM
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Subject: RE: Random Question - What is a second wind? Anyone?!
There's probably a combination of a bit of everything in there.

I see it around 85% mental and 15% how your body responds.

Wake up hung over and you are already resigned that it will suck so that mental toughness is already there that got you to even start. Get into and you're like "wow that was not as crappy as I was thinking it would be".

If you are primed and ready to kill it, and it's slightly harder than you anticipated, you might have some subconscious discouragement that seeps in and kills the rest of the workout mentally.
2019-03-26 10:09 AM
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Apparently, even the experts have varying opinions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_wind
2019-03-26 2:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Random Question - What is a second wind? Anyone?!

Originally posted by Alpal This randomly came up in conversation the other day whilst out for a training run with friends but what exactly is a second wind? There are often times in training when I go from struggling through the middle-sets of an interval session, wondering how I'm going to complete several more to suddenly out of nowhere, as if back from the dead, finding a new lease of energy and smashing the final few. How does this happen as there never seems to be logical reason. There are times I've gone to bed early, eaten the diet of a pro-athlete, warmed up etc and still had a mediocre session. Yet there are other times when I've started an early morning workout hung over as hell after an all nighter, giving myself a 50/50 chance of completing it and just when I think I'm on the verge of keeling over, Mr second wind comes along and saves the day. Is it physiological - our body tapping into reserve energy supplies? Is it mental - realising that you will make it to the finish line, your subconcious giving you a pep talk? Is there anyone out there who can explain this phenomenon? Thanks!

 

Your body has different energy sources. One source uses the glycogen in your blood and liver to produce energy.  Your body can generate about 2,000 to 3,000 calories from the glycogen you store in your body.  When you hear of people carb loading before a race there are building up their storage of glycogen.

In a race you are probably going to burn about 1,000 calories an hour.  If your race is more than 2-3 hours long you are going to exhaust your glycogen storage.  When you get to that point you hit what is called the runner's wall.  The first time you hit that wall your body will scream to stopping in your tracks and not taking another step.  That is when your first wind is gone. 

You have to push through the wall.  If you stop your body won't need to continue to generate energy and you stay in that zone where you are out of energy and feeling dead.  If you keep going your body will have to  switch from burring carbs to generate energy to burning fat to generate energy.  It takes about 10 minutes from the time you hit the wall to where your body is burning fat.  As the fat burning cycle take over you come out of the dark zone called the wall and you start to feel good again.   Feeling good again is what is called your second wind. 

Fat doesn't burn as fast as glycogen does so you won't be sprinting when you come through the wall.  You still need to pace yourself and take it slow but you won't feel like you want to stop anymore.  You actually will feel pretty good.  The chemical processes to break down fat are said to even give you a runners high which is why some people say endurance sports are addicting. 

The more times you go through the runner's wall the easier it gets to transition.  Your first time running off the bike you legs feel like jello and you have a hard times walking straight let alone running.  After doing you brick training your body gets better at the transition and you can run off the bike like it is nothing.  The wall is the same way.  As you learn to pace, refuel, push through the wall etc.  You just feel a little sluggish for 10 minutes rather than feeling like you are going to die.  I personally don't know if I have ever got a runners high.  I defiantly have learned to feel when the wall is coming on though and when I have caught my second wind.

 

P.S.  What you are experiencing in a work out is not likely to be moving from the Krebs cycling in to ketosis.  When you are working horses they get fatigues and slow down until you turn to back to the barn.  When they know they are almost done they not longer have to pace them self for infinite life and can put all that they have left into a short energy bust.  They also say that no matter how dehydrated people are that get lost in the desert that when they rescue team finds them that they can still cry tears of joy.  Your body saves a little back.  When it feels it can use it it will release the emergency supply.  When I get the end of the work out burst I know the horses are headed back to the barn.



Edited by BlueBoy26 2019-03-26 2:25 PM
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