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2019-07-01 4:33 PM
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Made some spaghetti sauce and some meat sauce. This morning my wife tells me to can meat I need a pressure cooker. I did some research and found the pc boils at 250 instead of 208 and will kill the bugs that cause food poisoning. I put them in fridge and now have to eat in a week or so...or freeze them.

LB, hows come you didn’t tell me I needed a pc to can meat?!

Oh well, lessened learned. My wife told me to freeze the meat and can the sauce...but she didn’t tell my why! Turns out she didn’t know why either, it was just her instinct. I should have listened...but was a little drunk.

So, PSA, if you can any kind of meat, use a pressure cooker!


Put it in ziplock bags and freeze it.


2019-07-01 6:11 PM
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bee's are doing great.  This frame is covered in capped brood, which are the soon to be baby bees. 
Two of the three hives are doing great, but it looks like one of them may have lost their queen.  It's substantially behind the other two and doesn't have any new capped brood or eggs.  




I see you went foundation less in your frames. Any issues with heat yet? We can't do it in south Texas because they get really gooey and tend to fall apart with the heat. I lost one hive this winter and am down to one hive. They're really killing it this year and I put second brood box on last week. I had it on over the winter and they just weren't ready for it. I was a little overzealous putting it on last year, lesson learned. Don't put the next brood box on until they're about to swarm! I think that extra open space to heat and the extreme cold did in the hive that perished.
2019-07-01 7:41 PM
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Originally posted by mdg2003 I have an ePub book that shows you how to make your own hive components. If you guys want it, PM an email and I'll send it to you. I made all my stuff last year and it seems to be working just fine. Or just hit Mann Lake and bite the bullet. I was in Home depot and they had just culled a pile of 1x pine boards. I picked up the boards for 10% of the original price and just cut around the defects.

I found some plans online and made the first half dozen deep boxes, but kind of burnt out on it...  hah

Ended up just buying the medium boxes. 

2019-07-01 7:42 PM
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Every damn chance I get.  Tannerite is your friend.  So much easier than making pipe bombs.

Daughter 1.0 went to meet bfriend's parents at their ranch two weeks ago. She asked to borrow my bee suit because they had a wild hive on the property and he wanted to check it out. Turns out it was in a fallen tree and he needed the suit to place the tannerite charge!

Ouch, if my wife found out our daughter was a co-conspirator in something like that I don't think I'd have a daughter anymore. 

2019-07-01 7:45 PM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by mdg2003
Originally posted by Left Brain

Every damn chance I get.  Tannerite is your friend.  So much easier than making pipe bombs.

Daughter 1.0 went to meet bfriend's parents at their ranch two weeks ago. She asked to borrow my bee suit because they had a wild hive on the property and he wanted to check it out. Turns out it was in a fallen tree and he needed the suit to place the tannerite charge!

Ouch, if my wife found out our daughter was a co-conspirator in something like that I don't think I'd have a daughter anymore. 

LOL - I have to check my daughter's rooms to make sure they don't bring any home with them.

2019-07-01 7:49 PM
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Originally posted by mdg2003
Originally posted by tuwood

bee's are doing great.  This frame is covered in capped brood, which are the soon to be baby bees. 
Two of the three hives are doing great, but it looks like one of them may have lost their queen.  It's substantially behind the other two and doesn't have any new capped brood or eggs.  

I see you went foundation less in your frames. Any issues with heat yet? We can't do it in south Texas because they get really gooey and tend to fall apart with the heat. I lost one hive this winter and am down to one hive. They're really killing it this year and I put second brood box on last week. I had it on over the winter and they just weren't ready for it. I was a little overzealous putting it on last year, lesson learned. Don't put the next brood box on until they're about to swarm! I think that extra open space to heat and the extreme cold did in the hive that perished.

We actually did do foundation.  Frames are wired and we put wired wax foundation on.  You can see some of the wires on the bottom if you zoom in. 
We found it interesting that the bees chewed through the foundation all along the bottom.  Our guess was they did it for an easier path between the sides.  So far everything's staying together really well, but I can totally see it being a challenge in the heat if they weren't wired. 
We did buy plastic frames coated in wax for the honey supers on top though so they'd be more durable during the harvesting process.
The two hives that are rocking really filled out the first super and had capped brood on all 10 frames.  We just added the second super last weekend on two of the three.



2019-07-09 8:13 AM
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We're getting rolling now.  The regular tomatoes will be crazy this week, and I have 70 or more cucumbers getting ready.  Peppers and cherry tomatoes are on the menu right now.  Pickled some banana peppers (and added some habanero in there to keep my kids slowed down LOL ) and grilled jalapeno poppers with our big meals through the entire holiday weekend. 

 





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2019-07-09 1:16 PM
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How do you get them to grow with Bacon on them?  hah 

2019-07-09 1:17 PM
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Our troubled hive made a new queen so they're back in business.  We were kind of shocked to see it, but the new one is rocking and rolling now. 

2019-07-09 1:33 PM
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Our troubled hive made a new queen so they're back in business.  We were kind of shocked to see it, but the new one is rocking and rolling now. 

We miss bees.   My wife and I were talking last night and I told her about you guys and your hobby.  So, what's the time, effort and money to get a hive going?  I think I might give it a shot.......where do I start?

2019-07-09 1:43 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by tuwood

Our troubled hive made a new queen so they're back in business.  We were kind of shocked to see it, but the new one is rocking and rolling now. 

We miss bees.   My wife and I were talking last night and I told her about you guys and your hobby.  So, what's the time, effort and money to get a hive going?  I think I might give it a shot.......where do I start?

Probably the best place to start is buying the beekeeping for dummies book.

From there you can either buy or build your hives.  I started out building them, but when I compared the costs it was almost the same price as just buying them so we've been buying them since.  We get all our stuff from glorybee.com, but there's several other places to shop.

Timing wise, it's too late for this year, because you have to start the hive earlier enough to get them in shape to survive the winter.  That will give you plenty of time to plan for next season.
We bought the full bee suits, but since the first day I only wear the veil hat thing and am usually in t-shirt and shorts.  They're really dosile and I haven't been stung yet.  My wife still wears her full suit because she's a wimp.   
other than that you'll need to buy the boxes and frames.  We bought the wired frames and bought wax foundation to put in them. (all from glorybee).  For each hive you'll need two "deeps" and two "mediums" plus a base, inner cover, and outer cover.  I think total cost is maybe $200 per hive.  For the bees we bought them from a local place that orders them in every spring.  We did the Carniolin bees and I think they were $140 per package (1 queen and 2 lbs. of bees).
For harvesting in the fall you'll need to get some extra equipment as well, so you can spend a few hundred (or even thousands) there depending on how fancy you want to get.  We haven't bought that stuff yet. 

Good news though, once you get it all going they should just keep going year after year.  The only ongoing expense is buying some sugar to mix with water to feed them in the early spring and late fall. 



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Mann Lake is another supplier. I figure I put about 7-800 start up for two hives last year. That included bee suit, smoker and accessories. My bees were from two different suppliers and ran close to 200 per nuc. Check Craigslist for your area. I've seen people selling entire established hives on there. If you wanted to start this year, that would likely be your only option. I've also got the Beekeeping for Dummiez on pdf if you want it. PM me an email and I'll send it. Informative read and worth looking at even if you decide not to get into it.

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Picked 92 tomatoes today. We’ve given many away, we made tomato soup, me made spaghetti sauce and eaten many dozens. Guess 3 flats of tomatoes is too much (18 plants). Volunteer cukes never did bare cukes. Guess I’ll put up more tomato sauce.

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92 tomatoes, 2 onions, garlic, mushrooms, basil, oregano, S&P make 7 quarts of spaghetti sauce.



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Recipe?

2019-07-14 4:29 PM
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Recipe?




Not really. Just my Italian instinct. Blanched the tomatoes and removed skin and core. Cooked down to make stewed tomatoes. Used some dried garlic we dehydrated earlier this year. Added 2 chopped onions and a big box of chopped mushrooms. Added basil, oregano, salt, pepper and some Louisiana hot sauce. Quantities were gut feel based on volume of tomatoes. Takes a lot more salt than you’d think with that amount of tomatoes. I said 92 tomatoes but it was more than that. Last week my wife blanched and stewed about 2 quarts of tomatoes. I poured into ziplock bags and froze them. I added them to the sauce. So more like 125 or so tomatoes. I used a blender to “stew” the tomatoes. This allowed the sauce to stay chunky.

My approach was to add seasoning in small amounts, continue to simmer and taste and add more as needed.

My wife has the canning knowledge. Sterilized the jars in dishwasher (dishwasher temps over 200 degrees). Filled jars with hot sauce and put on sterile lids. Boiled jars in big pot for 45 minutes.

ETA.

Tomatoes are mostly water so I stained them after blanching and removing the skin and then simmered for probably 6 hrs to boil off the excess water to get the right viscosity. The long cook time also helps to meld the seasoning.



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2019-07-14 5:06 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Recipe?

Not really. Just my Italian instinct. Blanched the tomatoes and removed skin and core. Cooked down to make stewed tomatoes. Used some dried garlic we dehydrated earlier this year. Added 2 chopped onions and a big box of chopped mushrooms. Added basil, oregano, salt, pepper and some Louisiana hot sauce. Quantities were gut feel based on volume of tomatoes. Takes a lot more salt than you’d think with that amount of tomatoes. I said 92 tomatoes but it was more than that. Last week my wife blanched and stewed about 2 quarts of tomatoes. I poured into ziplock bags and froze them. I added them to the sauce. So more like 125 or so tomatoes. I used a blender to “stew” the tomatoes. This allowed the sauce to stay chunky. My approach was to add seasoning in small amounts, continue to simmer and taste and add more as needed. My wife has the canning knowledge. Sterilized the jars in dishwasher (dishwasher temps over 200 degrees). Filled jars with hot sauce and put on sterile lids. Boiled jars in big pot for 45 minutes. ETA. Tomatoes are mostly water so I stained them after blanching and removing the skin and then simmered for probably 6 hrs to boil off the excess water to get the right viscosity. The long cook time also helps to meld the seasoning.

Roughly how many beers/bottled of wine does it take to get through that process?? 

2019-07-15 7:32 AM
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Gotta be a bottle of cab, at the very minimum. I mean you gotta deglaze the pan with a hearty red after sautéing the onions, right? ;P
2019-07-15 10:33 AM
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Pulled this yesterday evening.....

 





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Getting to the last of the tomatoes now..... but the good news is the fishing is picking up, put up 2 gallons of crappie fillets yesterday....and very soon the fall harvest of doves, ducks, geese, and deer will start.  It's a good life!!

 



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