Anybody ever use these things, I am thinking about the 58mm deep carbon clincers, They are alot cheeper than zipps??
Are you paying for the zipp name? or are they better
Zipps are lighter and have nicer hubs, the the Cane Creeks are still nice wheels. Look at the American Classics as well, which use the same (non-dimpled) rim as Zipp, but are also lots cheaper.