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2007-01-22 4:07 PM
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2007-01-22 5:53 PM
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frogman13 - 2007-01-22 3:48 PM  We too had to swim 50 meters underwater, you will be able to do it with practice, the key is to relax and swim at an easy pace, keeping the heart rate down.

The secret is hyperventilating first.  

2007-01-22 9:47 PM
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Just looking at this stuff makes me groan. I don't even think I can even memorize that, let alone do it!!!
2007-01-23 12:33 AM
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My favorite Navy Seal... HEESCH..

*sigh* ;)

Graduate of Navy Seal.. 2006

And YES, I have one of his brown trainee tee :)

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2007-01-23 12:44 AM
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Lara - 2007-01-22 10:34 AM

jmk-brooklyn - 2007-01-22 10:32 AM Why do they have to swim sidestroke?

just a guess... but i'm thinking energy conservation.

And or Stealth? Just another guess.

2007-01-23 7:22 AM
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Read the following, both by Dick Couch:

The Warrior Elite: The Forging of SEAL Class 228
The Finishing School: Earning the Navy SEAL Trident

When I was in the USAF I did several joint-ops with the SEALs. Those guys were insane, but, as mentioned above, some of the nicest people you'd ever have the pleasure to meet. I have the deepest respect for them!

BTW:
The Discovery Channel Navy SEALs Training DVD set is now on sale for $19.99!


2007-01-23 7:45 AM
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run4yrlif - 2007-01-22 6:53 PM

frogman13 - 2007-01-22 3:48 PM We too had to swim 50 meters underwater, you will be able to do it with practice, the key is to relax and swim at an easy pace, keeping the heart rate down.

The secret is hyperventilating first.

I thought it was doing a lot of hypoxic sets. 

2007-01-23 8:31 AM
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Scout7 - 2007-01-23 8:45 AM
run4yrlif - 2007-01-22 6:53 PM

frogman13 - 2007-01-22 3:48 PM We too had to swim 50 meters underwater, you will be able to do it with practice, the key is to relax and swim at an easy pace, keeping the heart rate down.

The secret is hyperventilating first.

I thought it was doing a lot of hypoxic sets. 

Well, sure, you've got to train a little. But by hyperventilating immediately before the effort, you increase your oxygen-carrying capacity. Of course, you also increase your risk for passing out mid-swim, but that's what lifeguards are for. DON'T TRY THIS ALONE!!!

We used to do underwater swims for distance in swim practice when I was a kid, and I could never get to 50 yards until someone showed me the how to hyperventilate. Immediately, I could go a good 2o yards father. I think my furthest ever was about 70 yards (5 yards short of 3 laps in a 25 yard pool).

2007-01-23 8:44 AM
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Jim, I was being facetious.
2007-01-23 8:49 AM
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Scout7 - 2007-01-23 9:44 AM Jim, I was being facetious.

Yeah, I know you were, but I like telling stories. It's funny, we used to do tons of hypoxic sets at swim practice, but they've fallen out of favor recently. I guess some studies have been shown that you don't improve your long-term O2 capacity by doing them.

But for specific breath-holding events, they've got to help you deal with hypoxia, at least from a psychological standpoint.

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2007-01-23 9:34 AM
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If I had stayed at the Academy and finished up, I was planning to go for SEAL training slot (with pilot as my back-up choice).  One of the very few things I regret after resigning ..... not getting that opportunity to see if I could survive BUDS.
2007-01-23 11:42 AM
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CptnJackSparrow - 2007-01-23 5:22 AM

Read the following, both by Dick Couch:

The Warrior Elite: The Forging of SEAL Class 228
The Finishing School: Earning the Navy SEAL Trident

When I was in the USAF I did several joint-ops with the SEALs. Those guys were insane, but, as mentioned above, some of the nicest people you'd ever have the pleasure to meet. I have the deepest respect for them!

BTW:
The Discovery Channel Navy SEALs Training DVD set is now on sale for $19.99!


Purchased the DVD. This thread is going to cost me some dough now. Book got stellar reviews.
2007-01-23 12:59 PM
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A friend of mine tells a story of when he was stationed on a ship, the marines landing force and the seals argued over who was going to be the ones to go on a certain mission.  I don't know all the details but, basically the marines got stuck and had to get rescued by the Seals, who after swimming out and rescuing the Marines...turned around and carried out the mission.  My friend was the medical corpsmen that had to tend to the marines hypothermia...
2007-01-23 1:17 PM
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CptnJackSparrow - 2007-01-23 8:22 AM

Read the following, both by Dick Couch:

The Warrior Elite: The Forging of SEAL Class 228
The Finishing School: Earning the Navy SEAL Trident


Thanks for the book recs, CpntJack! I'll have to check them out. When I was a kid I used to love reading this guy (Rogue Warrior), although he is a little cheesy:
http://www.dickmarcinko.com/Bio.aspx
2007-01-23 1:52 PM
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TacomaLuv - 2007-01-23 1:17 PM

CptnJackSparrow - 2007-01-23 8:22 AM

Read the following, both by Dick Couch:

The Warrior Elite: The Forging of SEAL Class 228
The Finishing School: Earning the Navy SEAL Trident


Thanks for the book recs, CpntJack! I'll have to check them out. When I was a kid I used to love reading this guy (Rogue Warrior), although he is a little cheesy:
http://www.dickmarcinko.com/Bio.aspx


I have hung out with Demo Dick Marcinko at some reunions and dog and pony shows. Dick was a fun guy and I have fond memories of partying with him, but I would take his books with a grain of salt. He is known to embelish a tad.


2007-01-31 10:44 PM
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Brett - 2007-01-21 8:41 PM

Downunderman - 2007-01-21 7:30 PM Theer is a large emphasis on swimming here. Is that why they are called SEALS? I would have thoughtthe running would be harder, 4 miles in 32 mins? Obviously the enemy are more likely to get them in the water than on land perhaps?

That's an 8 min pace... in combat boots... in the sand... And they aren't doing that stuff fresh either. The psychological and physical stress they are put under is severe. They're getting worked to near exhaustion. I just finished hanging out with a former SEAL for a few weeks and he said that real quick it comes down to being able to get your mind to a better place. Chris is right, check out the video... it's avaliable on Netflix.



I just watched the first two shows.

There is no way I would last. Brett is right. It is 8 min/miles in combat boots in the sand after being up all night and doing push-ups and pull-ups and tons of other tough exercises.

And that is just the beginning of the day. Then they go into the heavy surf and get knocked around. And wait, there is more! They have to lug around these 150 pound telephone poles and do crazy exercises with them.

The instructor made some do 'downward facing dog' from yoga. That is something I do. Then the instructors started pouring heavy mud onto their backs.

Makes Ironman training look like a breeze.



2007-02-01 6:28 AM
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GolfMark - 2007-01-31 11:44 PM

I just watched the first two shows.

There is no way I would last...

Makes Ironman training look like a breeze.


Good stuff for the trainer. There is no way you are going to cut a ride short, or slack on the power output, when you see what those guys are going through!

Whooo Ah!
2007-02-01 8:14 AM
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A good friend of ours is a Seal.  He just told me about drownproofing last week.  It is the thing where they tie your arms and legs behind you and you have to swim around like that.  He is training an attorney from my husband's office and he made him do this in one of the local Country Club pools!  Can you imagine a bunch of Boca ladies coming out for their morning swim to find an attorney tied up and flailing around their pool?

Oh - and according to our friend this method came about in Vietnam.  An American had been captured and was being transported on the back of a boat.  He had his hands and feet tied but decided he'd rather drown than be captured, so he threw himself off the boat.  They looked for him but he stayed under so long they assumed he was dead.  When he popped up he had to figure out a way to swim to safety without using his arms or legs!  Now the Seals learn how to do the same thing. 

2007-02-01 2:12 PM
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Its not the downward facing dog... It's called the front leaning rest!
2007-02-01 3:32 PM
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labrat - 2007-02-01 12:12 PM

Its not the downward facing dog... It's called the front leaning rest!


Haha. Well, it looked like downward facing dog. But I didn't see any yoga mats, pleasant aroma smell, or soothing music.

Oh, and on the 50 yard underwater swim -- I assumed you dived in. You jump in, do a twist and then go the 50 yards underwater.

The instructors were pulling out bodies left and right.

And yes, hard to get off the trainer early while watching what these volunteers do!

Cheers





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