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2007-04-04 1:05 PM
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Men in general are faster and stronger then women but unless your a pro or close to being one remember there is a girl out there who can always beat you in a race.



2007-04-04 1:12 PM
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and if they don't believe you they can just look at your photo (avatar ?sp?) picture.


of course anyone that tiny could run much faster than me


2007-04-04 1:30 PM
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Gaarryy - 2007-04-04 1:12 PM

and if they don't believe you they can just look at your photo (avatar ?sp?) picture.


of course anyone that tiny could run much faster than me




hey now. I actaully beat that girl by 5 - 10 minutes thanks to chip timing.
2007-04-04 2:08 PM
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"Gaarryy--back to the very first post about the kids themselfs.. do they (the boys) really care that they got beat by a girl?? or is there some parent, family member telling them not to lose to a girl.. "

It is more of a peer pressure thing with the boys. Their friends will tease them if they get beat by a girl. Others will frown on beating a girl -- that might be more the Dad's. But I've seen some weird parenting, I can say.

And the girls are way more competitive with eachother early on -- that changes BIG TIME by the time they get into their late teens -- then the boys/men take over being the most competitive.

2007-04-04 2:13 PM
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Cando - 2007-04-04 6:54 PM

At my company there are 2 women managers, both have families as do I. I work most days from 8:15 until 6:30, with an hour for lunch. The one manager claims she works 7:00 AM until 5:00 every day (I don't know that she is working all those hours, but I don't think she is here everyday at 7:00 more likely 1-2 times a week), the other comes in at 8:15-8:30 and is out the door at 5:00-5:30 every day. From what I can tell neither are puting in the same hours I am. Should they be paid equally for the hours they work verses the hours I work?

Most companies worth their salt pay people for what they contribute to the company - not how many hours they put in.

You might not know this - but it is seen over here in London as very "American" to judge someone by the hours they work. As a result, at some of the Yank Banks, people sit at their desk doing no work at all (personal stuff and surfing) just so they can be seen to be there.

Personally I do 9-5 - I'm middle management but more importantly I'm a husband and dad. When I'm appraised I make sure I can point to tangible things I've contributed to achieving the company's objectives - it don't matter how long I sat in my chair.

Some might argue that the women do shorter hours because they're more effecient than you are (not meant to be provocative)

 

interesting point cando. my sister lived in japan for a year. hours culture there. the grey suits would 'work' stupid hours BUT were so damned inefficient.  

2007-04-04 2:25 PM
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Ironically enough, my biggest rival is my friend JC.  She kicks my butt all the time.  It makes me stronger and want to get better.  I have no problem losing to someone as long as they beat me fair and square.  Gender doesn't matter to me.


2007-04-04 2:36 PM
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Good job !! way ta go !!! & thanks for noticing that i was just joking also

I usually start in the back of the pack just because I like passing people later on, then I have to explain chip timing to my non running friends.

2007-04-04 2:39 PM
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sappho96 - 2007-04-04 3:13 PM
Cando - 2007-04-04 6:54 PM

At my company there are 2 women managers, both have families as do I. I work most days from 8:15 until 6:30, with an hour for lunch. The one manager claims she works 7:00 AM until 5:00 every day (I don't know that she is working all those hours, but I don't think she is here everyday at 7:00 more likely 1-2 times a week), the other comes in at 8:15-8:30 and is out the door at 5:00-5:30 every day. From what I can tell neither are puting in the same hours I am. Should they be paid equally for the hours they work verses the hours I work?

Most companies worth their salt pay people for what they contribute to the company - not how many hours they put in.

You might not know this - but it is seen over here in London as very "American" to judge someone by the hours they work. As a result, at some of the Yank Banks, people sit at their desk doing no work at all (personal stuff and surfing) just so they can be seen to be there.

Personally I do 9-5 - I'm middle management but more importantly I'm a husband and dad. When I'm appraised I make sure I can point to tangible things I've contributed to achieving the company's objectives - it don't matter how long I sat in my chair.

Some might argue that the women do shorter hours because they're more effecient than you are (not meant to be provocative)

 

interesting point cando. my sister lived in japan for a year. hours culture there. the grey suits would 'work' stupid hours BUT were so damned inefficient.  

Interesting.... How about another side of this. The men at my office take wayyyyy more "personal time" than the women take to take care of their families. What I am talking about are the times the men:

1. leave work to get a haircut. This is not done during the lunch hour, because the barber is too busy then, but rather before lunch or after lunch, thereby making their lunch break @2 hours.

2. Playing golf with other male work members- leaving at 3:30 to make a 4 PM tee time. Business is not discussed during this time, other than to btich about other coworkers.

3. going outside every hour for 15 min to smoke (ok there are women that do this too)

4. leave early to go coach little league teams

I could go on. To some extend, there is a double standard. If I left work at 4 to go get my hair done, there would be a cry of outrage from the men. I feel guilty when I leave at 4:45 to make a 5:30 appt.  So, what I am saying is that a lot (not all, that would be stereotyping) of men miss the same amount of time from work that women do, but because it's spent on what other men deem as an acceptable reason, it's ok.

 

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