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2007-04-27 12:59 PM
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that's why i got a job at inside out sports....Wink with out working there it's kinda like when i owned a boat... but my wife and kids like me better doing the tri thing... being 189lbs rather than 287lbs in the last 1 1/2 years... what's that worth?


2007-04-27 12:59 PM
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I think there are certainly some people who take up triathlon and try to improve by throwing money at it -- expensive bike, powertaps, high-end parts, and so forth. Truth of the matter is you don't have to be too crazy with your cash to enjoy yourself. For myself, it breaks down something like this:

Bike -- already owned a good road bike
Aerobars -- $50
New wheels -- $500 (a nice upgrade to my bike).
Trainer -- $100
Running shoes -- already ran, so no additional expense
Wet suit -- $100 (nice closeout deal)
Still need -- aerobottle

Coaching -- The best money I've ever spent on sports. Having a coach over the past 9 months or so has been the single biggest factor in improving my performance -- I workout more, more consistently, and with better purpose than I ever have before.

I've gotten faster, I'm having fun, and I hope to have a successful HIM at Eagleman. And best of all my coach is relatively inexpensive!
2007-04-27 1:02 PM
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Daremo - 2007-04-27 12:48 PM

Already received my refund ......... so they accepted it.

I did the same thing about 6 years ago when I was drag racing cars and won money at the track racing plus a few sponsorship primes from those races.  They were okay with it then.

Doesn't mean it won't come back to bit ya...they can audit back 7 years...

2007-04-27 1:02 PM
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However much I have actually spent, take that number and multiply it by 2,345 and that's what my wife thinks I have spent!!!!
2007-04-27 1:11 PM
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PDA - 2007-04-27 8:14 AM

I'm really new to the sport but between a new bike, clothes, swim lessons, shoes, and food it has started to add up. The difference is I no longer spend $150 a week in the bar. I don't look at it as an investment into tri, I look more as an investment into my life. I'm able to do the things (outside of tri) that I want.


Same here. The amount of money we used to spend buying beer has decreased significantly since starting training.

I am very new to the sport and have spent in equipment about $10 so far - for a swim cap and goggles. I am getting a bike for free from a friend in which I'll have to put new tires on, and I'll need to buy a helmet. I am getting a tri suit for Mother's Day and my running shoes are still good. We invested in a treadmill and excercise bike over the last few years, so we're set in that department. Oh, and the daily fee to swim at the rec center.

After this season, I'll decide if this is something I want to continue doing (which everyone I talk to says I will) - at that point, I'll start making a wish list for better gear (a road bike, better goggles, etc.)
2007-04-27 1:16 PM
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I am the worst kind of bargain hunter. Spent a total of $156.92 to buy all the gear, training, motel, food, gas, etc. I borrowed my best friend's road bike for 4 1/2 months, bought a pair of Asics Gel Cumulus running shoes at Ross discount clothing for $20, and the rest for entry and related fees getting to my first tri. I finished 17 out of 31 in my AG and in the top 40% overall. Pretty good ROI in my book. The main thing is I lost 17 lbs. and gained a new addiction. Since then I have spent roughly $2200 on new gear to do off-road tris!!!!!! The trick is to find gently used items and pay rock bottom prices for everything. Some call it cheap, I call it fruggle. I teach high school and my wife stays home. With 2 children in private school, I think you can see why I have a very sharp sense for bargains. I refuse to pay anywhere close to retail. And I don't get caught up in the "this is a once in a lifetime deal" cycle either. I have found that if you miss a deal on a large ticket item, be patient and it will come around again soon.


2007-04-27 2:11 PM
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HotRod - 2007-04-27 1:16 PM  And I don't get caught up in the "this is a once in a lifetime deal" cycle either. I have found that if you miss a deal on a large ticket item, be patient and it will come around again soon.

don't say that too loud...my wife may hear you!!

2007-04-27 3:24 PM
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kbsublime - 2007-04-27 2:11 PM

Same here. The amount of money we used to spend buying beer has decreased significantly since starting training.



I thought beer went under "nutritional expenses (recovery drinks)."
2007-04-27 3:39 PM
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Ok, this is going to come off as over dramatic but:

When I'm totalling this up do I include the ambulance ride?  That was about $1200 I think. 

My tri life helps me deal with the diet changes I've had to make due to my disease.  Sure, many people do it without the insane triathlon addiction but it works for me. 

 

2007-04-27 3:52 PM
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Daremo - 2007-04-27 10:53 AM

Last year I won a 5k running race with around $100 in prizes/gift certificates so I claimed it on my taxes.  This allowed me to take all my tri/running expenses as "hobby" expenses and it worked out to something like $6k or so.

With my frame purchase and the wheels I'm ordering I'm already easily over $4k this year, not including anything else I've bought.

Did you run this by an accountant, because I expect this is not kosher in the eyes of the IRS? Just google "hobby-loss rules":

If you engage in a business with the objective of making a profit, you can generally claim all your proper business deductions. If your business deductions exceed your income for the tax year, you can claim a loss for the year, up to the amount of your taxable income from other activities. Any remaining losses may be carried over into other years.

However, if the IRS deems your business to have no profit motive (an activity not engaged in for profit) your ability to deduct losses is limited to the amount of income generated by the activity. These are the “Hobby Loss Rules” under IRC 183. A “hobby” can not generate a tax loss that can be used to offset other taxable income on your tax return.

 

Absolutely right. Unless you win some prize money, you have to eat your losses. Even if you do win prize money, you can only use your losses to get your prize money income down to zero, but you can't go below zero.

Here's a question I've been interested in - if a coach participates in tris to market his coaching services, can those costs be deducted? Maybe, but it would have to be a very significant source of coaching clients. The cost of a tri bike might be deductible if the coach takes his/her clients on group rides.

Yeah, I'm a tax law geek.

2007-04-27 4:25 PM
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So then no big deal, in each case I only got to claim between $100 and $300 ......... probably why I never got audited for it.  ;-P

(And it was legitimate, I did make the money in the hobby, not trying to cheat the system - just taking advantage or every available credit!!).



Edited by Daremo 2007-04-27 4:26 PM


2007-04-27 4:27 PM
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Here is my 2 cents:  Money, like time, is a limited resource, and I strive to the best with what I have of both.  I also feel that more time or money, if used wisely, could make me faster.  For example, if I had an extra $100-200 a month to spend on a coach, I could probably improve faster than on my own.  Likewise, if I had and extra 10 hours a week, I could train harder/longer and recover better. 

Again, my goal is simply to maximize my potential given my current time and financial constraints.

-David 

2007-04-27 4:41 PM
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Spent on training? Other than pool fees (works out to $2.50 per workout) and occasional tubes, it's pretty miniscule. I don't do a lot of sports drinks, gels and the like, but I'm also not putting in 6 hour training rides. I do sprint and Oly distances, so the long hours just arent needed.

Now if we're talking about my N+1 bike habit, and race fees and travel, that's a whole 'nother deal...
2007-04-27 4:43 PM
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Not sure, afraid to figure it out, but add another $160 to the total as I just bought one of the XTerra 1/2 Price wetsuits (Ventilator Full)
2007-04-27 5:03 PM
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Daremo - 2007-04-27 4:25 PM

So then no big deal, in each case I only got to claim between $100 and $300 ......... probably why I never got audited for it.  ;-P

(And it was legitimate, I did make the money in the hobby, not trying to cheat the system - just taking advantage or every available credit!!).

You actually won some prize money? That's pretty cool. Yes, your deduction was legit.

2007-04-27 5:16 PM
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This is a hobby that can start out very cheap and then take off from there. When I started I already had an old mountain bike which I had owned for over 10 years, so that cost didn't count. I bought some new running shoes, but I like to walk around in running shoes so I would have bought a pair anyway. In incurred some pool fees. I entered two races last year - a tri for $75 and a du for $20. The tri was 50 miles away, so if I wanted to be picky I could factor in gas costs, but I won't. Overall costs for 2006 for myself were about $150, $200 at most. My wife purchased a new bike (entry-level TREK) and did two events. So total household costs were around $1,000

This year - three bikes purchased (a road and MTB for me, an MTB for the wife), a Cycleops, two Spinervals DVDs. My wife thought it would be fun to do some travelling to some tris. I'll probably do at least two charity road rides. If I can start running again without pain, perhaps one tri in August. This year will be a little more.

If you look for deals, you don't have to travel to get to your races, and you primarily do sprints and Oly distances, I would say this hobby is no more, and probably way less, than hobbies such as golf or hunting. The rewards, however, are much greater than other hobbies. Obviously, this all changes once you get into carbon frames and Iron distances, but the rewards are still worth the costs, IMO.

In the end, it's cheaper than a quadruple bypass.



Edited by MikeTheBear 2007-04-27 5:20 PM


2007-04-28 10:57 AM
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I spend a lot on my tri training and racing stuff, and nutrition. But it's less than the guys at work spend on booze, restaurant food, gambling, and travel to enjoy booze, restaurant food, and gambling... somewhere other than here. For their trouble they get big guts, high blood pressure, and fatigue. My mental illness hobby is restorative, and it keeps me in the kind of shape they say they are going to get in when they decide they're fat and out of shape and need to do something about it... about once a quarter.

 

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