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2007-07-03 4:22 PM

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Subject: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??

So I did a small (294 people) sprint triathlon over the weekend, did well for me, and was content with finishing #7 of 21 in my AG (M45-49) and #30 overall.  The official rankings show me as #6 in my AG, but the overall winner was 49 so they took him out of the AG ranking... I still know I was 7th! 

But when I looked at the results, this is how I would have placed in younger age groups:

If I were 44:    3rd place

If I were 39:    6th place

If I were 34:    6th place

If I were 29:    4th place

If I were 24:    2nd place

The M45-49 was the most competitive AG in the race.  What's up with that??!!

 

 

 



2007-07-03 4:25 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Darn kids and their skateboards on the sidewalks playing the XBox360s.
2007-07-03 4:29 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Yup!  My HIM time last year (nothing great) would have put me 4th in the 65-69 AG (out of 4), so even holding my current speed for 22 more years wouldn't get me a top-3 finish. 
2007-07-03 4:35 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??

Older guys generally:

  1. Have money for fun Tri toys
  2. Have money for races
  3. Don't have small kids to take care of
  4. Have been working out for a lot of years

Us young guys just barely finished school and now we got babies at home sucking up all our time.  Give us a break!

 

2007-07-03 4:39 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??

Same way 'round here, the three AG between 35 and 49 are usually the most competitive.

 

2007-07-03 4:41 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Yeah, I won't be competitive until after I retire.


2007-07-03 4:42 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
tkbslc - 2007-07-03 4:35 PM

Older guys generally:

  1. Have money for fun Tri toys
  2. Have money for races
  3. Don't have small kids to take care of
  4. Have been working out for a lot of years

Us young guys just barely finished school and now we got babies at home sucking up all our time.  Give us a break!

 

 

bingo!

2007-07-03 4:42 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
I did the 5430 sprint in Boulder a few weeks ago.  VERY early in the bike I got smoked by a 62 year old woman (I am 42)!  And her wave started 10 minutes behind me!  At least I was humble for the rest of the race. 

Edited by dougdia 2007-07-03 4:43 PM
2007-07-03 4:50 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Yea this past weekend was a bit of a shocker my age group was the 2nd most competive 35-39 was the most. But typically 20-24 is a cake walk on the smaller races.
2007-07-03 4:55 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
I can't wait 'til I'm 90! Then I'm cleaning up, baby!
2007-07-03 5:00 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Same around here (that and the 40-44 AG). Funny to see the overall listings, which show AG placing. 1st-5th OA are 1st in their AG as well. Then the stackings start to show... 40-44 and 45-49 stack up the fastest, often with the top 5 before 2nd or 3rd inthe younger age brackets.


2007-07-03 5:07 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
tkbslc - 2007-07-03 2:35 PM

Older guys generally:

  1. Have money for fun Tri toys
  2. Have money for races
  3. Don't have small kids to take care of
  4. Have been working out for a lot of years

Us young guys just barely finished school and now we got babies at home sucking up all our time. Give us a break!



Semi-seriously: Why a "break"? You made your choices. 1.-3. are/were totally under your control.

But this is a whole other can of worms than the one the OP intended to open, I bet
2007-07-03 5:08 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
tkbslc - 2007-07-03 4:35 PM

Older guys generally:

  1. Have money for fun Tri toys
  2. Have money for races
  3. Don't have small kids to take care of
  4. Have been working out for a lot of years

I hear ya and agree with all except #4.  Lots of us spend our 20s getting an education and having lots of fun (ie, never a thought about working out).  Then spend our 30s starting a family and a career (ie, never time for working out).  Then our 40s wondering how we got so out of shape (ie, time to start working out!).

2007-07-03 5:11 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
tkbslc - 2007-07-03 4:35 PM

Older guys generally:

  1. Have money for fun Tri toys
  2. Have money for races
  3. Don't have small kids to take care of
  4. Have been working out for a lot of years

Us young guys just barely finished school and now we got babies at home sucking up all our time.  Give us a break!

 

 I would say is MAINLY #4. That shows that it takes time to develop endurance speed and how consistency a JFT pays a lot more than any toys or magic training approaches! although we all know that us 30-34 AGers are the fastest at any distance
2007-07-03 5:15 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??

Go check out the annual report on MarathonGuide.com.

They compile a big list of marathon results (Just about every race to be had) and every year derive a bunch of statistics from the database. (You can also get all of your race results in one place)

I have only been marathoning for 2 years but both 2005 and 2006 reports show the fastest AG is 40-45. (My AG) Not too shabby for us old guys with Adult Onset Fitness.

2007-07-03 5:53 PM
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amiine - 2007-07-03 6:11 PM 

 I would say is MAINLY #4. That shows that it takes time to develop endurance speed and how consistency a JFT pays a lot more than any toys or magic training approaches! although we all know that us 30-34 AGers are the fastest at any distance

That depends on which race you go to my friend.



2007-07-03 6:00 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
It's a new acronym:

FOP, MOP, BOP, and now FOG; Fast Old Guys.
2007-07-03 7:37 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Same for women.  Two of my last three races, I finished in the bottom 1/3rd of my age group (45-49), but would have won the 30-34 age group.   I still chuckle about my 5 miler where I ran a 9:15 pace.  Not blazing fast, but I thought decent.  Placed something like 10/12 women in my AG.  Geez, and I thought I was doing good going sub10.  LOL!!!!!  Actually, it's all good and I LOVE seeing us "older" folks do well.  It is very inspiring to me. 
2007-07-03 7:48 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
MikeJ - 2007-07-03 5:53 PM

amiine - 2007-07-03 6:11 PM 

 I would say is MAINLY #4. That shows that it takes time to develop endurance speed and how consistency a JFT pays a lot more than any toys or magic training approaches! although we all know that us 30-34 AGers are the fastest at any distance

That depends on which race you go to my friend.

I guess you missed the smiley winky face there... let me post it again >>>
2007-07-03 8:39 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??

As a fairly competitive 46 year old (1:17 half marathon a couple weeks ago) that attended grad school for way too many years and have been running continuously since about 1976 (this is only my second full season of tris) ...my wife and I didn't want kids.....I have a very tiny violin I can play for you younger guys to soothe your sorrows     Stop looking for excuses and get out there and train 

Although I have the money to buy a carbon TT bike my wife would rather have a garage for our house, so I'm stuck with a crappy road bike with stock wheels and clip-ons and still go 23+ mph in shorter races and love to pass younger guys with carbon TT bikes and Zipp discs...so there goes the money argument.  Its all about your engine, not the tri toys you own.

(I just couldn't resist with this tongue in cheek reply....although the part about loving to kick younger guys @sses was serious....it's not intended at anyone personally   )



Edited by Birkierunner 2007-07-03 9:06 PM
2007-07-03 9:05 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Birkierunner - 2007-07-03 7:39 PM

As a fairly competitive 46 year old (1:17 half marathon a couple weeks ago) that attended grad school for way too many years and have been running continuously since about 1976 (this is only my second full season of tris) ...and my wife didn't want kids.....I have a very tiny violin I can play for you younger guys to soothe your sorrows     Stop looking for excuses and get out there and train 

Although I have the money to buy a carbon TT bike my wife would rather have a garage for our house, so I'm stuck with a crappy road bike with stock wheels and clip-ons and still go 23+ mph in shorter races and love to pass younger guys with carbon TT bikes and Zipp discs...so there goes the money argument.  Its all about your engine, not the tri toys you own.

(I just couldn't resist with this tongue in cheek reply....although the part about loving to kick younger guys @sses was serious....it's not intended at anyone personally   )

Birkierunner!   King of the FOGs!

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2007-07-04 3:47 AM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Around here, the guy who wins all the sprints is in the 40-44 AG, which also seems to be the most competetive generally. At 42, that gives me three years to build a tri base to move up to the next AG and have a slightly better chance.

40-44 seems to be the nexus of athletic ability with time and money for training and equipment.
2007-07-04 7:50 AM
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Age? My coach is in her mid forties and took twentieth overall at Alcatraz!

ROAR BABY ROAR!

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2007-07-04 11:44 AM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
Here is an interesting perspective from a running coach for us SOG's (Slower Old Guyz) to feel better.(47 here) Also might explain why so many old guys are fast, though I don't agree with everything he says.

http://www.runwashington.com/features/trainprogression.html
2007-07-04 1:27 PM
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Subject: RE: What's up with all the Fast Old Guys??
I've decided I'm a TIFTIRA: Think I'm Faster Than I Really Am.
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