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2007-07-28 3:13 PM

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Subject: LeMond needs doping scandals

I posted this in another thread, but here's my hypothesis:  Gre LeMond needs doping scandals.  Why you may ask?

Think about it, when was the last time that Greg LeMond got any face time for anything other than talking about doping in cycling?  Doping scandals give LeMond the opportunity to get his miserable mug on T.V., and then it allows him to remind us how he is the greatest living cyclist and certainly the greatest living American cyclist.  The fact that Lance is famous and considered one of the greatest athletes ever kills LeMond. (Greg seems to ignore the fact that all LeMond ever did with his fame is lend his name to a line of bikes and take time every year to bad mouth every cyclist that has come after him, while Lance has helped raise 100's of millions of dollars for cancer research)

Yup, without doping in cycling, Greg Lemond would never be heard from again.  We would never see him interviewed, he would disappear.  All he would be is an answer in a trial pursuats game.  Greg LeMOnd needs doping, without it he would fade away.

And truthfully that's the best reason yet to clean up the sport!



2007-07-29 8:47 AM
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What I find so funny about Greg Lemond and doping is the knowledge that he still holds the fastest time trial average speed ever.  Now....if as he suggests....everyone who is a contender dopes, wouldn't they have beaten his speed by now?  Better bikes, windtunnels, training?  Just sayin'
2007-07-29 3:24 PM
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This has been posted before on here and on ST but it is still funny as h3ll!

Minneapolis, MN -- Greg Lemond today released a statement that said he has, reluctantly and with great sadness, been forced to add the 2006 Tour de France to the long list of tours that he should have won. Lemond initially believed, and was even quoted in an earlier interview as saying, that this was the first clean Tour de France in many years. However, in light of the recent positive doping test of tour winner Floyd Landis, Lemond has concluded that, in all likelihood, he himself should have won the tour this year.

This brings the total number of Tours de France That Lemond Should Have Won (TDFTLSHW) to 167. Lemond first won the tour in 1986. However, as he has explained many times over the years since, he should have won the Tour in 1985, but was lied to by Bernard Hinault and cheated out of the race victory. Lemond next should have won the Tour in 1987 and 1988, but was incapacitated by a shotgun blast from his brother-in-law. While the incident was ruled an accident by the police, Lemond believes that his brother-in-law was working with Hinault and a young Texan by the name of Lance Armstrong to remove him from the sport.

Lemond came back to win the Tour in 1989 and 1990, but lost in 1991 due to the fact that, as incredible as it may sound, every other rider in the Tour de France besides Lemond was taking performance enhancing drugs. Lemond believes these drugs were supplied by Bernard Hinault, who realized that if nothing were done, Lemond would continue to win the Tour for the next 50 years. The drug-tainted Tour would continue through 2005, including the reign of Lance Armstrong. In the absence of doping, Lemond clearly would have won the Tour from 1991 to 2005, bringing the total number of TDFTLSHW to 21.

Going back before 1985, Lemond believes that in all likelihood, he would have won the Tour de France each year since his birth in 1961 if a) he had known about it and b) he had not had the small stature and limited leg length common to children between the ages of 0 and 10. As Lemond explains, clearly it would be unfair to him to discount the Tour wins he should have achieved were he only able to reach the pedals of his bicycle. This brings the TDFTLSHW to 45.

While Lemond concedes that some may believe him to be "stretching it" by including in his TDFTLSHW years from Tours before his birth, he claims that if one is to think about it logically, the only possible conclusion is that the greatest bike rider in the history of the Tour would absolutely have won the Tour since its inception in 1903, if only he had been alive at that time. It was not Greg Lemond's fault that his parents were not alive and able to conceive him in time to ride the initial Tour in 1903; thus, it would be unfair to strip him of the Tour wins that he rightly should have been awarded.

Note that there have been 11 years since its creation in 1903 that the Tour de France was not held due to the two World Wars. Clearly, stopping the Tour due to worldwide war would have been unfair to Greg Lemond, had he been alive, and would have in all likelihood, been a move orchestrated by Bernard Hinault, had he himself been alive, to keep Lemond from winning the tour. Thus, Lemond believes that these years should also be included in the TDFTLSHW, giving him a total of 103 wins.

Finally, Lemond explains that he has included the years between the invention of the bicycle to the first Tour de France (1839 to 1903) in the TDFTLSHW. Had the French had the foresight to create the Tour de France in a more timely manner, Lemond would have definitely won it each and every year, again assuming he had been alive (see above). Obviously Lemond cannot be blaimed for the shortsightedness and general ineptitude of the French, and therefore the victory from the Tours de France that should have been held in these years must be credited to Lemond, bringing the final tally of TDFTLSHW to 167.

Note that while Lemond has not yet been able to rationalize including years before the invention of the bicycle in the TDFTLSHW, he has created a company to pursue such an effort. The company is hard at work on a rationalization and hopes to produce one for him within the year.

2007-07-29 4:46 PM
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rocketman:  That's Great!!!
2007-07-29 8:44 PM
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There were definately rumors about Lemond doping in the late 80's. Look at the chipmonk cheeks he had in 1989. Now I realize that the cheeks and huge legs that he gained after the shooting accident do not indicate that he was guilty, but it is interesting to see his change from before the accident to after.
2007-07-30 9:22 AM
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Of course Lemond was doping.


2007-07-30 9:41 AM
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Dear Greg,

Bitter is not pretty.

Love,

The World

2007-08-17 1:11 PM
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Those who point fingers the most, usually have something to hide.  That is why they are always pointing towards someone else, so no one looks closely at them.

IMHO. 

2007-08-24 1:23 PM
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and the fact that when he beat Fignon, everybody said he cheated because he used those clip on areo bars (Scott DH clip ons.. I have a set in my garage; Fignon used the old style cowhorns) and that gave him a huge advantage. Many felt he should have been disqualified (Ok well just the French did) since technically tehy had not been approved by the UCI at the time/ Lemond has unfortuantely become a very bitter ex pro.

And to think I use to look up to this jerk!
2007-08-24 4:43 PM
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I had a chance to get a hell of a deal on a LeMond bicycle. I just could not stomach the idea of putting money in that mans pocket.
2007-08-24 6:07 PM
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weasel dinkus I thinkus is the term for a certain EX bicycle racer who shall remain clueless nameless.


 

Eddie Mercxx.  I want to ride with that guy!



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2007-08-28 11:13 PM
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I wonder who Lance is talking about. 



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