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2007-08-02 7:35 PM

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Subject: bike fit help

Below are the results of my competitive cyclist fit calculator (I entered my details in inches)...


GenderM
Inseam35 in
Trunk26 in
Forearm15.5 in
Arm27.8 in
Thigh25.8 in
Lower Leg23.25 in
Sternal Notch61.25 in
Total Body Height73.5 in



 The Aero Fit
Top Tube Range58.6 - 60.6
Stem Length Range8.0 - 10.0
Saddle-Bottom Bracket Position80.0
Saddle-Pedal Position97.2
Saddle-Ground Position105.0
Cranklength177.5
Aero Bar SizeL
Saddle-Aero Bar Pad Drop Minimal8.0
Saddle-Aero Bar Pad Drop Moderate13.6
Saddle-Aero Bar Pad Drop Intense16.0
Saddle-Aero Bar Pad Drop Maximal20.0
Pad-Ground Position Minimal97.0
Pad-Ground Position Moderate91.4
Pad-Ground Position Intense89.0
Pad-Ground Position Maximal85.0

The fit calculator says that I should be focusing on top tube range (58.6 to 60.6 for me)... but not sure how that equates to top tube length (one problem is the lack of UNITS on either chart for conversions???).

78 Degree Seattube Angle (forward seatpost position)
SizeWheel SizeHead Tube AngleBB DropTop TubeHead Tube LengthFront CenterRear CenterStand Over HeightStackReach
48650c72°43490110568368716461389
51700c72.5°6051090586380746482405
54700c72.5°60530120609380776512418
56700c72.5°60545140626380795531429
58700c72.5°60560160643380815550440
61700c72.5°60574190659380840577448

75 Degree Seattube Angle (shallow seatpost position)
SizeWheel SizeHead Tube AngleBB DropTop TubeHead Tube LengthFront CenterRear CenterStand Over HeightStackReach
48650c72°43514110568368716461389
51700c72.5°6053590586380746482405
54700c72.5°60557120609380776512418
56700c72.5°60573140626380795531429
58700c72.5°60589160643380815550440
61700c72.5°60604190659380840577448

Bottom line... if I'm considering a used cervelo, and can't be professionally fit until after I take delivery... what size frame is most likely to be right (I understand there's no certainty)?

Thanks in advance for any input!



Edited by JoshKaptur 2007-08-02 7:36 PM


2007-08-03 6:58 AM
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Master
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Subject: RE: bike fit help
bump... please help...
2007-08-03 7:38 AM
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I'll take an uneducated stab at it.

The top tube lengths in your chart are in millimeters, divide by 10 to get centimeters, which is what your fit calculator produces.

There is nothing in your range for the steep seat tube angle, but going by the shallow angle chart I would start with the 58 and see how that fits. But you don't have that luxury, do you?

2007-08-03 12:43 PM
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Subject: RE: bike fit help
Let me first say that this is just my experience - and the real answer would come from a proper fitting. At least for me, the fitting had a lot to do with flexibility as well, not just measurements. The measurements may tell you to get a longer top tube, but if you’re not flexible enough to reach it, then you won’t be comfortable and performance WILL suffer.

That being said, I had the EXACT same problem/issue a couple days ago when I got my current bike professionally fit again.

After the fitting, I asked my LBS about getting a new Cervelo bike for next season. He first said that I should use the measurement from the rear seat position (75 degrees). I don't know why. I don’t know if it is a rule of thumb or specific to me.

My competitive cyclist numbers had me on a 61cm top tube. That is also what my LBS would have liked to see me on and would suggest that for my new Cervelo.

HOWEVER, my current bike is a 59cm top tube and we were able to get a great fit by adjusting the seat, stem, and aero bars. He says that we were pushing the limits, but it still worked well.

I have also noticed in all my looking/research, it seems people tend to get a tri bike that appears to be one size smaller than what these numbers suggest or what you would get for a road bike. As if the tri bikes are to be a little more compact.

After all that, I think the 58 and the 61 can both be made to fit well – But I think that 61 could give you more flexibility for future modifications to your position. The 58 “may” limit you a bit.

That was pretty long winded just to agree with "the bear"! I guess an "x2" could have worked!

Hope this helps and good luck!
2007-08-03 1:04 PM
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Subject: RE: bike fit help

Thank you both for your feedback.  I have an opportunity to pick up a slightly used 58, and I'm nervous that I really need the 61. 

Decisions!

2007-08-03 9:28 PM
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Subject: RE: bike fit help
Generally its easier to fit someone to a smaller frame then it is to a larger frame. Id bounce over to slowtwitch.com and bikesportmichigan.com and read everything that I could on fit and then ask questions and then more questions. If you can get a good deal on a used bike go for it. Consider this though, if you are only saving 300.00 or so, how much is it going to cost you to get fit plus swap out your stem, saddle, aerobars, etc?


2007-08-04 9:44 AM
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Subject: RE: bike fit help

Agreeing with everyone elses responses so far.

There's more to fit than just the numbers.  Flexability has a lot to do with set-up. 

Any chance a local shop will do a preliminary fit for you just to get you in the right size?  Then order afterwords?

2007-08-04 9:53 AM
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Subject: RE: bike fit help
Try some of the bike doctor stores. I know the one in Arnold had a few (maybe 3 different ones?) of the Cervelos there about a month ago. The carry more tri bikes than any other store in the area I've seen. They alos had a few Cannondale tri bikes in stock.
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