Qualifying for Kona (Page 2)
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2007-08-28 11:23 AM in reply to: #943902 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona bryancd - 2007-08-28 10:57 AM Yes, and he was kind enough to PM me to explain that as well . I definately agree that having home field advantage for a race is a VERY big plus for all the reasons listed above. I was very comfortable with the course and was able to spend the days leading into the race in a state of relative calm as I was home. My friend Alex (winner of IMLP this year) went up to train the LP course something like 4-6 times. He did race rehearsals in terms of pace, nutrition and habits before and during training. He even practiced his nutrition and routine the day before of a big rehearsal as if it was the day before the race. Coming up race day there was no surprises, he knew exactly what each portion of the race felt like and what to expect. He didn’t have a good bike ride, but he knew he could push hard on the run as long as he could stay focused and fueling. He passed the leader with 2-3 miles to go to! If I was going to race an IM with the goal of KQ (maybe soon ) I would chooose a race that would suit my strenghts and accessible for training at least a few times before the big day over a relative "easier" IM race to which I had not access at all. |
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2007-08-28 11:24 AM in reply to: #943922 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona Daremo - 2007-08-28 12:07 PM Marvarnett - 2007-08-28 11:22 AM That's like telling Craig Alexander 2 yrs ago that he doesn't know anything about KQing because he hasn't done an IM yet. Or, telling him that now...because he hasn't done an IM yet (until Kona this year). (But of course Dan didn't mean that as Craig did IM Australia earlier in the year as a prep. race and got 3rd overall ....... Rounding out the top three was Craig Alexander in his Ironman debut. Never having run a marathon before, Alexander stayed steady even though he ran most of the run alone and says he learned a lot. ) What have I told you about confusing me with the FACTS?! Plus, the only reason he went up to IM is because we have raced twice and he was lucky enough to beat me. (the racing head to head twice part is true...not the lucky part so much) |
2007-08-28 11:28 AM in reply to: #934621 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona Lot's of good info coming up here, I'm going to link this thread to my "What it Takes" thread.. |
2007-08-28 11:37 AM in reply to: #943961 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona amiine - 2007-08-28 12:23 PM If I was going to race an IM with the goal of KQ (maybe soon ) ..... What? |
2007-08-28 11:44 AM in reply to: #943991 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona LaurenSU02 - 2007-08-28 12:37 PM amiine - 2007-08-28 12:23 PM If I was going to race an IM with the goal of KQ (maybe soon ) ..... What? Exactly what I was going to put Lauren ........ I knew his talk of not being interested in doing an IM was all just a ploy for everyone to let their guard down. Edited by Daremo 2007-08-28 11:45 AM |
2007-08-28 11:47 AM in reply to: #944008 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona Daremo - 2007-08-28 12:44 PM LaurenSU02 - 2007-08-28 12:37 PM amiine - 2007-08-28 12:23 PM If I was going to race an IM with the goal of KQ (maybe soon ) ..... What? Exactly what I was going to put Lauren ........ I knew his talk of not being interested in doing an IM was all just a ploy for everyone to let their guard down. Well, at least for me, if he does decide to do an IM, I'll have to opportunity to jump up and down in his face and say, "I told you so. I told you so." Jorge, where did you go? Please respond. |
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2007-08-28 1:16 PM in reply to: #944014 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona LaurenSU02 - 2007-08-28 11:47 AM Daremo - 2007-08-28 12:44 PM LaurenSU02 - 2007-08-28 12:37 PM amiine - 2007-08-28 12:23 PM If I was going to race an IM with the goal of KQ (maybe soon ) ..... What? Exactly what I was going to put Lauren ........ I knew his talk of not being interested in doing an IM was all just a ploy for everyone to let their guard down. Well, at least for me, if he does decide to do an IM, I'll have to opportunity to jump up and down in his face and say, "I told you so. I told you so." Jorge, where did you go? Please respond. I said 'maybe' soon, not how soon! Plus 1st I have a little 70.3 goal to conquer... |
2007-08-28 1:24 PM in reply to: #944216 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona amiine - 2007-08-28 2:16 PM LaurenSU02 - 2007-08-28 11:47 AM I said 'maybe' soon, not how soon! Plus 1st I have a little 70.3 goal to conquer... Well, "maybe soon" is a far cry from "never" and "no interest." |
2007-08-28 1:24 PM in reply to: #944216 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona amiine - 2007-08-28 2:16 PM [ I said 'maybe' soon, not how soon! Plus 1st I have a little 70.3 goal to conquer... I'm flattered...but you souldn't let wanting to beat me at clearwater stop your IronMan dreams. Actually...I think you should start training for IM now! Lots of SLOW RUNS...LONG BIKES... I do this to help YOU!! |
2007-08-28 1:24 PM in reply to: #944216 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona amiine - 2007-08-28 2:16 PM I said 'maybe' soon, not how soon! Plus 1st I have a little 70.3 goal to conquer... Well, "maybe soon" is a far cry from "never" and "no interest." Edited by LaurenSU02 2007-08-28 1:26 PM |
2007-08-28 1:30 PM in reply to: #944240 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona Marvarnett - 2007-08-28 1:24 PM I know I know... you are always looking after my Tri-training, you are such a good friend... NOOOOOOOTTT!!! >>> insert here Borat's accent <<< amiine - 2007-08-28 2:16 PM [ I said 'maybe' soon, not how soon! Plus 1st I have a little 70.3 goal to conquer... I'm flattered...but you souldn't let wanting to beat me at clearwater stop your IronMan dreams. Actually...I think you should start training for IM now! Lots of SLOW RUNS...LONG BIKES... I do this to help YOU!! |
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2007-08-28 1:35 PM in reply to: #944242 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona LaurenSU02 - 2007-08-28 1:24 PM hey hey hey, I never said never.. I did say I currently have no interest in that distance, but since I am getting old, who knows amiine - 2007-08-28 2:16 PM I said 'maybe' soon, not how soon! Plus 1st I have a little 70.3 goal to conquer... Well, "maybe soon" is a far cry from "never" and "no interest." Anyway, let's stop the thread hijack and bring it back on topic - The OP was calling some of you arrogant or something... (of course this is only a joke!!!) |
2007-08-28 1:50 PM in reply to: #943821 |
Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona bryancd - 2007-08-28 11:28 AM What?! I am just reading through this too and spit my water all over my computer.... What what what????? |
2007-08-28 2:00 PM in reply to: #944300 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona gadzinm - 2007-08-28 1:50 PM bryancd - 2007-08-28 11:28 AM What?! I am just reading through this too and spit my water all over my computer.... What what what????? Apparently red text is the universal font of sarcasm! |
2007-08-28 2:09 PM in reply to: #934621 |
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2007-08-29 10:44 AM in reply to: #934621 |
Member 30 Plainsboro NJ | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona To me trying to find an "easier" Ironman to qualify for Kona and trying to travel to an Ironman that suits ones needs are one in the same. At least that was the question I was trying to ask. I want to participate in an Ironman that gives me the best chance to qualify. There might not be one out there for me, but I will still try. I was just upset because some of you guys seemed to jump all over me because I used the word easy, we all know there is nothing easy about Ironman. I used that term for lack of a better word. |
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2007-08-29 11:10 AM in reply to: #945681 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Qualifying for Kona fitrunner2 - 2007-08-29 10:44 AM To me trying to find an "easier" Ironman to qualify for Kona and trying to travel to an Ironman that suits ones needs are one in the same. At least that was the question I was trying to ask. I want to participate in an Ironman that gives me the best chance to qualify. There might not be one out there for me, but I will still try. I was just upset because some of you guys seemed to jump all over me because I used the word easy, we all know there is nothing easy about Ironman. I used that term for lack of a better word. Fair enough, and I don't think anyone was trying to make out that you were looing for an easy out. You asked a relevant question. The data is out there, either from the study posted, which is exactly what you are asking, or on the various web sites for the races, you can back study the qualifying times in your AG to get an idea on what the course is willing to give in terms of time and the depth of the competition that seems to show up. For me, IMAZ was a no brainer as it's in my backyard, literally. I researched the previous year K.Q. times and went intot he race figuring a sub 10 hour race would do it. Turns out the final qualifier was 9:59 whereas the previous year a 10:10 wopuld have done it. So that's the part where you just never know. Whatever the slowest K.Q. time is at a race, you have to plan to beat it handily. I think, due to increasing popularity, all the US races are simuilar in terms of the quality of competition. Races with 80 slots are better as you have more opportunity. I wouldn't consider European races, those guy's are BLAZING fast. I hear New Zealand has a decent slot allocation and offers some good opportunity. The Aussie racers are fast, so I wouldn't go there. The Asian IM's probably offer the best bet but the races are often contested in extreme heat. This si just anectodale stuff I have picked up off of IronmanTalk podcast over the last year. Edited by bryancd 2007-08-29 11:11 AM |
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