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More bike-friendly cities in the USA
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 2007-09-04 11:02 AM |
Expert  1244    New York |  Subject: More bike-friendly cities in the USASaw this article in the NY Times today...gotta love any city that's trying to be more bike friendly. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/04/nyregion/04bicycle.html They should take a cue from Europe--I lived in the Netherlands, and even in a busy and crazy congested city like Amsterdam, somehow everyone gets along on the road, whether on four wheels or two. It would be such a dream come true if NYC became easily maneuverable on a bike... |
| 2007-09-04 11:16 AM in reply to: #951466 |
Champion 7821   Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA Thee have been significant improvements, that's for sure. There's still lots of work to be done in that many of the bike lanes are in such poor condition that they're probably less safe than riding on the street. I'm not a fan of Critical Mass because I think they do more harm than good. It's impossible to "overwhelm the city with bikes" as the organizers have said they hope to do. Too many cabs, too many cars, etc. All they can expect to do is snarl traffic for a while and aggravate motorists. And those same motorists are the people who might one day be expected to vote on allocating more money to bike lanes and other bike friendly construction. They're not going to be thinking of the positive environmental impact to the city. They're going to remember the time a bunch of idiot cyclists made them miss their dentist appointment because they blocked traffic for 5 blocks. |
| 2007-09-04 4:32 PM in reply to: #951466 |
Pro 6582 Melbourne FL Gold member | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA The past 2 summers I spent a week in Ottawa and in Montreal and both have some awesome bike/ped/blading paths throughout the cities. The culture differences make it possible to enjoy it too, I've never had so many vehicles slow down/stop to give me the right away. I didn't realize Chicago was building an biking/ped infastructure. Isn't the Minni/St.Paul a good area too? It'll never happen in FL, can't even get $ to build the roads that we need and only recently have they been adding bike lanes to road they are making/redoing. And not to mention morons driving the roads! |
| 2007-09-04 8:32 PM in reply to: #951466 |
Pro 4292 Evanston, | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA From the article:
“We are really emphasizing connectivity in the bicycle lane network, because all cyclists, myself included, know that it’s maddening to be coming along a lane and have it simply end and leave you off on your own on a big avenue.” Ain't THAT the truth? |
| 2007-09-04 9:30 PM in reply to: #951466 |
Master 1249 Lexington, Kentucky | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA They have been doing a lot of re-paving in my city. (Maybe it's preparation for the 2010 World Equestrian Games) - I'm thrilled that they are marking off bike lanes on just about every road they've paved. |
| 2007-09-04 10:55 PM in reply to: #951938 |
Veteran 206 Minneapolis, Minnesota | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA |
| 2007-09-05 8:36 AM in reply to: #952211 |
Veteran 312 | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA kaitlinrose - 2007-09-04 10:55 PM Donto - 2007-09-04 4:32 PM Isn't the Minni/St.Paul a good area too? Yup! True dat. |
| 2007-09-05 8:42 AM in reply to: #951466 |
Elite 4235 Spring, TX | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA I think when you say "bike-friendly" there are two different ways of looking at it: 1. A good city to do your training rides. Lots of places to ride, lots of hills, good scenery, etc. or 2. A good city to commute in and ride around downtown to get where you are going. These are two very different things. I consider San Antonio a great city for cycling, but I couldn't commute on a bike if I had to. |
| 2007-09-05 9:02 AM in reply to: #951466 |
Expert 844 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA I'm still a fan of the current bike friendly champ.... Colorado.. with more miles of Bike Trails then anywhere else in the nation. The city of Boulder is an excellent example of a bike loving city.. I think it might be illegal to not ride your bike at to at least 50% of your destinations in town. Edited by climbin5414 2007-09-05 9:03 AM |
| 2007-09-05 9:05 AM in reply to: #951466 |
Master 2946 Centennial, CO | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA The idea that bicycle friendly must include both commuting and training is a good point. Colorado while having many trails has a speed limit of 15 mph on them. So they are not good for training. And drivers here are not as bike friendly as you would expect. That being said if you brave the roads for training, you will not be disappointed. |
| 2007-09-05 10:01 AM in reply to: #952383 |
| Master 1277 | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA OrbeaMan - 2007-09-05 8:42 AM I think when you say "bike-friendly" there are two different ways of looking at it: 1. A good city to do your training rides. Lots of places to ride, lots of hills, good scenery, etc. or 2. A good city to commute in and ride around downtown to get where you are going. These are two very different things. I consider San Antonio a great city for cycling, but I couldn't commute on a bike if I had to. Nah... but I'm considering the Bike On Bus that VIA Offers. If I could only find a route that ran from 10 & 1604 to 10 and Medical. Their site is not the most friendly \: |
| 2007-09-05 10:05 AM in reply to: #952492 |
Elite 4235 Spring, TX | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA Tri-FatBoy - 2007-09-05 10:01 AM Nah... but I'm considering the Bike On Bus that VIA Offers. If I could only find a route that ran from 10 & 1604 to 10 and Medical. Their site is not the most friendly \: That's what the access roads are for! |
| 2007-09-05 3:02 PM in reply to: #952411 |
Expert 844 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA velocomp - 2007-09-05 9:05 AM The idea that bicycle friendly must include both commuting and training is a good point. Colorado while having many trails has a speed limit of 15 mph on them. So they are not good for training. And drivers here are not as bike friendly as you would expect. That being said if you brave the roads for training, you will not be disappointed. I never noticed those speed limits... perhaps I was going too fast to see them... |
| 2007-09-05 6:24 PM in reply to: #953033 |
Veteran 206 Minneapolis, Minnesota | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA climbin5414 - 2007-09-05 3:02 PM velocomp - 2007-09-05 9:05 AM I never noticed those speed limits... perhaps I was going too fast to see them...The idea that bicycle friendly must include both commuting and training is a good point. Colorado while having many trails has a speed limit of 15 mph on them. So they are not good for training. And drivers here are not as bike friendly as you would expect. That being said if you brave the roads for training, you will not be disappointed. Ha! That reminds me of how proud I felt when one of my non-biker friends was expressing frustration with all the people riding on the road when there was a designated bike trail a few feet away. I said, "Um, I do that." "Why?" he demanded. "I ride faster than the speed limit on the bike trail." (Of course, the limit on this particular trail was 10 mph. Not hard to break that limit.) |
| 2007-09-05 6:39 PM in reply to: #953033 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA climbin5414 - 2007-09-05 1:02 PM velocomp - 2007-09-05 9:05 AM The idea that bicycle friendly must include both commuting and training is a good point. Colorado while having many trails has a speed limit of 15 mph on them. So they are not good for training. And drivers here are not as bike friendly as you would expect. That being said if you brave the roads for training, you will not be disappointed. I never noticed those speed limits... perhaps I was going too fast to see them... The limit on the trails does exist - but I didn't pay much attention unless there were others on the trail. But I could get to ANYWHERE in the city on trails or in bike lanes. It was awesome. Plus the amount of training ride was amazing - if you like hills. The trip to Evergreen, Conifer, ect. was so much fun. PLUS the MTN bike trails...... Man, I miss it..... sigh.... |
| 2007-09-05 6:58 PM in reply to: #952407 |
Extreme Veteran 482 | Subject: RE: More bike-friendly cities in the USA Colorado...here we come. |
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