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Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: waskelton on 2006-06-30 9:13 AM
Ok.. So i'm a clyde... I love being a Clyde.. I am proud to be a Clyde..
Check out the pictures from my latest race.. three of me in the race and one of the 1st place clyde getting his trophy...
just sayin....
http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/photos/photo-thumbnails.as...
Will
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: OldAg92 on 2006-06-30 9:18 AM
I'm right there with ya Will. Being tall, barely over 200, and ripped like a pro athlete is not being a Clyde, IMHO. I still wouldn't win anything if these guys were forced to race age group, but I just think it is funny that these guys are registering as "clydes." Take a look at me, at guys like Michael Pate...those of us out there huffing and puffing and happy to see the finish line at ANY speed....now, THAT is a clyde!
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: scoobysdad on 2006-06-30 9:27 AM
What about those of us who are "tweeners"? I'm 5'9" with an optimal weight of 190. I can't compete with these wispy little jackrabbits in my AG, but if I put on 10 to race Clydes, well, it wouldn't be pretty. Oh well. -
RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: The Mac on 2006-06-30 9:32 AM
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=47207&posts=40&start=1
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: Writebrained on 2006-06-30 9:34 AM
BIG congrats!
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: KSH on 2006-06-30 9:38 AM
I totally agree with you.
They should do Clydesdale based on weight/height/AND BODY FAT%.
Come on, that guy who won 1st... what BS! He's ripped... not an example of what a clydesdale should be.
We had a guy in our tri group who was a clydesdale who looked like that guy, and of course he came in first everytime... but I thought it was just wrong that he kept winning in THAT category... because he was too fit!
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: waskelton on 2006-06-30 9:44 AM
OldAg92 - 2006-06-30 9:18 AM
I'm right there with ya Will. Being tall, barely over 200, and ripped like a pro athlete is not being a Clyde, IMHO. I still wouldn't win anything if these guys were forced to race age group, but I just think it is funny that these guys are registering as "clydes." Take a look at me, at guys like Michael Pate...those of us out there huffing and puffing and happy to see the finish line at ANY speed....now, THAT is a clyde!
Amen Brother!
scoobysdad - 2006-06-30 9:27 AM
What about those of us who are "tweeners"? I'm 5'9" with an optimal weight of 190. I can't compete with these wispy little jackrabbits in my AG, but if I put on 10 to race Clydes, well, it wouldn't be pretty. Oh well.
I hear ya..
The thing is.. in my experiences.. my place in the clydes division is not too much higer numerically than it would be in my age group and sometimes it is lower.
I don't really have a HUGE problem with these guys... but it is fun to complain about .. hehe
ws
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: cheesyincident on 2006-06-30 10:56 AM
I am going to have to disagree here. The definition of a clydesdale is over 200 pounds, period. Until any other factor is legally brought into play, anyone over 200 pounds regardless of their fitness level, body fat percentage or experience can be excluded form the clydesdale group. -
RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: waskelton on 2006-06-30 2:15 PM
cheesyincident - 2006-06-30 10:56 AM
I am going to have to disagree here. The definition of a clydesdale is over 200 pounds, period. Until any other factor is legally brought into play, anyone over 200 pounds regardless of their fitness level, body fat percentage or experience can be excluded form the clydesdale group.
So did we get you fired up about something enough to register and post or are have you created a new username to post anonymously??only kidding..
I agree with you.. i'm not trying to run anyone out of competing as a clyde if they quailfy as over 200... I'm not even upset with the guy for entering as a clydesdale.. i just find a little humor in he and I being in the same division and that that division is based on weight.
I actually got to thinking about the clyde's group and wondered if it was in fact created for fit people who had gotten to the peak of their physical conditioning but were just too big to be able to compete against all the tiny folk instead of the firsttimer overweight peeps like myself.... maybe so.. i don't know..
maybe we need a new division called.. "The Pork Fat Division"
you aren't the dude in the photo are you?eek
Will
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: Homer J on 2006-06-30 3:04 PM
maybe we need a new division called.. "The Pork Fat Division"
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: ertman on 2006-06-30 3:30 PM
Check out some of the pictures from the 2005 Clydesdale World Games.
http://www.teamclydesdale.com/miamiphoto2005.htm
These are not out of shape people, or first-timers. They are world class athletes who happen to be over 200 pounds. Ain-Alar Juhanson weighs in at 209 pounds, and he WON Ironman Lanzarote in 2005.
Some races have multiple weight classes, so maybe under 200, 200-220, 220-250, over 250, stuff like that.
Some races, like all of the races in Western Canada, don't have weight classes at all :-(
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: CLLinIA on 2006-06-30 3:30 PM
You didn't get that first place guy's phone number, did you??
KIDDING, sorry, happily married woman here ... to a guy who's 6'8", 215 lbs. He might be thin, but it wouldn't be fair for him to race the little wiry guys. He's carrying around a whole lot more skeleton, and no amount of fitness will ever take away that handicap in an endurance event.
I do see what you mean, though. Doesn't seem like a fair fight.
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: mndiver on 2006-06-30 7:22 PM
Heres my theory. If your over a certain weight it is tougher to run and it is tougher to bike. Anytime you are hauling aroung the extra weight it makes it difficult, weather you are in shape or not. Keep in mind I weigh 250 pounds so I am definetily a clydesdale by any definition. But, if they have the classification and the cut-off is 200 pounds, then that is what it is. That said I would love to see a uber clydesdale division, say 240+. -
RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: Rogillio on 2006-06-30 7:54 PM
The first tri I ever did had the clyde cut-off at 220 lbs. There were only 5 of us....out of a race of about 300. I placed 3rd - the first and only race I've ever placed in! I won a coffee mug!
The next year they had dropped the clyde weight to 210 and they field quadrupled! For the next 4 years I raced this same race and never again got any where near the front.
But it doesn't really matter. I don't race to win. I race to beat the man I was last year not to brag that I beat some one who is smaller and more athletic than I am.
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: DerekL on 2006-06-30 8:46 PM
Nobody's saying that the guy did anything illegal or should have been excluded. He fit the category within the rules at that time.
On the other hand, there is a huge difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. The category was made for a reason, and I'm going to venture a guess and say that it was NOT created for guys like that to compete in.
He has every right to compete as a Clyde if that's what he qualifies as. It's his decision and something he has to live with.
cheesyincident - 2006-06-30 10:56 AM I am going to have to disagree here. The definition of a clydesdale is over 200 pounds, period. Until any other factor is legally brought into play, anyone over 200 pounds regardless of their fitness level, body fat percentage or experience can be excluded form the clydesdale group. -
RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: Biseman on 2006-06-30 9:30 PM
I think you should be allowed to blood dope if you are over 25% body fat...... to even things up
Edited by Biseman 2006-06-30 9:30 PM
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RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: writers2 on 2006-07-01 4:32 AM
And what about us Athenas? Many races go as low as 140. Puhlease...... -
RE: Clydesdale Gripe...
BY: TriCP on 2006-07-01 5:38 AM
I too am a clydesdale, and at a few races have seen some of the "clydes" who placed higher than me and wondered how. I am 6'02 weigh about 210 and am in pretty decent shape and have seen some 5'09 guys smaller than me that I would like to see step on a scale. Conversely the overall winner, Pro Triathlete Greg Remaly who won Memphis in May would Qualify as a Clyde if he raced, so I guess I just have to tri harder.