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Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-13 5:41 AM
IMMT 2014 Race Thread!
Who's in?
Have you raced an ironman before?
Have you raced in Tremblant before?
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: strikyr on 2013-10-13 10:02 AM
I'm in for IMMT. This will be my second Ironman. I did my first Ironman this past year at IMWI and it will be my first time doing IMMT. Hoping to improve on my finishing time this go around. I'm looking forward to doing IMMT. I wasn't planning to do an IM this year but a lot of my friends who I train with signed up so I just couldn't pass up to opportunity to train and race IMMT with them.
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The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-13 1:25 PM
Originally posted by strikyrI'm in for IMMT. This will be my second Ironman. I did my first Ironman this past year at IMWI and it will be my first time doing IMMT. Hoping to improve on my finishing time this go around. I'm looking forward to doing IMMT. I wasn't planning to do an IM this year but a lot of my friends who I train with signed up so I just couldn't pass up to opportunity to train and race IMMT with them.. I've done both IMWI and IMMT. I preferred IMMT by a lot. Great town, roads, setup and community. What will be your approach this time to improve on your finishing time? -
RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: strikyr on 2013-10-13 4:41 PM
Originally posted by Fred D
Originally posted by strikyrI'm in for IMMT. This will be my second Ironman. I did my first Ironman this past year at IMWI and it will be my first time doing IMMT. Hoping to improve on my finishing time this go around. I'm looking forward to doing IMMT. I wasn't planning to do an IM this year but a lot of my friends who I train with signed up so I just couldn't pass up to opportunity to train and race IMMT with them.. I've done both IMWI and IMMT. I preferred IMMT by a lot. Great town, roads, setup and community. What will be your approach this time to improve on your finishing time?
My friends have done IMMT and they've said the same things about it and they really enjoyed doing it. I loved doing IMWI I thought it was great but I am really looking forward to doing iIMMT. For me this year my goal was very modest for IMWI, I just wanted to be able to finish so I raced conservatively in order to do that. I put in a large volume of training to try and ensure that I'd be able to accomplish my goal.
I think when you do IM for the first time there are a lot of unknowns and some uncertainty. When you go through it once you sort of have a much better understanding of what to expect. I am hoping with another year of training I'll improve my swim, bike and run again. This time around I'd like to train more efficiently not just throw a lot of volume at it like I felt I did when I trained for IMWI. I think just knowing what to expect and having another year of training under my belt that will help me improve on my time. Last year I used a combination of the intermediate and competitive IronFit training plans and that worked fine for me. This year I am leaning towards using the Endurance Nation outseason and IM training plans.
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Tony
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die tomorrow
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: LarchmontTri on 2013-10-13 10:29 PM
I'm in. IMMT will be my 2nd IM - my first was IMFL in 2012. I volunteered at IMMT this year, so I got a lay of the land in the village, but didn't have time to drive the run or bike course, so that part will be new for me.
Looking forward to the discussion as well.
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: dmbfan4life20 on 2013-10-14 12:36 PM
I am in for IMMT 2014 and this will be my first Ironman!! I volunteered last year in the Food Tent (met Larchmonttri up there when we volunteered). Really excited about this race because I had a great time volunteering and the weather, town, roads were all perfect. Going to follow the Don Fink Competetive plan so training starts toward the end of January. I just finished my first HIM last week and did better then I expected so a lot of confidence going into IMMT but I know there are things I need to improve upon. Looking forward to hearing as many suggestions from you IM and IMMT alumn as I can.
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: rscheung on 2013-10-15 8:11 AM
I'm in. 2nd IM. First IMMT
Primary goal is to ride Fred off my wheel so he doesn't draft me the whole way like he did in Lake Placid.
Secondary goal is to crack the 10 hour mark. Have to nail that run this time.
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: thedallasceliac on 2013-10-15 9:48 AM
I'm in! IMMT will be my 3rd IM (IMCdA '12 and Redman '13). I'm hoping to go sub 13 and to do so will need to get a lot stronger on the bike & on hills especially.
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-15 1:20 PM
Originally posted by rscheungI'm in. 2nd IM. First IMMTPrimary goal is to ride Fred off my wheel so he doesn't draft me the whole way like he did in Lake Placid.Secondary goal is to crack the 10 hour mark. Have to nail that run this time.. Lol, that there is just funny ;-). Bob in all seriousness I think this course is about 15-20' faster than IMLP overall, so I think you have a great chance of reaching that sub 10 goal.... If you can stay off my wheel! -
RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-15 1:22 PM
For the newer IM folks, I ask the question.... What gearing are you planning on using on your bike? If you give me a very tough idea of your expected bike split I can give some insight into appropriate gearing? -
RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: dmbfan4life20 on 2013-10-15 2:17 PM
Originally posted by Fred D
For the newer IM folks, I ask the question.... What gearing are you planning on using on your bike? If you give me a very tough idea of your expected bike split I can give some insight into appropriate gearing?
I have a stock Speed Concept 7.0 Carbon Triathlon bike that I will be racing in. I just raced a Hilly HIM in it and felt pretty good about the gearing but no idea how it compares to IMMT (folks said HIM course was about 3,000ft elevation but I don't know for sure). On my bike I have a 50/34 compact crank and a 12-28 cassette, its a 10-speed. I would love to hear suggestions about gearing and hill training. What kind of hills can I expect? short and steep or long and gradual? Is there any flat section or is it constant up and down?
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2014 Races: Ocean City Half Marathon, Police Unity Tour,
Challenge AC Aqua/Bike & Ironman Mont Tremblant -
RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: dmbfan4life20 on 2013-10-15 2:17 PM
I am hoping that I can train myself to a 7-7:15 bike split, that is my goal
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-15 2:50 PM
Originally posted by dmbfan4life20Originally posted by Fred D For the newer IM folks, I ask the question.... What gearing are you planning on using on your bike? If you give me a very tough idea of your expected bike split I can give some insight into appropriate gearing?I have a stock Speed Concept 7.0 Carbon Triathlon bike that I will be racing in. I just raced a Hilly HIM in it and felt pretty good about the gearing but no idea how it compares to IMMT (folks said HIM course was about 3,000ft elevation but I don't know for sure). On my bike I have a 50/34 compact crank and a 12-28 cassette, its a 10-speed. I would love to hear suggestions about gearing and hill training. What kind of hills can I expect? short and steep or long and gradual? Is there any flat section or is it constant up and down?Yes, from a barometric altimeter reference it is about 3,000' per loop.
Lots of flatter sections and some rollers. There some steeper climbs near the end of each loop which really take a toll on athletes, but the gearing you are using sounds appropriate. Your only other option is the SRAM APEX with an 11-32 with the compact. It *might* be better for you with the proposed bike time you envision, but the drawback is that you lose a lot of those 'in between' gears with the 11-32 option.
Road quality is EXCELLENT.
Again the climbs in the last 7 miles of the course are the ones to watch for....
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: TankBoy on 2013-10-15 7:39 PM
Fred -thanks for getting this started and flushing me out of the weeds.
I am in as well, 3rd IM, not counting last year at Lake Placid where a freak T1 injury caused me to abort before I ever really even got going. Way too early for goal setting for me - I actually have not yet quite figured out where this race "fits" in next years schedule. At the moment I plan on arriving injury-free and prepared, but I don't think it will be my A-race. After the past three years of IM focused training, I actually would like to work on getting some top-end speed back. So just beginning to work out a plan that will allow me to be competitive in sprint and olympic distance races, but also be prepared for IM. I plan on racing a good bit more next season than I have the past couple.
I am also looking forward to the group discussion over the upcoming year.
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: TankBoy on 2013-10-15 7:44 PM
Originally posted by rscheung I'm in. 2nd IM. First IMMT Primary goal is to ride Fred off my wheel so he doesn't draft me the whole way like he did in Lake Placid. Secondary goal is to crack the 10 hour mark. Have to nail that run this time.Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about Fred, Bob. You know he will only be drafting off folks during the Strava segments....
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-15 7:50 PM
Originally posted by TankBoyOriginally posted by rscheung I'm in. 2nd IM. First IMMT Primary goal is to ride Fred off my wheel so he doesn't draft me the whole way like he did in Lake Placid. Secondary goal is to crack the 10 hour mark. Have to nail that run this time.Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about Fred, Bob. You know he will only be drafting off folks during the Strava segments....
Not today....
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-15 7:54 PM
Originally posted by TankBoyFred -thanks for getting this started and flushing me out of the weeds.
I am in as well, 3rd IM, not counting last year at Lake Placid where a freak T1 injury caused me to abort before I ever really even got going. Way too early for goal setting for me - I actually have not yet quite figured out where this race "fits" in next years schedule. At the moment I plan on arriving injury-free and prepared, but I don't think it will be my A-race. After the past three years of IM focused training, I actually would like to work on getting some top-end speed back. So just beginning to work out a plan that will allow me to be competitive in sprint and olympic distance races, but also be prepared for IM. I plan on racing a good bit more next season than I have the past couple.
I am also looking forward to the group discussion over the upcoming year.
Actually you will probably do better at IMMT making it less of an 'A' race and decreasing the overall pressure.
Enjoy, there will be a good group up there. This will be a good group.
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: TankBoy on 2013-10-15 8:00 PM
Originally posted by strikyrMy friends have done IMMT and they've said the same things about it and they really enjoyed doing it. I loved doing IMWI I thought it was great but I am really looking forward to doing iIMMT. For me this year my goal was very modest for IMWI, I just wanted to be able to finish so I raced conservatively in order to do that. I put in a large volume of training to try and ensure that I'd be able to accomplish my goal. I think when you do IM for the first time there are a lot of unknowns and some uncertainty. When you go through it once you sort of have a much better understanding of what to expect. I am hoping with another year of training I'll improve my swim, bike and run again. This time around I'd like to train more efficiently not just throw a lot of volume at it like I felt I did when I trained for IMWI. I think just knowing what to expect and having another year of training under my belt that will help me improve on my time. Last year I used a combination of the intermediate and competitive IronFit training plans and that worked fine for me. This year I am leaning towards using the Endurance Nation outseason and IM training plans.Well, then you have come to the right place! Fred and I talked about this very thing a while back (and I pretty sure Dream Chaser will chime in here at some point as he is in the same boat). I am going to have to attack this thing a little differently this year also. I really enjoy IM training, but like I said up there ^^^^ I actually think I need to refocus a bit on the faster/harder stuff, so that is really going to be the priority for me. My wife on the other hand really, also really enjoys IM training and racing as well (for the balance that it brings to her life, if you can believe that) and she convinced me into doing IMMT with her. So this will be our 4th year in a row IM training together, and somehow that works for us. We have trained and raced together now for 23 years, so I guess it kinda is what we do.
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: TankBoy on 2013-10-15 8:01 PM
Originally posted by Fred DOriginally posted by TankBoyFred -thanks for getting this started and flushing me out of the weeds.
I am in as well, 3rd IM, not counting last year at Lake Placid where a freak T1 injury caused me to abort before I ever really even got going. Way too early for goal setting for me - I actually have not yet quite figured out where this race "fits" in next years schedule. At the moment I plan on arriving injury-free and prepared, but I don't think it will be my A-race. After the past three years of IM focused training, I actually would like to work on getting some top-end speed back. So just beginning to work out a plan that will allow me to be competitive in sprint and olympic distance races, but also be prepared for IM. I plan on racing a good bit more next season than I have the past couple.
I am also looking forward to the group discussion over the upcoming year.
Actually you will probably do better at IMMT making it less of an 'A' race and decreasing the overall pressure.
Enjoy, there will be a good group up there. This will be a good group.
Agree 100% with all three of those statements!
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RE: Ironman North American Championship Mont-Tremblant : Official Thread
BY: Fred D on 2013-10-16 5:13 AM
Originally posted by thedallasceliacI'm in! IMMT will be my 3rd IM (IMCdA '12 and Redman '13). I'm hoping to go sub 13 and to do so will need to get a lot stronger on the bike & on hills especially.. What will be your strategy to get stronger on the bike, and hills?