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Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: 1stTimeTri on 2011-02-16 8:25 AM
Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.) -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: Big Appa on 2011-02-16 8:26 AM
1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 6:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)Didn’t I see this on FB already?
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Good times come and good times go, I only wish the good times would last a little longer.
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: DanielG on 2011-02-16 8:27 AM
You just did. At least you voted him out, in any case. -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: Pector55 on 2011-02-16 8:38 AM
The natives were a bit restless and disgruntled with the Mayor in Harrisburg on Valentines Day as well.
http://www.wgal.com/news/26856558/detail.html
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: pitt83 on 2011-02-16 8:38 AM
I believe you meant to ask "MAY we impeach you?". Is your improper grammar a reflection of the Wisconsin education system's quality?
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"Violence isn't always evil. What's evil is the infatuation with violence"
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: Pector55 on 2011-02-16 8:52 AM
1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 9:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)
I'm not fully aware of the situation in Wisconsin but here is what I found thus far. Please add to it to clarify or share your opinions. I'm curious about hearing both sides.
1. They would have to pay for half their pension.
- Why is that a problem?
2. They have to pay up to 12.6% of their health care premiums
- Why is that a problem?
3. They can't seek a pay increase above the consumer price index unless approved by a public vote.
- Why is that a problem?
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“Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.” - Brian Gerald O’Driscoll -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: MNGopher on 2011-02-16 8:57 AM
pitt83 - 2011-02-16 8:38 AM I believe you meant to ask "MAY we impeach you?". Is your improper grammar a reflection of the Wisconsin education system's quality?That depends on precisely what the OP's question is. May is correct if the questions is: Is there a constitutional method for impeaching the governor of Wisconsin? However, it would be appropriate to use can if the the question is: Are there enough people who would vote to impeach the governor provided that there is a way to do it?
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: jhouse4 on 2011-02-16 9:03 AM
1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 8:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)Isn't it temporary though?
On the flip side I heard on the radio this morning that 40% of the teachers in Madison called in sick this morning in protest of it.
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: pitt83 on 2011-02-16 9:03 AM
MNGopher - 2011-02-16 9:57 AM
pitt83 - 2011-02-16 8:38 AM I believe you meant to ask "MAY we impeach you?". Is your improper grammar a reflection of the Wisconsin education system's quality?That depends on precisely what the OP's question is. May is correct if the questions is: Is there a constitutional method for impeaching the governor of Wisconsin? However, it would be appropriate to use can if the the question is: Are there enough people who would vote to impeach the governor provided that there is a way to do it?
Still stinging over the Super Bowl. Give me this one point of abuse potential please.
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"I look pretty young, but I'm just back dated" -Pete Townshend, Substitute
"Violence isn't always evil. What's evil is the infatuation with violence"
-Jim Morrison
"Have a Good Time, All the Time"-Viv Savage, Spinal Tap -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: MNGopher on 2011-02-16 9:16 AM
Pector55 - 2011-02-16 8:52 AM1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 9:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)
I'm not fully aware of the situation in Wisconsin but here is what I found thus far. Please add to it to clarify or share your opinions. I'm curious about hearing both sides.
1. They would have to pay for half their pension.
- Why is that a problem?
2. They have to pay up to 12.6% of their health care premiums
- Why is that a problem?
3. They can't seek a pay increase above the consumer price index unless approved by a public vote.
- Why is that a problem?Items 1 & 2 are not really the issue.
Item 3 is an issue as it will overtime remove the ability for public sector jobs to keep pace with private sector jobs for pay. The result will be that the talented will leave public sector for better pay and the public sector will be stuck with the mediocre and below. (This seems less than ideal to me.)
I will add item 4 - The Governor wants to remove all collective bargaining with the exception of pay from the Unions, but limit pay by rule #3. I grant that there are less than 7% of public employees in unions anymore, but this is straight up union busting. (Granted some will think that is good.) The problem is that the people whom this affects are being barred from doing anything about it. This is because the Governor has stated that if the people who work for the people don't agree to be treated this way and protest that the National Guard will be sent into their workplaces to do their jobs. The threat to send armed government troops into their communities to take away the livelihood of the people seems onerous at best and draconian at worst.
I grant that almost every state has financial problems, but for the government to attack the people this way is not fair. It's not fair to make public employees the scape goat and force them alone to make up the deficits. It wouldn't be fair to make only blacks, or hispanics, or car mechanics, or doctors, or lawyers, or hair dressers, or people in Millwaukee pay a tax to balance the budget, so why make only public employees pay to balance the budget. -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: crowny2 on 2011-02-16 9:16 AM
Pector55 - 2011-02-16 8:52 AM1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 9:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)
I'm not fully aware of the situation in Wisconsin but here is what I found thus far. Please add to it to clarify or share your opinions. I'm curious about hearing both sides.
1. They would have to pay for half their pension.
- Why is that a problem?
2. They have to pay up to 12.6% of their health care premiums
- Why is that a problem?
3. They can't seek a pay increase above the consumer price index unless approved by a public vote.
- Why is that a problem?To me, it isn't so much the questions that are offensive, it is his threat to call out the national guard to "keep the peace".
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: TheSchwamm on 2011-02-16 9:31 AM
crowny2 - 2011-02-16 9:16 AM
Pector55 - 2011-02-16 8:52 AM1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 9:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)
I'm not fully aware of the situation in Wisconsin but here is what I found thus far. Please add to it to clarify or share your opinions. I'm curious about hearing both sides.
1. They would have to pay for half their pension.
- Why is that a problem?
2. They have to pay up to 12.6% of their health care premiums
- Why is that a problem?
3. They can't seek a pay increase above the consumer price index unless approved by a public vote.
- Why is that a problem?To me, it isn't so much the questions that are offensive, it is his threat to call out the national guard to "keep the peace".
Yes.
Some tact would be appreciated. Comments such as, "Unless you were in a coma for the last two years, it was clear where I was headed," [Gov. Walker] do nothing but agitate people.
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: 1stTimeTri on 2011-02-16 9:46 AM
Big Appa - 2011-02-16 8:26 AM1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 6:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)Didn’t I see this on FB already?
BT ≠ FB, Cord, and the content was entirely different.
Why do you hate 'Sconnies?
Edited by 1stTimeTri 2011-02-16 9:47 AM
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: 1stTimeTri on 2011-02-16 9:51 AM
pitt83 - 2011-02-16 9:03 AMMNGopher - 2011-02-16 9:57 AMStill stinging over the Super Bowl. Give me this one point of abuse potential please.pitt83 - 2011-02-16 8:38 AM I believe you meant to ask "MAY we impeach you?". Is your improper grammar a reflection of the Wisconsin education system's quality?That depends on precisely what the OP's question is. May is correct if the questions is: Is there a constitutional method for impeaching the governor of Wisconsin? However, it would be appropriate to use can if the the question is: Are there enough people who would vote to impeach the governor provided that there is a way to do it?
How 'bout them Steelers?
And, yes, Mr. Gopher helped me on that one. Besides, I would NEVER use "may" regarding this content since it's politely asking for Gov. D-bag's permission. -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: 1stTimeTri on 2011-02-16 9:54 AM
Pector55 - 2011-02-16 8:52 AM1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 9:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)
I'm not fully aware of the situation in Wisconsin but here is what I found thus far. Please add to it to clarify or share your opinions. I'm curious about hearing both sides.
1. They would have to pay for half their pension.
- Why is that a problem?
2. They have to pay up to 12.6% of their health care premiums
- Why is that a problem?
3. They can't seek a pay increase above the consumer price index unless approved by a public vote.
- Why is that a problem?
You forgot about removing collective bargaining which has been in practice for decades to protect the employees.
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: 1stTimeTri on 2011-02-16 9:57 AM
DanielG - 2011-02-16 8:27 AM You just did. At least you voted him out, in any case.
Wrong d-bag. At least he cared about education. -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: Meulen on 2011-02-16 9:57 AM
Pector55 - 2011-02-16 8:52 AM
1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 9:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)
I'm not fully aware of the situation in Wisconsin but here is what I found thus far. Please add to it to clarify or share your opinions. I'm curious about hearing both sides.
1. They would have to pay for half their pension.
- Why is that a problem?
2. They have to pay up to 12.6% of their health care premiums
- Why is that a problem?
3. They can't seek a pay increase above the consumer price index unless approved by a public vote.
- Why is that a problem?
It's either that or just raise taxes like in Illinois! You pay one way or another. Seems more fair to me that the public sector starts making some concessions that the private sector has already made years ago. These pentions were promises that couldn't be kept, forced onto the government by unions. Hmmmmmmmm, didn't unions kill some other American businesses??? lol Something has to give. States can't just keep writing bonds and raising taxes. Public cuts need to be made. I've talked to several public workers who all agree that their public agencies could function on 50-80% cut backs!!! That's a lot of froth!!! It's time the public sector stops the politically motivating raping of their constituants. This can't go on forever! I sympathize with public employees that were promised these things though. It should have never been promised!! It's not fair, but these things have to be done. We are in financial crisis, decisions will have to made that aren't popular or pleasant. It's just the way it is. -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: Gaarryy on 2011-02-16 10:05 AM
why did he get voted in? was this something that he just sprung up on people or was it something he said he was going to do when running..
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RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: 1stTimeTri on 2011-02-16 10:06 AM
Meulen - 2011-02-16 9:57 AMPector55 - 2011-02-16 8:52 AMIt's either that or just raise taxes like in Illinois! You pay one way or another. Seems more fair to me that the public sector starts making some concessions that the private sector has already made years ago. These pentions were promises that couldn't be kept, forced onto the government by unions. Hmmmmmmmm, didn't unions kill some other American businesses??? lol Something has to give. States can't just keep writing bonds and raising taxes. Public cuts need to be made. I've talked to several public workers who all agree that their public agencies could function on 50-80% cut backs!!! That's a lot of froth!!! It's time the public sector stops the politically motivating raping of their constituants. This can't go on forever! I sympathize with public employees that were promised these things though. It should have never been promised!! It's not fair, but these things have to be done. We are in financial crisis, decisions will have to made that aren't popular or pleasant. It's just the way it is.1stTimeTri - 2011-02-16 9:25 AM Can we impeach you?
Signed,
All of the disgruntled Public Sector employees (teachers, firefighters, etc.)
I'm not fully aware of the situation in Wisconsin but here is what I found thus far. Please add to it to clarify or share your opinions. I'm curious about hearing both sides.
1. They would have to pay for half their pension.
- Why is that a problem?
2. They have to pay up to 12.6% of their health care premiums
- Why is that a problem?
3. They can't seek a pay increase above the consumer price index unless approved by a public vote.
- Why is that a problem?
Then have those agencies that can do away with the excess step forth and assist, instead of broad-stroking everybody. Makes sense to me. -
RE: Dear Gov. D-bag of WI:
BY: 1stTimeTri on 2011-02-16 10:08 AM
Gaarryy - 2011-02-16 10:05 AM why did he get voted in? was this something that he just sprung up on people or was it something he said he was going to do when running..
Just curious.
The latter.