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Is President Carter right?
BY: Guest on 2009-09-16 12:27 AM

So, Jimmy Carter says that Joe Wilson's outburst is indicative of racism, that the comment was part of "a disturbing trend directed at the president that has included demonstrators equating Obama to Nazi leaders" (accdg to MSNBC)

Agree or disagree?  Does criticism of President Obama and his policies have roots in racism?

Edited by ChrisM 2009-09-16 12:28 AM

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RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: bradword on 2009-09-16 12:34 AM

Wow, they're pulling the race card. Didn't see that coming.
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RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Tripolar on 2009-09-16 12:36 AM

*pops some popcorn*

This should be entertaining....

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: bradword on 2009-09-16 12:38 AM

The other dumb thing is, he has already said he made an apology to the President and he accepted. The only people who still seam to care are the late night comedians, and the Democrats in congress who are trying to make a show. Get over it.
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RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: JBrashear on 2009-09-16 6:27 AM



Let's be realistic; if this had happened during Dubya's terms the GOP would be doing precisely what the Dems are doing now. That doesn't make it right or wrong, but both sides would be squeezing every last little drop out of it if it happened to a president from their party.

Is Carter right? For some people, sure. I don't think anyone can adequately quantify how big a percentage that is though.

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Fred D on 2009-09-16 6:29 AM

Has Carter EVER been right???

Truly the worst president since Warren Harding.

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Fred D on 2009-09-16 6:30 AM

Isn't the real question... if you didn't vote for Obama, is it rooted in racism?

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: JBrashear on 2009-09-16 6:37 AM



The Dept of Energy & Dept of Education cabinet positions are on line 2 for you.

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: travljini on 2009-09-16 6:49 AM



Ding, ding, ding.  We have a winner. 

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: travljini on 2009-09-16 6:53 AM



I predicted this during the election cycle, long before he was elected.  As soon as anyone criticized Obama it was "racist."

How quickly people forget who he was elected by and the strong approval rating he enjoyed by, oh, let me see, non African Americans!!!!

Are there racists out there?  Absolutely.
Do these racists disagree with Obama Care?  Probably.

But to make such a sweeping generalization such as "An overwhelming portion of the opposition" (I blv is the direct quote) is because he's African American is irresponsible.

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Fred D on 2009-09-16 6:57 AM



^^^^ excellent post!

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Fred D on 2009-09-16 7:00 AM

Here is the msNBC article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32869276/ns/politics-capitol_hill

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Fred D on 2009-09-16 7:04 AM

The pertinent quote from the above reference:

“I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he is African-American," Carter said.

Thankfully Pres. Carter isn't generalizing about white people...

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Fred D on 2009-09-16 7:05 AM

What would Pres. Carter attribute the intense animosity that was displayed toward former Pres. GWB??? Racism as well?

Edited by PennState 2009-09-16 7:10 AM

RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: merlin2375 on 2009-09-16 7:16 AM

No, he is not correct.
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RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: saling4 on 2009-09-16 7:58 AM

They did say GW lied and no the Repubs did nothing about it.  The Dems did say that our soldiers were dragging women and children out of their houses in the dead of night terrorizing them and the repubs said nothing.  The repubs have seldom stood up when the Dems said something ridiculous and/or insulting.

To OP, No I do not feel this is racist in the least,  but imagine that it plays well in Peoria.

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RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: TriRSquared on 2009-09-16 8:01 AM



Have you seen this latest gem...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/House_guidelines_for_Presidential_putdowns.html

Funny thing is, all of the "banned" terms are ones that Dems used against W.  This is an utter waste of taxpayer money. 

Let's see.  Stark called Bush a liar and said he is killing soldiers for his own amusement.  Can you say hypocrite?

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/hypocrisy-flashback-dem-rep-pete-stark.html

Keep on digging Democrats.  2010 is going to be an eye opener.

Oh, and I'll listen to Jimmy Carter when we actually does something useful for this country.  He needs to shut his pie hole.

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RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: TexasMPGal on 2009-09-16 8:41 AM

Irresponsible is right.  We talk in this country of doing away with the race issues, and yet deep disagreement with the idealogies of a President are equated to racism simply because that President is black? That logic is not only so deeply wrong, it actually creates an environment that doesn't exist and takes us several steps back in disolving the race issues in this country. 

And for those who don't remember, President Bush was booed during joint sessions and he was called a variety of names by, at the time, current members of both the House and the Senate.  There were no apologies for that.  God forbid passionate people exercise free speech, or maybe I should just say, God forbid passionate white people exercise free speech.  Yes, there are decorum rules, and Rep Wilson stepped out of bounds, I'm not advocating that (though it would make C-SPAN more interesting--have you ever seen the British parliament in session!!).  But, I think it's ridiculous that two words "you lie" have been translated into "I hate you because you are black and everyone that agrees with me on my views also hates you because your are black."  People in America, on both sides, have deep feelings about current POLICY issues, and they are making their voices known, good for them.  There are obviously bad apples on BOTH sides, and there always will be.  However, they are not the predominate ones, and simply because someone disagrees with the President, who happens to be black, doesn't make them a racists. Just as I'm sure there are some white people who do dislike Pres Obama just cause he is black, I'm sure there were some black people that disliked Pres Bush or other white presidents simply because they were white.  But by no mean does that equate to a majority of our population.  I'm thoroughly disgusted by all of this and think it's a cheap ploy to take heated eyes off the current healthcare debate and to cause discredit to anyone and everyone that disagrees with the policies and ideals of President Obama.  It is shameful, it is juvenile, and is distracting from the real issues that require debate.

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RE: Is President Carter right?
BY: Marvarnett on 2009-09-16 8:45 AM

I didn't hear about what Pres Carter said, but I did hear this morning that the Black Caucus said the outburst was rooted in racism.  My initial response was, "Are you kidding?!" 

People can choose to 'see' the race card anywhere they want.  Unfortunately, if someone challenges when a black says it's racist that person is called a racist.  It's stupid.  So NO, it wasn't racist, rooted in racism or anything close.

Was it poor form?  Sure.  But I'm ok with that.

To those that are saying the Dem's said all this stuff about Bush...sure they did.  The difference here is that they didn't yell it out during a presidential speech. 
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