An Open Apology

Poser! 

I've never understood why they don't pull the overall winners out of the AG winners at any of the National Championship races, like they do at every other USAT race.  And then at worlds they don't even have an OA category, it's all AG's.  USAT does a fabulous job with those races.....but I don't see why they don't just stay consistent.

Nice race anyway.......keep the jersey. LOL

Excellent mea culpa. Not too many would stand up like that.

Regardless, fantastic race/result.

Great race but I am slightly confused, I think

So the guy who came in 3rd overall is in the 30-34 AG, but since he was 3rd in the overall that left you who I presume was second to move up to first???  Isn't that how most races do it?   

Not in any USAT National Championship race.  If, for instance, you finish first overall, you STILL get the first pace AG as well. 

Not in triathlon.  We've been to the last 2 National Championship races.....no overall podiums have been pulled from the AG. 

That's right.....happened to Jr. last year at Sprint Nationals.  He was 4th overall, and 2nd in his AG......but 2nd overall was in his AG as well....so he got 2nd in AG instead of the AG win he would have gotten if they pulled overalls out..  The same would have happened if the guy in his AG had been first overall.  You get the overall first place medal and the AG first place medal.

yeah- I totally understand.  I did a race on labor day, where the posted sheets indicated that I won my age group.  Turns out, there was another guy in my age group that captured an overall spot- which was taken out of the age group.  So- I guess I really didn't win my age group!  it's a weird thing that I never really will understand.

anyway- I enjoyed your race report.  none of us are pro's.  we're all just out there doing our best.  you done good.  no biggie.

Well....it leads to the confusion that you just dealt with because AG races the rest of the year are not done that way.  It also gets you off the hook for thinking you had won your AG.......you're welcome.

Still a great race.  Nothing any of us wouldn't have done as far as accepting a jersey presented to you and bragging a little about it.  

At least your immediate confession of this misunderstanding will not hurt you 20 years later if you decide to run for President of the United States.  LOL

Nope....you WON your AG.  Any AG race I can think of, except nationals, takes the overall winners out of the AG, so you are the AG winner in the case you described..  The problem with Leego's race is that they did not pull overalls out of AG like age group races normally do.

No need to apologize for the convoluted way they do the awards at nationals.  You still had a great race!

Mark

At the recent ITU worlds, my friend Alison told me that she won the AG women's sprint overall. Then I saw a posting on BT that someone else had won the AG sprint overall. They didn't actually post overall results, so you had to click through each AG and compare your times. I confirmed that Alison did indeed take second. I saw Alison briefly last weekend and congratulated her on her awesome result. I asked her if she had come first overall and she said yes. I don't think she was lying, I think she really thinks she did come first. I didn't have the heart to tell her otherwise.

tl;dr It happens.

No way they can have an overall winner at ITU worlds.  The transition was set up for each AG.....some had a very short transition inside the fences and some had a very long one.  You can scroll through the times all you want, but they will not be accurate through the AG's as far as distance in transition.  Even if she thinks she won, she didn't.  And the other person who thinks she won....she didn't either.   Because of transition the "course" through the AG's is not the same. It was fair and equal within AG's, but not between AG's.

sorry...dp

Great race.  No need to apologize.  I'd be confused too.  All the running and triathlon races I've been in they've pulled the Overall, Masters and Grandmasters out of the AG.  Apparently, they run it different for that race.  Seems like they were a bit confused as to how it works by the way the awards and results were handed out and posted.

Yeah, I hear you, but it's still feels great to get the fastest time.