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2012-01-22 5:55 PM

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Ever since my knee has been bothering me I have thought about purchasing one of those home ultrasound units. Anyone ever try these? I am tempted to purchase one. You never know what can happen during IM training. I had ultrasound treatment from my doc the other day and think it helped some. I've also been using foam roller, ice, elevation, etc... If you have bought one, do you think it helped and if so which one did you buy?


2012-01-22 6:03 PM
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2012-01-22 8:28 PM
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I posted the same question a year or so ago and got many "don't do it" responses! LOL!

2012-01-23 5:34 AM
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Fred, why not? Just curious, as I have considered buying one myself....

2012-01-23 6:47 AM
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2012-01-23 7:08 AM
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Yikes!! Thanks -- good to know!


2012-01-23 11:04 AM
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glad I asked before I bought. thanks
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Fred D - 2012-01-23 6:47 AM
jsnowash - 2012-01-23 6:34 AMFred, why not? Just curious, as I have considered buying one myself....
Because they can actually causes damage if used by untrained people. There is heat energy generated and cavitation damage as well. You can actually liquefy tissues if used to much.I am not an ultrasound tech but have to be knowledgeable about some of the issues with diagnostic ultrasound. Therapeutic ultrasound is more powerful and has danger.I would recommend seeking the aid of a professional with ultrasound therapy.My 2cents.
Really, liquidification? Wouldn't this take 30-45 minutes of continuous energy application, and then I would wonder if the thermal energy would cause issues prior to get to the liquify settings.... Just curious on the scientific proof on the liquify statement as I haven't found that setting in my echo lab.... Maybe my blender.
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Figured I should clarify after posting a smart aleck- comment. I apologize for doing that and should make sure I give a more tempered reply.

My primary intent is to make sure a clear impression of ultrasound is portrayed. I am currently a cardiology fellow with focus on noninvasive imaging, specifically echocardiography and am about to sit for echo boards.  During all my training I happened to work in a research lab describing sonothrombolysis (therapeutic ultrasound) in a stroke model, and have had many dinner conversations with the primary investigator (aka my Dad) on the subject. My sister has added input as a physical therapist who uses ultrasound routinely in the context mentioned above.

 

I am a pretty strong advocate at my hospital for the use of ultrasound in my specialty. I actually agree having competent diagnosis and therapies for my patients, and agree with limiting some therapies that might be riskier. I harp on this with the resident physicians I teach. From the diagnostic ultrasound experience, there have been no cases documented of harm from diagnostic ultrasound in the cardiology lab (Aside from cannulation issues with our invasive probes). Actively thrombolysing clots, where more energy is applied and can cause sheer stress and bleeding complications- some of which are directly caused by mechanical energy from the ultrasound. These are however used in a completely different population, and are different energy levels and pulse patterns than what is used in the physical therapy realm. In general, the physical therapy ultrasounds are not the same as what we use for sonothrombolysis or stone lithotripsy, and are much "safer," with more room for error so to speak. And to correct my statement before, I guess you could technically "liquify" fat cells with therapeutic ultrasound to a certain degree Honestly, I would assume they are pretty safe when used as directed- short periods of time multiple times a week. With that being said, I am always fearful of misdiagnosis, delaying proper treatment for injuries while potentially causing harm with the device. Definitely look for a competent physical therapist/ sports medicine doc, and work with them on making sure your treatments are appropriate. 

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