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2008-06-03 8:54 PM

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Subject: Bike Fit

This is my new ride, Black Ice.  How does my position/fit look?





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2008-06-03 9:01 PM
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I don't know about your fit, but I expect you're about to be told three things:

1.  "Your seat is too high (not really, just poking fun at Slowtwitch.com...)"

2.  "Your seat is too high (no, it really is...)"

3.  "It would be easier to tell if you wore a tighter shirt."



Edited by tjh 2008-06-03 9:01 PM
2008-06-03 9:14 PM
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tjh - 2008-06-03 9:01 PM

I don't know about your fit, but I expect you're about to be told three things:

1.  "Your seat is too high (not really, just poking fun at Slowtwitch.com...)"

2.  "Your seat is too high (no, it really is...)"

3.  "It would be easier to tell if you wore a tighter shirt."

 

Yeah, it does look like it is in that shot.  Here's another and it looks like the crank is in the same position but my leg is not as extended.

 





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2008-06-03 9:36 PM
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You look like I feel on my new B12, i.e. too cramped.  You're way back in your seat (which I think is too high :p) .  I will going shortly for a proper bike fit, I expect to be getting a new, longer stem to correct the problem.

2008-06-03 9:54 PM
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In the first picture it looks like your seat's too high, and you look "compressed". The second picture looks good. The question is: Which one is more accurate of how you ride?

Aside from that it looks good. It would be better if you tilted your pelvis forward. This would flatten out your lower back and allow you to lower and extend yourself on the front end. It would also reduce the risk of lower back problems in the future.

If you want to move to a more aerodynamic position as I described you'll likely need to work on your hamstring flexibility.

One more thing, it looks like you're trying to squeeze the life out of your aerobars. They're already dead. You don't need to "grip" the bars. Think light hands. Less tension is more energy to the pedals, and smoother descents.

My $0.02



Edited by yaqui 2008-06-03 9:55 PM
2008-06-03 11:05 PM
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Much better. Though static shots like that are hard to decipher. At least you're looking up this time. I would say the fit looks pretty good, though it also looks like you're gripping the bars pretty tight (might be that your pads are too far up your arms).


2008-06-04 8:42 AM
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If I were fitting you I'd actually move your seat up a bit ....... looks too low for me.  But it looks like a good start.
2008-06-04 8:45 AM
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Daremo - 2008-06-04 8:42 AM

If I were fitting you I'd actually move your seat up a bit ....... looks too low for me.  But it looks like a good start.

x2. I might also investigate a longer stem with a less severe positive angle. Might help to stretch you out a bit, since you do look a little cramped.
2008-06-04 8:47 AM
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and I thought I had a lot of grey hair  ...
2008-06-04 8:47 AM
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More importantly, how do you like those shoes? I was thinking of getting a pair.
2008-06-04 8:52 AM
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Spend a few bucks on a professional Bike Fit.

From my view I would go with a longer stem as well.....you do look a little cramped.

Just curious...where did you buy this bike ? Most Tri shops offer free fittings if you buy a new bike.

Erik


2008-06-04 8:53 AM
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KenyonTri - 2008-06-04 8:45 AM
Daremo - 2008-06-04 8:42 AM If I were fitting you I'd actually move your seat up a bit ....... looks too low for me.  But it looks like a good start.
x2. I might also investigate a longer stem with a less severe positive angle. Might help to stretch you out a bit, since you do look a little cramped.

My LBS put that stem on there to do just what you say.  I was kinda bummed becuase they swapped it for the stem that came on there that said "Felt".  But I guess fit is more important than 'original equipment'.

 

What is "positive angle"?

I don't feel cramped....actually feels really comfortable.  I should have taken a shot from the front to as I'm curious about the aerobar seperation.  My last bike the bars were pretty close - close enough that my Aerobottle would fit snuggly in between the bars.  But on this bike, my LBS put the bars much futher apart.....maybe 6 or 8 inches apart.  It's feels very comfortable but I'm wondering if I'm not compromising some aerodynamics for the comfort?

~Mike

2008-06-04 8:54 AM
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yaqui - 2008-06-03 10:54 PM

One more thing, it looks like you're trying to squeeze the life out of your aerobars. They're already dead. You don't need to "grip" the bars. Think light hands. Less tension is more energy to the pedals, and smoother descents.



He's not actually moving... light hands at a standstill equal flopping over to the side, right?
2008-06-04 8:56 AM
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chriselam - 2008-06-04 8:47 AM More importantly, how do you like those shoes? I was thinking of getting a pair.

 

Love the shoes!  I got them about a month ago.  My old shoe had a tongue that would turn sideways and would abraid my ankle after about 75 miles.  These are very comfortable!  They are easy on/off too with only one strap and a loop at the back.

2008-06-04 8:57 AM
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A perfectly "flat" stem in relation to the ground would be a "-14" to "-17" degree stem.  What you have would be considered a "high rise" stem.  I would counter to say that while you do have a compact position I would not go so far as to call it cramped.  You could use some minor tweaking to get your arms out more.

You have the Felt post, right?  Are you in the forward slot or the rearward one??

2008-06-04 9:07 AM
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Daremo - 2008-06-04 8:57 AM

A perfectly "flat" stem in relation to the ground would be a "-14" to "-17" degree stem.  What you have would be considered a "high rise" stem.  I would counter to say that while you do have a compact position I would not go so far as to call it cramped.  You could use some minor tweaking to get your arms out more.

You have the Felt post, right?  Are you in the forward slot or the rearward one??

 

I extended the aerobars out as far as they would  go and still keep the pads behind the basebar.  That was the one adjustment I did myself after my first long ride.  My LBS had the pads even close to me.  Right now the pads are almost at my elbows.  Agian, it feel very comfortable.

I noticed that under the seat there is a curved mounting place that is not touching anthing.  I figured that the seat is generic to fit multiple bikes.  But I think I'm in the rearward slot.



2008-06-04 10:06 AM
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This is my build before anything was on.  You see how it has two spots for the saddle on it?  For aggressive geometries you use the forward slot (as it is starting to be set up by me at that time), for more relaxed you use the back.



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2008-06-04 10:10 AM
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Rogillio - 2008-06-04 8:56 AM

chriselam - 2008-06-04 8:47 AM More importantly, how do you like those shoes? I was thinking of getting a pair.

Love the shoes! I got them about a month ago. My old shoe had a tongue that would turn sideways and would abraid my ankle after about 75 miles. These are very comfortable! They are easy on/off too with only one strap and a loop at the back.



What kind of shoes are they, exactly? Looking to pick up some myself and I like the look of those.

Cheers.
2008-06-04 10:30 AM
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Pearl Izumi, not sure which model.
2008-06-04 10:30 AM
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Daremo - 2008-06-04 8:42 AM

If I were fitting you I'd actually move your seat up a bit ....... looks too low for me.  But it looks like a good start.


+1 your seat looks to low
2008-06-04 11:08 AM
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Daremo - 2008-06-04 10:06 AM This is my build before anything was on.  You see how it has two spots for the saddle on it?  For aggressive geometries you use the forward slot (as it is starting to be set up by me at that time), for more relaxed you use the back.

 

Mine is opposite from this. 

BTW, I took all those yellow warning stickers off my bike.  Hope I didn't commit an OSHA felony....



Edited by Rogillio 2008-06-04 11:18 AM


2008-06-04 12:12 PM
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I used info from this site for the following:
(http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/bikefit.html).

Take it for what it's worth, maybe others can pitch in based on the photo below...

Question, do you really ride with your foot flat like that?

1) Your hip angle is too open based on the websites 90 to 95, maybe 100 max.

2) Knee angle based on the site should be 150 to 155 and is off. *I used an educated guess on the hip location.

3) Shoulder to elbow angle is too cramped based on website of ~90.

Not really sure what to say other than maybe the bike is a bit small on the top tube length or the stem is too short Surprised!

 





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2008-06-04 12:38 PM
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Donto - 2008-06-04 12:12 PM

I used info from this site for the following:
(http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/bikefit.html).

Take it for what it's worth, maybe others can pitch in based on the photo below...

Question, do you really ride with your foot flat like that?

1) Your hip angle is too open based on the websites 90 to 95, maybe 100 max.

2) Knee angle based on the site should be 150 to 155 and is off. *I used an educated guess on the hip location.

3) Shoulder to elbow angle is too cramped based on website of ~90.

Not really sure what to say other than maybe the bike is a bit small on the top tube length or the stem is too short Surprised!

 

 

Thanks!  Good analysis.  I don't think the bike is too small....I think I'm too big.  :-)  This was the biggest B12 they make.   I don't think that was a natural posistion of my foot/leg as I was trying to balance and lean against the wall....I should have just put in in the trainer.  Thanks again.  I'll study on this some...

2008-06-04 12:40 PM
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Daremo - 2008-06-04 11:30 AM Pearl Izumi, not sure which model.

PI Tri-Fly, very light and comfortable. I'm wearing the PI Vipers, very similar, but with the BOA lacing system, also very comfy. I tried the Tri Fly model and really liked them; if I needed a new pair I'd buy the Tri Fly, but I don't need them because my wife told me so.

 

2008-06-04 12:45 PM
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I'm thinking if you raised the saddle and moved if forward, and dropped the stem height you'd be close, but would you be comfortable? You said the current set up was comfy, so hard to argue with comfort without having a pro fitting to go alongside it.

As for the comment about a longer stem, what would be the relative stem length on your setup? Looks short to me, with room to get out further over the front. 

 

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