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2008-01-23 3:28 PM

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Subject: HR Zone training & form?

I am following a HR zone based training plan from BT and it calls for Z1 - Z2 runs.  The problem is, when I slow down to the point of keeping my heart rate in those zones, things will start to hurt  -- like my foot and my knees.  When I pick up the pace, those aches and pains go away.  Does that happen with anyone else and, if so, how do you manage to keep your heart rates in the lower zones without injuring your body? 

I haven't really been following the HR training zones that much because when I slow down it hurts!  From the reading I've been doing, it seems like HR training helps you get faster over time and also helps to prevent overtraining injuries by not "going hard" during every workout, but I feel like "easing up" is more harmful to me at this point.

(this is only for running.... I have NO problems at all easing up on the bike / swim training )



2008-01-23 6:11 PM
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My initial thought is that your body may be accustomed to running at a specific intensity/level, i.e above Z2, so much that to do anything else is different and inefficient.

Does your running form change at all when you slow down? This is the only explanation that I can come up with as to why your knees would hurt when running slower. When you slow down, a number of variables can change, such as stride length, etc.

Sometimes I think that slowing down too much makes me twice as inefficient and more prone to fatigue and pain, in the context of a race of course.

Not sure how much you've tried running in Z1 - Z2 yet, but I'd say to just keep on doing it for a few weeks and see if you can get use to it without the pain.
2008-01-23 6:20 PM
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I often feel a little awkward and clunky running slow. The problem is likely your form is going to hell in a hand basket. You really need to keep up your cadence and mechanics as much as possible even while going slow.
2008-01-23 6:50 PM
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I had that trouble too, my knees would hurt going slow. (Especially since I have to go REALLY slow to stay in Z2.) What really helped me was to focus on cadence (I have a metronome). I find if I can keep my cadence up running slow, my knees don't hurt at all. AND, a big plus is that when i do strides, speeding up is not difficult, b/c I already have the leg turnover going.

2008-01-23 6:54 PM
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Subject: RE: HR Zone training & form?

bryancd - 2008-01-23 7:20 PM I often feel a little awkward and clunky running slow. The problem is likely your form is going to hell in a hand basket. You really need to keep up your cadence and mechanics as much as possible even while going slow.

Ditto on what Bryan said.  Take a read through this.

I can run with my wife (9:30-10min/mi) or myself at race pace (7's) without too much of a change to my stride rate. The key is to change the stride length along with body lean such that your are not heal stiking due to too long of a stride, which results in too much vertical motion, i.e. stress.

2008-01-24 8:43 AM
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thanks for the responses and especially the article.. very helpful!!  I'm definitely changing my cadence when I slow up...  I'll have to work on fixing that


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