http://finance.yahoo.com/news/BT-posts-huge-4Q-loss-to-cut-apf-15240771.html?sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode=
oh wait - different BT...
Phew.
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=158915&posts=8&start=1